Support Arnold And Fight The Media's Lies!

**admin** · 02-25-2005, 02:33 PM

Are you tired of the media putting down bodybuilding and putting down Arnold? Voice your opinion by filling out our quick petition:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/supportarnold.htm

The latest attack by the mainstream media regards Arnold's participation in the Arnold Classic expo and competition. Arnold has stood by bodybuilding regardless of the attacks. We should stand by him and show our support.

We appreciate your help!

Thanks!
Ryan DeLuca
CEO, Bodybuilding.com

aikurushii · 02-25-2005, 02:40 PM

done done

shastaniel · 02-25-2005, 02:52 PM

I saw the piece on SportsCenter last night that the article seems to refer to. The whole tone of the clip was negative towards BBing. Certainly not objective, as they didn't (I don't recall?) interview many current pro's. They did interview Franco C. and Joe Weider, but the whole story had little "other side's story". It felt lopsided, nor did it suggest that steriods, LIKE ANY OTHER DRUG, LEGAL OR NOT, can hurt a user if ABUSED. This is why the gen. public doesn't understand bodybuilding -- crap media exposure like this leads uninformed people to believe that taking a single enhancement pill will give us all kidney failure.

Overall it felt dirty to me, because this segment on ESPN had NOTHING to do with the state of bodybuilding today, but trying to find a scapegoat they can blame for making kids/pro athletes want to cheat and use drugs. I find it hipocrytical that ESPN exploits the image of pro athletes, some who are publicly known to abuse hard drugs, beat their wives, involved in crime (choose any) in a positive manner, and yet a sport like BBing (which teaches young people about strict discipline, proper eating and overcoming goals/challenges) gets the bad rap. Just doesn't make sense. But that's politics...

Andrew69 · 02-25-2005, 02:53 PM

done!

ncardw · 02-25-2005, 02:56 PM

Just sent mine. I missed the story any one no where I can read the story?

plo44 · 02-25-2005, 03:33 PM

First of all, I started to lose respect for the guy when he (aka Joe W.) robbed Mentzer of the 1980 Olympia. The contest should not have even been close, Mentzer blew him away! Second of all, in today's society, how can you have a Gov., with steroids having such a negative impact, support a contest (the classic) and Flex mags., that are rewarding massive drug abusers? Don't get me wrong, I love the sport of bodybuilding, but what makes me so mad is when these idiots try and insult my intelligence. Like Franco on the special, "Arnold may have used them, but did not do so when he competed." Come On! Then when Coleman is interviewed a few years back on Leno and is asked how he got so big he replies, "protein and creatine." I would have a lot more respect for these guys if they did not try and lie and just told the truth.

plo44 · 02-25-2005, 03:35 PM

I saw the same report on ESPN and would like to know what lies you are talking about? I did not hear anything that wasn't already common knowledge.

Majors · 02-25-2005, 03:45 PM

dude roids are a CLASS 3 substand which means your ass will go to pound me in the ass prison if you are caught with them.....why would anyone these days admit to using them....cause they can't....if they did that is more than enough probable cause to get the feds all over you ass..everyone knows that steroids are in every sport, it is just common knowledge and in fact the media has blown there negative side effects way out of proportion...like the piece on ESPN bout the kid killing himself..what they dont tell you is that none of these kids did their research before hand and took ungodly amounts of roids..and it is this careless journalizm that produced the new steroid bann that included almost every prehormone under the sun...and guess what it was this same type of journalize that got them banned in 1990. so how it is "insulting" your intellegence when these bodybuilders and others are not talking about taking illegal substance...it is like asking a crack head why he is high he sure as hell is not gonna tell you it is because of crack

Antoine · 02-25-2005, 03:49 PM

the codex, and now this? I signed it!

irocktheyellow · 02-25-2005, 03:54 PM

Did it! I was pissed at the ESPN thing. Give Arnold his credit he deserves dammit!

OogieCarbuckle · 02-25-2005, 04:48 PM

First a few things before I post:
1. I'm a TV anchor/reporter at an ABC affiliate.
2. I am a bodybuilding fan.

OK. ESPN did a terrible job as do 99.9% of the pieces on steroids and bodybuilding.

As you may have seen a few weeks back, I was looking for someone one on here to talk with about steroids and ended up interviewing a leading bbing writer/bber. It went very well, because he was a fantastic interview.

The problem with these stories is just what everyone has been voicing on here: no one is going to admit they use roids on camera. And if they do, I don't know if that's the type of guy you want representing the steroid using bbing world.

Arnold is a great champion - he deserves all the credit in the world for that. But at the same time, just like so many politicians, he turns his head to the abuse going on in the platform he supports. Pro bbing is in a very unhealthy state - the abuse of steroids, diuretics, snythol, etc... needs to be addressed. But at the same point, the big word is ABUSE. Steroids don't kill -ABUSE kills. Lack of information kills.

Now you can argue that fans want monsters. They want to see the Colemans, Ruhls, and others. That's a fine argument but it doesn't take away from the fact that it's unhealthy and dangerous what these guys are doing to themselves.

Look at Tom Prince. He played the game and lost. He's probably one of the smartest guys in the bbing world but to make it, you have to play the game.
Have you ever seen these guys in person? They are out of breath and sweating from standing up. Scary.

Anytime something illegal is involved, it's very hard to get clear interviews from a reliable source on the real problem at hand. But, the other problem is the media doesn't learn about their subject.

Reporters have to be mini experts on a daily basis. The problem with this is you get lazy journalists who don't do their homework and **** the bed because they don't have their facts.

I bet if you ask the reporter who did the ESPN piece what the most abused substance in bbing, he would say steroids - easy answer for him/her. But in reality, it's diurectics. Guys have gone into comas, rushed to the hospital, almost died. Flex, Chic, and others have some scary stories of misuse of diurectics to dial in.

swoody · 02-25-2005, 04:49 PM

ditto. I am sick to death of all this media hyped bull**** about bodybuilding, roids and Arnold's involvement back in the day. WHO THE HELL CARES? Crack, LSD, ecstacy, etc. are drugs that the media should REALLY be paying attention to... the only reason why it ever got this far with all the media hype is all of these damn kids (morons) on the boards using prohormones and steroids at about 16. Thanks, guys!! Thanks for being the bait for the media to target bodybuilding. It has been said before, but I will say it again... steroids are FINE... IF used within dose regulations and NOT by underaged retarts who don't do their homework. Alcohol can f@#k you up too if used in exess, but I don't see the media targeting that one. Guess it wouldn't make for a good story...

will-work4ANDRO · 02-25-2005, 05:07 PM

raping the bodybuilding community once again.

SDMuscleBuddy · 02-25-2005, 06:49 PM

Here is the message I sent through bb.com:

Arnold Schwarzenegger may indeed have done more than any single person in history to advocate achieving optimum health by following the health promoting bodybuilding lifestyle.

But it is unfortunate that he continues to promote and support events in which all of the competitors have achieved professional status by endorsing products which are not only useless but are often never actually used by the competitors. Further, these competitors have achieved their extreme physical development not through any healthy regimen, but through excessive use of multiple dangerous and illegal drugs. These so-called athletes by example have caused many young aspiring athletes to endanger their health, and in many cases death has occurred when a novice athlete attempted to follow in the footsteps of their "heroes".

I consider Arnold a hypocrite and am not affiliated with Arnold in any way.

Nullifidian · 02-25-2005, 08:16 PM

I have issues with signing it simply because it talks about Arnold's anti-drug stance. I can't sign anything anti-drug because I'm a Libertarian. I don't think it should be the government's right to say what we do with our own bodies. But that is only my opinion, I don't expect anyone else to agree.

In any case, any letter that talks about being anti-drug I just can't bring myself to sign without feeling like a complete hipocrite.

Majors · 02-25-2005, 09:28 PM

yep alot of you guys have hit the nail on the head....misseducation is the primary reason that "steroid are killing people" which is bull ****...not to long ago i read some bull**** story about how muscles heads get addicted to steroids and they shot it intervienusly(in the viens) that is the biggest mis information i have ever read and i believe i read that in newsweek. seriously WTF if a person shot that in their viens they would more than like die...however i did say a piece last night where the ancor asked the guess about the misconception about steroids being liquid muscle, this was the first time i have ever heard anyone of the news companies even remotly address the issue of still having to train, eat , and sleep.

BuildUpNow · 02-25-2005, 09:53 PM

What exactly are we supporting him for?

fire · 02-25-2005, 11:37 PM

here is what I have to say about all this. 1st off I was a Steroid "abuser" in the 80's. Since 1990 I haven't touched even a single anadrol 250 tablet. (and I loved them to death). Anyway, I know how they affected me (mentally) not physically. So I am stuck dead in the middle on the steroid argument. I can't tell people not to do them since I've done them myself and I'll never condone them either. What does piss me off to no end is there is no way in hell that even if Steroids were bad for a persons health they are in NOOO WAY in comparison to Cigarettes. The effects from cigarettes kill more people in a year and cost the insurance agencies a billion dolllars a year and yet they are still legal!!! How the FUQ can you ban prohormones and make steroids illegal and not tobacco??? This countries politics are so twisted it makes me sick.

delta9 · 02-25-2005, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fire

here is what I have to say about all this. 1st off I was a Steroid "abuser" in the 80's. Since 1990 I haven't touched even a single anadrol 250 tablet. (and I loved them to death). Anyway, I know how they affected me (mentally) not physically. So I am stuck dead in the middle on the steroid argument. I can't tell people not to do them since I've done them myself and I'll never condone them either. What does piss me off to no end is there is no way in hell that even if Steroids were bad for a persons health they are in NOOO WAY in comparison to Cigarettes. The effects from cigarettes kill more people in a year and cost the insurance agencies a billion dolllars a year and yet they are still legal!!! How the FUQ can you ban prohormones and make steroids illegal and not tobacco??? This countries politics are so twisted it makes me sick.

it's all about the money

fire · 02-25-2005, 11:46 PM

Well there was legal money in pro hormones. Companies like BB.com i'm sure paid their tax money on all the prohormones they've sold as did all the other stores. The government got their kickbacks. They just hurt the small business people. Probably put Gaspari back into the posing trunks since all his site sold were prohormones.
In all, I know what your saying and I know your correct. It is just plain fu**ed up. I can't believe this goes on in this country and we don't have an uprising.

Tony B · 02-26-2005, 12:00 AM

signed

Raze · 02-26-2005, 12:35 AM

Signed!

Fridrik · 02-26-2005, 01:09 AM

Yeah baby! Bodybuilding hater's are going SO down!

Uriel_da_man · 02-26-2005, 02:27 AM

Man I hate the media. Stupid dumb****s who say what they want and the sheep beleive them. Sheesh.

cardioking · 02-26-2005, 03:27 AM

This is what pisses me off about our Government.

If you go out and drink you can kill someone in a car accident. Ever hear of someone getting killed by being hit by a juiced driver? No. Steroids do not affect the brains reaction time.

Second hand smoke is now killing as many people as smoking itself. Scary huh? Good thing people around a steroid user won't get any side effects too!

If the government bans things based on side effects and what they do to peoples health then why isn't cigarettes, cigars, and alcohol getting banned?

Steroids, Ephedra and PH affect only one person... the user. The government could possibly blame the bans on raising healthcare costs but in reality tobacco and alcohol cause a dramatic raise in it as well.

Signed

Raze · 02-26-2005, 03:42 AM

I can't help but to repeat myself on this issue, so my apologies to everyone, but It never ceases to amaze me that the drugs they should be focussing on are the ones they seldom mention. That's just my opinion though, I could be wrong.

American Steak · 02-26-2005, 03:55 AM

I just read the ESPN article and it doesnt seem unfair or biased at all. Im so sick of hearing all the Arnold worshippers treat him as if he's exempt from any kind of scrutiny.

Seriously its ONLY amongst juicers, that talking about the reality of steroids as being so ****ing taboo. Everyone likes to underplay the effectiveness and obvious advantage it has. Why act as if steroids are not a big deal? Because in the end its cheating, whether one consciously or subconciously acknowledges it.

I, like many other natural BB have no problem digging into the depths of steroids issues because we have nothing to hide. We know how much of an advantage it is because we struggle with every last drop of test from our balls to gain every pound of muscle we can.

Arnold, like every pro, knows how much steroids have played a big part in their career, and admitting that, would in a way, make them less man and legitimate to some people.

cardioking · 02-26-2005, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by American Steak

I just read the ESPN article and it doesnt seem unfair or biased at all. Im so sick of hearing all the Arnold worshippers treat him as if he's exempt from any kind of scrutiny.

Seriously its ONLY amongst juicers, that talking about the reality of steroids as being so ****ing taboo. Everyone likes to underplay the effectiveness and obvious advantage it has. Why act as if steroids are not a big deal? Because in the end its cheating, whether one consciously or subconciously acknowledges it.

I, like many other natural BB have no problem digging into the depths of steroids issues because we have nothing to hide. We know how much of an advantage it is because we struggle with every last drop of test from our balls to gain every pound of muscle we can.

Arnold, like every pro, knows how much steroids have played a big part in their career, and admitting that, would in a way, make them less man and legitimate to some people.

um...no. Its not cheating if everyone is doing it. Answer these questions...

1. Do steroids make Barry Bonds hit the ball? No, hitting a 90 mph fast ball is a skill.

2. Do bodybuilders have to take steroids? No. you can be natural. Its your choice how far you want to go in bodybuilding. You knew since day 1 that in order to be a top contender in the IFBB that you had to juice.

Fridrik · 02-26-2005, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cardioking

This is what pisses me off about our Government.

The problem is world wide, really. Few exceptions included ofcourse.

Oh and by the way. People should put warnings; "Don't eat much red meat, contains creatine!"

cardioking · 02-26-2005, 04:27 AM

no kidding. I just hate the fact that we are the home of the free but can't pick up Ephedra because the government thinks its bad for us. God gave us free will and the government toook it away. I thought adults could make up there minds about there health and there body. I guess all in all we are all just kids being parented by our government!