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Old 04-14-2005, 07:04 PM   #1
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Daniel Gastelu - Codex: Our Supplements Are Safe For Now!

As usual there is confusion surrounding the set of international standards brewing in Europe, the confusion can be referred to as the Codex. The following will provide you with some quick facts...

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Old 04-15-2005, 05:06 PM   #3
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I will make no comment on the article, other than to say that OUR FREEDOMS ARE IN JEOPARDY! If you don't believe me, come and look at the link:

http://www.consumerhealth.org/articl...19990303190257

Form your own views based on the truth. Here is a sample...

1. No dietary supplement can be sold for preventive (prophylactic) or therapeutic use;
2. No dietary supplement sold as a food can exceed potency (dosage) levels set by the commission. Dietary supplements of higher potency will be sold as drugs and sold by the pharmaceutical or phytopharmaceutical companies. Supplements without an RDA (e.g. Coenzyme Q10) would be illegal to sell because they would all become drugs;
3. Codex regulations for dietary supplements would become binding (the GATT escape clause would be eliminated);
4. All new dietary supplements would be banned unless they go through extensive Codex testing and approval.

Thats from the german version which is law and is the standard to be adopted by all countries around the world...

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Old 07-07-2005, 06:07 PM   #4
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Dear Readers,

As discussed in the article, the CODEX does not regulate how dietary supplements are sold in the U.S.A., and will not undo the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act, unless our Government passes specific legislation to do so.

As a word of wisdom; Confucius says, if you believe everything you read in the book, don’t read the book. In other words, there is a tremendous amount of misinformation out there, especially on unofficial websites like the one Clayton provided a link to.

If you are concerned about future possibilities regarding dietary supplement regulations in the U.S.A., write your Congressman and Senator and the President to let them know that you support the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act, and not to change these regulations.

Also, Canada has its own regulations that already strictly regulate vitamin and mineral supplement products as drugs needing approvals before being sold. They also have a Natural Health Product category, which allows for approved dietary supplements to be used to treat diseases. Products that fall in to the Canadian foods category don't need special approvals, they just need to comply with the food regulations.

Thanks for the input and best regards.

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Old 07-07-2005, 08:52 PM   #5
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As a person who lives and works in Canada, I can tell you that Canadian Supplements are now being regulated in a similar way to the Codex. The claim that the Codex regulations are no threat to North America is simply unfounded and unfactual. The large pharmaceutical lobby will, over time, see to it that gradual changes occur and that our rights are taken away under the guise of "protecting the public interest."

Again, I encourage all persons who value the freedom to use Dietary supplements to become aware to this growing threat and to do all that you can through the political proccess to lobby against changing the existing laws.

I take issue with the claim that the website I provided is false; It is not, and an informed reader would be more responsible in presenting the facts.

Everyone: research this issue for yourselves and become aware. Our rights are protected by informed individuals who take a stand.

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Old 07-07-2005, 11:42 PM   #6
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Clayton is right

My interpretation of readings on the subject seems to show that the CODEX is a tool for wresting control of supplements from individuals for the benefit of larger entities.

When I first started reading on this I felt the same way as Daniel Gastelu does, but further reading has led me to believe that a strong dislike of the CODEX is not at all a sign of paranoia.
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Old 07-29-2005, 10:20 PM   #8
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Clayton Please Stop Confusing Facts

Clayton,

Canada for decades has very strict rules regulating dietary supplement type products. I know, I have made and sold products in Canada and deal with the regulators and laws, as well in the USA, Europe and other countries.

Again, the Codex and European directive on nutritional supplements do not apply to how supplements are sold and regulated in the USA, this is a fact.

Read the regulations for yourself, and stop relying on nonsense secondary literature articles put up by activist groups meant to confuse people in to donating money, and lead you in to passing along bad information to others.

Yes, I agree that there is always concern in the USA about stricter regulations for supplements, as our industry and citizens have been fighting stricter regulations for decades. In fact, before DSHEA, in the USA vitamins and minerals were going to be regulated as over the counter drugs, like they are in Canada, however, they are not due to industry members and USA citizens opposing this.

So keep up the activities to keep supplements less regulated and more available, but keep the facts straight in the process to keep focused on taking the most effective actions; like opposing the DSAA, which is an new bill congress introduced in June 2005, that can have a real negative impact on the way supplements are sold in the USA: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/gastelu16.htm


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