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Old 04-05-2005, 04:38 PM   #1
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Old 04-06-2005, 08:50 AM   #2
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Post What about Crohn's and IBD?

This is a useful article, but too brief. Please expand it to include the common (and severe) ailments of Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Crohn's Disease.

I am a sufferer of Crohn's and a beginner weight trainer. I've had Crohn's for 8 years. I've been weight training for 3 years. I have had to work closely with my Gastrointerologist and my Dietician to address the particular needs of my body as influenced and limited by Crohn's Disease.

Below are some tips I've picked up in my own research and experience in having Crohn's Disease and in researching IBD:

1. Avoid fiberous foods. Avoid raw or steamed veggies. Broccoli and cabbage are especially troublesome.

2. Eat many small meals during the day instead of a few large ones. It's good for bodybuilding, it's good for these GI conditions.

3. Avoid milk products. Get your nutrients and calcium with soy products and fortified foods like OJ. Yogurt is good also.

4. Pay VERY CLOSE ATTENTION to your body. You will tire faster than others. Physical stress (like weight training) and emotional stress can trigger flare-ups. Give yourself lots of rest if you feel tired.

5. You will lose weight much faster than those people without these conditions. You will gain weight much slower. Your diet must be adjusted accordingly.

6. Crohn's Disease causes "protein permeability" of the small intestine. You must eat more protein than a healthy person as a result of this.

7. Avoid whole grains if you are having symptoms of the diseases. During flare-ups you need the easiest-to-digest foods you can find. So white starches are best for your body.

8. Avoid caffeine and alcohol. Even tea can cause problems. Herbals teas are best.

9. Be careful if you go on a low-carb diet or any weight loss diet. Your body needs more food than a healthy body because your GI tract has a difficult time absorbing nutrients. You will need to take in more carbs (in general, just more calories overall) during a normal day than a healthy person needs.

10. Personally, I've found Omega-3 fish oil pills to be surprisingly helpful in addressing my Crohn's symptoms. I take two pills about 30 min before each of my larger meals and two pills whenever I feel symptoms. My GI doc and my dietician both approved.

11. Research your disease! You will know more than your doctors about what foods to eat and what triggers your flare-ups if you pay attention to your body and READ READ READ about the diseases. Try starting here for Crohn's: http://www.crohns.net/Miva/education...0Disease.shtml

I found the website to be very helpful (they sell stuff, but the disease reports are still valuable). Other GI disorders are here also: http://www.crohns.net/

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Old 04-06-2005, 06:27 PM   #3
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This is a useful article, but too brief. Please expand it to include the common (and severe) ailments of Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Crohn's Disease.

I am a sufferer of Crohn's and a beginner weight trainer. I've had Crohn's for 8 years. I've been weight training for 3 years. I have had to work closely with my Gastrointerologist and my Dietician to address the particular needs of my body as influenced and limited by Crohn's Disease.

Below are some tips I've picked up in my own research and experience in having Crohn's Disease and in researching IBD:

1. Avoid fiberous foods. Avoid raw or steamed veggies. Broccoli and cabbage are especially troublesome.

2. Eat many small meals during the day instead of a few large ones. It's good for bodybuilding, it's good for these GI conditions.

3. Avoid milk products. Get your nutrients and calcium with soy products and fortified foods like OJ. Yogurt is good also.

4. Pay VERY CLOSE ATTENTION to your body. You will tire faster than others. Physical stress (like weight training) and emotional stress can trigger flare-ups. Give yourself lots of rest if you feel tired.

5. You will lose weight much faster than those people without these conditions. You will gain weight much slower. Your diet must be adjusted accordingly.

6. Crohn's Disease causes "protein permeability" of the small intestine. You must eat more protein than a healthy person as a result of this.

7. Avoid whole grains if you are having symptoms of the diseases. During flare-ups you need the easiest-to-digest foods you can find. So white starches are best for your body.

8. Avoid caffeine and alcohol. Even tea can cause problems. Herbals teas are best.

9. Be careful if you go on a low-carb diet or any weight loss diet. Your body needs more food than a healthy body because your GI tract has a difficult time absorbing nutrients. You will need to take in more carbs (in general, just more calories overall) during a normal day than a healthy person needs.

10. Personally, I've found Omega-3 fish oil pills to be surprisingly helpful in addressing my Crohn's symptoms. I take two pills about 30 min before each of my larger meals and two pills whenever I feel symptoms. My GI doc and my dietician both approved.

11. Research your disease! You will know more than your doctors about what foods to eat and what triggers your flare-ups if you pay attention to your body and READ READ READ about the diseases. Try starting here for Crohn's: http://www.crohns.net/Miva/education...0Disease.shtml

I found the website to be very helpful (they sell stuff, but the disease reports are still valuable). Other GI disorders are here also: http://www.crohns.net/

--Louie

for the sake of simplicity and readability I made it short as far as your points

1) yes you should consume low fiber during flair ups; but during times when you are not inflammed you should probably consume a normal fiber intake...
2) small meals are a great move
3)yes, as with any GI disorder, lactose should be one of the first things to go
4)yup
5) yup
6)yes this is true, but be careful that you do not have allergies to certain proteins or you could have an even worse reaction
7)yes this goes along with low fiber during flair ups
8)yup
9)agreed, probably would want to keep carbs a bit higher and reduce calories by lowering mostly from fat
10) yup, should have included this in the article. EPA & DHA (omega 3's) are very good anti-inflammatories
11) knowledge is power!

Thank you for your critique & input Louie!
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Old 04-07-2005, 06:10 AM   #4
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Excellent article. As an IBS sufferer, what I can tell you about it is that it is highly unknown as to the cause. It is a general diagnosis that lumps symptoms together. Potential caues are diet, stress, excessive parasympathetic stimulation, decreased sympathetic stimulation, inflammation, immune responses...I hope you see that there are lots of potential underlying problems. The best thing to do is find out what triggers your symptoms and modify your behavior. If you think its food, start a food diary keeping track of what you eat and when your symptoms appear. Once that is known, it is pretty easy to modify the trigger. For me, I found out that one trigger was a long chain amino acid supplement (liquid) that was suspended in a highly acidic citric acid solution. Basically the acid in the product plus the high long chain amino acid levels (which signal to the body to produce more stomach acid) just put me over the edge and caused my problems. If you are having problems, go to the doctor. You may think it is just "IBS" but colon cancer also can have all of the same symptoms. The best advice is go to the doctor and discuss what is going on. Better safe than sorry
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Excellent article. As an IBS sufferer, what I can tell you about it is that it is highly unknown as to the cause. It is a general diagnosis that lumps symptoms together. Potential caues are diet, stress, excessive parasympathetic stimulation, decreased sympathetic stimulation, inflammation, immune responses...I hope you see that there are lots of potential underlying problems. The best thing to do is find out what triggers your symptoms and modify your behavior. If you think its food, start a food diary keeping track of what you eat and when your symptoms appear. Once that is known, it is pretty easy to modify the trigger. For me, I found out that one trigger was a long chain amino acid supplement (liquid) that was suspended in a highly acidic citric acid solution. Basically the acid in the product plus the high long chain amino acid levels (which signal to the body to produce more stomach acid) just put me over the edge and caused my problems. If you are having problems, go to the doctor. You may think it is just "IBS" but colon cancer also can have all of the same symptoms. The best advice is go to the doctor and discuss what is going on. Better safe than sorry

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Creatine back talk

Good article,

I usually have a lot of problems with creatine. Should you take creatine with your post workout food meal or liquid?


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Good article,

I usually have a lot of problems with creatine. Should you take creatine with your post workout food meal or liquid?


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hmm, several people have this complaint. Have you been loading creatine? If not, what is your daily dose?

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Creatine problems stem from the fact that is it crystalline in structure. Simpply put, the larger the crystals, the harder it is to be absorbed across the intestine. Not being absorbed causes the GI situtations. That used to be the case when creatine first became a popular supplement several years ago. With todays production techniques, this problem is pretty much gone, the crystals are extremely small and able to pass through the GI. Look for products that say something along the lines of microcrystalline. It should be powdery, like powdered suger and not granular like regular sugar. The finer it is, the less GI problems you should have.
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