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Old 11-16-2004, 03:57 PM   #1
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Old 11-17-2004, 08:20 AM   #2
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bad advice

"I recommend that you stop taking the creatine product that is making you fat, and replace it instead with a regular creatine product free from excessive carbohydrates."


This is very misleading and makes the assumption that the sugar in his creatine drink is what's making him fat. It's not the sugar in this product, but the total calories he consumes in a day vs. the total he burns. Simple.

Taking ample amountf of fast acting carbphydrates increases nutrient uptake and prevents muscle protein breakdown. If fat loss is a primary goal, drop calories from elsewhere, not this time period.
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Old 11-17-2004, 10:54 AM   #3
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"I recommend that you stop taking the creatine product that is making you fat, and replace it instead with a regular creatine product free from excessive carbohydrates."

"This is very misleading and makes the assumption that the sugar in his creatine drink is what's making him fat. It's not the sugar in this product, but the total calories he consumes in a day vs. the total he burns. Simple..
Here is what I also wrote in the same question...

"Insulin spiking as a method of increasing protein synthesis decreases in efficiency and effectiveness over time as body fat levels rise. The reason for this is that insulin levels indirectly determine the ratio of testosterone to estrogen in the body. In the presence of elevated insulin levels, which are triggered as a response to the ingestion of simple carbohydrate, growth hormone levels and IGF-1 levels are reduced.

These anabolic and lipolytic hormones will favorably impact testosterone production. When these hormones are suppressed and when the spillover effect of excessive carbohydrate intake occurs, not only do body fat stores increase, but estrogen levels increase as a consequence of having anabolic and lipolytic hormones suppressed. "

An influx of carbohydrates post-workout is good, but he indicated that he is accumulating bodyfat at an excessive rate. Clearly he is alarmed by this, and thus he sent in a question to my column. High bodyfat levels decrease the effectiveness of insulin spiking to increase protein synthesis post-workout.

Bodyfat levels, therefore must be kept in check, and this neccessitates determining the exact amount of carbohydrate required to meet immediate requirements and replenish glycogen stores.

IF YOU CONSUME 75 GRAMS OF A HIGH GH SUBSTANCE LIKE DEXTROSE, YOU CAN NOT AVOID THE SPILL-OVER EFFECT RESPONSIBLE FOR BODY FAT ACCUMULATION.

It doesnt matter how hard you exercise - the bodys ability to store glycogen is limited and is far less than 75 grams of dextrose. If you take this product with its sugar content, you will get fat, as he and many, many others have done.

Whats more, weight loss and weight gain and fat loss and fat gain are not a simple matter of caloric intake. A calorie is NOT a calorie. Insulin control and manipulation is neccesary to lose or gain body fat. To suggest that body fat gain or loss is a simple matter of metabolic function is to simplify the matter in a way that ignores the science. A carbohydrate functions differently in the body than a protein, even thought they are calorically equal, because protein is lipolytic, and carbohydrate lipogenic. Again, I want to state this strongly: A calorie is NOT a calorie. All calories are not created equally. A calorie must be evaluated according to its function [the hormones they trigger]. Excessive carbohydrates will trigger insulin spikes which will drive down lipolytic hormones and thus contribute to a decrease in protein synthesis and an increase in bodyfat storage. And that, at least, is quite simple.

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please, get this clayton off the net!! back to school buddy.
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please, get this clayton off the net!! back to school buddy.
Why dont you post under a name so that the world can know who you are?

I guess you don't know anything about my extensive work in this industry...although I have suspicions about what company you work for...*hint* *hint*

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Why dont you post under a name so that the world can know who you are?

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altho GNC also has a 75 grams of carbohydrates creatine thing
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altho GNC also has a 75 grams of carbohydrates creatine thing
Yes they do .....you know...the product that they always try to push on people? They claim that it helps every CELL uptake more creatine....and that the TECH-nology behind it is cutting edge..(even though new research demonstrates that there is a better way to spike insulin...) Hmmm...i wonder what company he works for

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