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Next time a writer fields questions about steroids make sure they know some basic facts.

#1 Real primobolan is very expensive
#2 Primobolan is very often faked
#3 It is _not_ a good starter steroid for many reasons

I don't juice, but even I know the basics of this compound.
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Next time a writer fields questions about steroids make sure they know some basic facts.

#1 Real primobolan is very expensive
#2 Primobolan is very often faked
#3 It is _not_ a good starter steroid for many reasons

I don't juice, but even I know the basics of this compound.

Primobolan orals are, as you point out, expensive. However, if you look at my response, I refered to ampules (Primobolan Depot)- obviously refering to injectables. These are made by a number of manufacturers (Schering, Ttokkyo, etc) in a number of countries (Mexico, Greece, etc), and, depending on local supply and demand, a single 100ml ampule can run between $15-20 USD, and can even average around $10.

That's about as cheap as you're going to get for a steroid, unless you go to Florida where methandrostenolone tabs run around $0.25 cents a piece.

Finally, why dont you post under your real name? Attacking someone from the shadows is a cowardly act.

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Old 06-21-2005, 11:51 AM   #4
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Primobolan orals are, as you point out, expensive. However, if you look at my response, I refered to ampules (Primobolan Depot)- obviously refering to injectables. These are made by a number of manufacturers (Schering, Ttokkyo, etc) in a number of countries (Mexico, Greece, etc), and, depending on local supply and demand, a single 100ml ampule can run between $15-20 USD, and can even average around $10.

That's about as cheap as you're going to get for a steroid, unless you go to Florida where methandrostenolone tabs run around $0.25 cents a piece.

Finally, why dont you post under your real name? Attacking someone from the shadows is a cowardly act.
Call me paranoid, but I don't like to talk about illegal anabolics under a registered username.

Ampules aren't 100ml, those are big jugs. I think you mean 1 ml or 100mg. $17 x 2 = $34 for 200mg of primobolan per week. A 10 week cycle is going to cost upwards of $340 plus ancillaries.

You can get a 10ml vial of test enathate for $50-$60. That will last for a 8-10 cycle at 250mg / week. That's much cheaper than primobolan or just about any other compound.

Primobolan as you stated is a contest prep drug. It's something that's used by advanced bodybuilders to retain muscle while preparing for a show. Most users agree that it isn't a steroid for adding mass (unless it's dosed much higher). That's why it isn't recommeded to be taken by itself for a first cycle.
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Call me paranoid, but I don't like to talk about illegal anabolics under a registered username.

Ampules aren't 100ml, those are big jugs. I think you mean 1 ml or 100mg. $17 x 2 = $34 for 200mg of primobolan per week. A 10 week cycle is going to cost upwards of $340 plus ancillaries.

You can get a 10ml vial of test enathate for $50-$60. That will last for a 8-10 cycle at 250mg / week. That's much cheaper than primobolan or just about any other compound.

Primobolan as you stated is a contest prep drug. It's something that's used by advanced bodybuilders to retain muscle while preparing for a show. Most users agree that it isn't a steroid for adding mass (unless it's dosed much higher). That's why it isn't recommeded to be taken by itself for a first cycle.
Yes, I can totally understand your desire to not speak of steroids under a registered, and traceable, username. For a minute there (until your response to my post) I thought you were some random hack on the message boards.

You're right that I meant to type MG instead of ML - my bad. When i stated that Primobolan is fairly cheap, I knew the price but didnt think that $340 for 10 weeks was that much money - but for some people it could be. I was comparing the cost to something like HGH which, as you know, is still ASTRONOMICALLY expensive and unless I owned a small bank in some Latin American country, I wouldnt be buying it - I couldnt afford the cost.

And you're right, Test can be cheaper, but at the same time, Gyno can result quite easily, requiring the use of other drugs to compensate, whereas with Primo, conversion to estrogen does not happen. And, even though, as I and as you point out, it's used as a pre-contest drug, the fact that it doesnt convert to estrogen makes it very easy to use for first-time users who dont have a lot of knowledge. And, while its muscle-building effects may not be equal to other drugs, it's fairly easy to use as I just mentioned, so that's the basis of my recommendation as a beginners steroid. They're not going to get massive results, but they wont get scary side-effects either.
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Yes, I can totally understand your desire to not speak of steroids under a registered, and traceable, username. For a minute there (until your response to my post) I thought you were some random hack on the message boards.

You're right that I meant to type MG instead of ML - my bad. When i stated that Primobolan is fairly cheap, I knew the price but didnt think that $340 for 10 weeks was that much money - but for some people it could be. I was comparing the cost to something like HGH which, as you know, is still ASTRONOMICALLY expensive and unless I owned a small bank in some Latin American country, I wouldnt be buying it - I couldnt afford the cost.

And you're right, Test can be cheaper, but at the same time, Gyno can result quite easily, requiring the use of other drugs to compensate, whereas with Primo, conversion to estrogen does not happen. And, even though, as I and as you point out, it's used as a pre-contest drug, the fact that it doesnt convert to estrogen makes it very easy to use for first-time users who dont have a lot of knowledge. And, while its muscle-building effects may not be equal to other drugs, it's fairly easy to use as I just mentioned, so that's the basis of my recommendation as a beginners steroid. They're not going to get massive results, but they wont get scary side-effects either.
I think we're on the same page. Didn't mean to sound so aggressive in my first post as I'm not a morning person.

Have you come across anything regarding an Equipose only cycle for novices?
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Have you come across anything regarding an Equipose only cycle for novices?
I've heard of women useing Boldenone in small doses on its own, but, generally, i recommend that people use Arimidex if they get into larger dosages...it CAN convert into estrogen, but not as bad as some other drugs...and besides, unless you get it from the right place, you can get scammed since there are a lot of counterfeits out there in my experience (I've had people try to sell me fakes of this drug...)
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