Curtis Schultz - Tunnel Vision and Myths

travis · 07-18-2002, 09:12 PM

Recently, I contacted a fellow writer here at Bodybuilding.com just to express my interest in their comments made after reviewing an article written by another fellow Bodybuilding.com writer.
I know this sounds like going around the carrousel but I really hope someone listens and gets educated rather then focus on their TUNNEL VISION and the Myths we've all been taught over the years.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/schultz15.htm

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Pboy · 07-20-2002, 12:17 AM

The quotations from Big Red that you provided in the article failed to convince me of your charge against him (read: tunnel vision). I, too, did not care for the review of the McLane article. However, for a different reason: Red insulted the kid in a very immature tirade not ulike what you (Schultz) did in this article--save the name-calling. As you are such a credentialed "expert", I would have hoped for more from you than squabbling with a nineteen year old kid about who's right, ala "my dad is stronger than your dad." You claim to be a professional. Perhaps you should conduct yourself as one.
This is just an aside, but it's a real pet peeve of mine. The only one I have, in fact, so I allow myself to indulge in it. I appreciate good irony as much (more?) than anyone. So when someone writes an article replete with misspelled words, run-on sentences, and misused homonyms, and then has the audacity to admonish the reader (in this case Red) to "get educated", I cannot refrain from illuminating it. Feel free to contact me if you would like help with your grammar or tips on proofreading. I have taught high school students who went on to become doctors and lawyers and.... You get the point.

brooklyn mike · 07-20-2002, 05:19 PM

i think it is impossible to get a good work out with out getting soar. mu muscles get soar every day following a hard work out.

07-20-2002, 08:21 PM

LOL, you're such a jackass, why don't you go live in a tunnel? YOu go off badmouthing some guy talking about overtraining and you have no clue what the hell you are talking about.

ok, now in case you don't know this... when you lift weights (you can curl them, press them, etc.) you are using your muscles to move them. If you put enough stress on the muscles, by lifting a weight that is fairly heavy for you, you break down the muscle, a little bit. While you rest, your muscle rebuilds. What if you don't rest? YOu just wait 15 minutes, then lift again, the once more that day... then do the same 3 workouts tomorrow, and how about everyday. Don't you think the body will have had enough? How can it repare all of that damaged muscle if you just keep on lifting. It can't!

So, then what's going on is you are lifting more often than your body has time to recover, so you can get sick, or your muscles may become weaker, etc. That is called overtraining.

OH, and those russians don't train to absolute failure... they train their couple lifts often. Lets say a russian performs a set of clean and jerks... once his form is starting to break down, he will take a rest. This type of training is not constantly overloading the muscles, so they can train often.

Hey, but, you know what? I'm just a kid too... and since you think kids are so dumb, then you'll probably just reply with another one of your smart comments like "hey, how about you little jerk, why don't you learn something by reading my bull****, cause I know everything, cause I've got my own articles on the bodybuilding.com website and you don't."

so whatever, you can be right if you want, I don't care, but why don't you keep your mouth shut and save us "stupid kids" from getting any more dumb **** in our minds from *******s like you.

-map

**str8flexed** · 07-20-2002, 09:16 PM

let me get this straight...your defending mclane. THE BIGGEST IDIOT ON BODYBUILDING.COM!

dez/null · 07-21-2002, 01:07 AM

personally i think theres a big gap that hes missing in all this jibba jabba.. I will first start with the russians

First off Steriods...I know I know THIS WONT ALLOW THEM TO TRAIN TWICE A DAY blah blah blah CRAP!!....actually russians did use steriods but thats half the story. they also did a practice called blood dopeing in witch they draw blood let there body rebuild the blood then put the same blood back into there system. This allowed there muscles to not only rebuild fast but also increased there cardiovascular system as well. The russians also did the art of oxygen dopeing in witch they take there atheletes into the mountains (russian mountains as well) and worked out there. What does this mean? Well in the mountains air is thinner and its much harder to breath in this enviroment.
This also creates stress on the lungs makeing the chest work harder as well.

About training twice a day...Ever herd of adaption? A human can workout twice a day. but for a reason...as a wrestler my body will go under stress. after this stress there is a recovery window of 20 mins useally to rest in that time is all it takes to recover from a wrestling match...how long does it take to recover from a intence session. then do it all over again. THINK about it these guys with there steriods and hyper oxygenated blood there all pros! this is what they do! they probley train 25% of there time up in the mountains to increase blood oxygen levels. And another thing about football...okie think of this way you go in and slam a guy then take a break..Hike! you go in and slam another guy...its a highly anerobic sport. whats this have to do with powerlifting?
well lets change the sounds ....1 2 3 LIFT!!! (the athelete lifts the weight stands up walks off...not vary hard now huhh?
its all the same with anerobic sports and recovery is a form of training...

Mr Shulz I repect you as a person and as a coach and im no rocket scientist but claiming tunnel vision when you have a case of it yourself...

Mutant · 07-21-2002, 06:31 AM

Wow! So many angry people. So, many people that assume I'm attacking this person. So, many ASSUMING I have a better then thou attitude. Read again, I did put myslef down and did say I used to feel the same whay as many of do. I am trying to help and educate. But, I guess, I should have figured this would happen. I am sorry for trying to help nayone out there. I guess this type of article writing is for thoser who read between the lines and can vent their anger online. Again, Wow!

Oh, and for the individual that commented on my BAD grammer and writing, I'm so sorry for the bad english. I did score fairly low on the SAT in that area and only got a B in college English. Besides an Editor for a magazine upon purchasing an article for his magazine once told me, "it's not my job to write perfect it's his job to do the proofread. So, I'm sorry teach. How much do you charge for profreading?

So, I guess i'm going to have to say good luck to you all and I'm so sorry you all need to be so anger and feel so attacked. Take care of yourselves and try to give something back when you can.

**str8flexed** · 07-21-2002, 07:20 AM

I've been giving back for a year now.

mikefromms · 03-31-2006, 12:32 PM

Wow, these opinions are as opposite as the Democrats and Republicans! I can't believe anyone, especially a guy around 40 y/o stating there is no such thing as overtraining. The older I get the more I realize that overtraining exists. Yes, overtraining is reached at different training volumes, frequencies for different people. I'm convinced that age + level of intensity + amount of rest + amount of training frequency + reasonable diet and supplementation (or lack thereof) = the point at which overtraining may occur. Also, even football players don't train two a days all year around. They may do it for awhile but not indefinately. If I'm well rested and have taken a break from training, I can start back and work a different bodypart every day (each bodypart once a week) but not for long. I can do this maybe 3 weeks and I'm dead. I have to cut back for recovery. There is something to system exhaustion. That's the primary reason why few people should try to train hard every day, even if it is different bodyparts. As you get older, this will become even more apparent--especially if you hold a job, too. I wish I could get away with training with weights every day. When I was using ecdysterone it helped me increase frequency. But the jury is really still out on after effects. I do know that weight management has become more difficult since stopping this supplement. M.I.T really did a number on me after the cycle summer before last. I even did post cycle supplementation.

Be very careful with what you put in your bodies, young guys, even if it says it is "legal." Your money becomes their money but it's your body. Your body is really not the key interest of supplement companies, but it should be one of your primary interest. Things have a way of coming back to bite you in the butt. Mind your form and don't do stupid things like straight-legged deadlifts standing on a block. Protect your back even if you feel like you are as strong as King Kong and you could lift two 200 lb fat ladies off the ground in each hand. One day, all at once, you will ask yourself, what went wrong? Why won't my back get better? Why can't I bend over? Why am I avoiding bent over rows (one of my favorite back exercises?

No one will convince me there is no such thing as overtraining. Overtraining can bring your gains and training to a halt and cause injuries that may not go away. Your body will have to last you all of your life. Don't cripple it just because it doesn't hurt now. Some things show up later in life.

Mikefromms--a young mind in an older body.