Rickey Dawson - You have the Will But Don't have the Mass

luckygoats · 05-21-2002, 03:20 PM

Have you been working out and still not gaining any muscle mass? Read what Rickey has to say on how to gain mass muscle and what ways are best for you. Tell us what you think.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/rickey1.htm

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say say · 05-26-2002, 02:09 PM

i admit i didnt take the time to read every word of the article, i did skim through it...he says use heavy db's for db lunges, and i was under the impression that it is important to use a light weight with which u can get a deep stretch and have perfect form

canelo72 · 05-27-2002, 05:09 AM

I didn't like the workout program that much. Reason: Training chest and triceps the same day? Training Back and biceps the same day? Triceps receive a significant stress when doing certain exercises like bench press. By the time you move to the triceps section of your workout they are completely worn out; no way you can directly stress them the way you could and you should.

Additionally, I believe there are too many exercises there for a beginner. Nothing is worse for a beginner than overtraining... and I strongly believe this program is too much for a beginner.

Sorry for the criticism...

liftin14 · 06-02-2002, 06:52 PM

That it was a great article but he used the word beginner when he should have said intermediate to advanced.

Mingo · 06-19-2002, 01:12 PM

I think this article was low quality and will probably lead a begginer down the wrong path almost immedietly. My reasons being:

"because if you lift too light or too heavy then you will get weaker."

According to Rickey, If I lift heavy weights I will get weaker...interesting.

"lets phase it form basically builds sixty percent of training. Without form you will not get anywhere fast."

I agree, form is VERY important in training. No doubt 60% of training, but he dosen't even mention rep speeds or a correct breating pattern.

"Intensity is basically how hard you work like lets say you do a set of ten and you know you can do at least five more so you do it then you think hey maybe I can do three more so then you do three more then after that you think I am dead I cant do any more then you put all of your strength in and do one more. That is intensity at work and that is how you are going to get bigger and stronger if you are doing a set of eight and you know you can do a set of ten do it."

No Rickey, that is called going untill failure. Intensity is much much more than that. In fact, intensity for the most part brings your muscles PAST the point of failure by incorperating many tecniques that he didn't even mention like strip sets, decreasing rest time, pre-exashtion, negatives, ect.

Rickey then suggests a workout program that will most likely overtrain a beginner. Training back and triceps on the same day? Chest and biceps? How in the hell does that make any sense at all? Rickey is basicly telling you to overtrain your arms right there. If anything, a beginner should give the back and chest, as well as arms their own individual workout days.

"Guess what makes up 60% of bodybuilding and it isn't training. It is nutrition. See you can train as intense as you want in the gym but without proper nutrition you won't get anywhere. You should try to get in at least four meals a day and should make each meal have high carbs and high protein. If you have a high metabolism you should be filling yourself up with everything you can find so if you do have a high metabolism you should try to get in at least five meals a day with very high calories, protein, carbs, and other vitamins."

Here he gives you some nutrition advice but no support of scientific value whatsoever. Indeed, nutrition is 60% of bodybuilding, but shoulden't that mean that the nutrition section in the article should be at least the size of his section on training?

"So I suggest for starting out you should start with a protein shake, creatine, and a multi vitamin. Supplements work for seventy percent of the people that use them so just remember that."

Where's the Glutamine at? All supplements only work for 70% of people? Hardly true...

No offence to Rickey, but how the hell did this article pass inspection to the site?

say say · 06-19-2002, 03:34 PM

canelo, training tri's and chest on the same day is a pretty common thing (as is training bi's and back together)....since each(tris/chest or back/bi's) get worked indirectly while training the other, it certainly makes more sense to train them together and allow them to recover together rather than train one and train the other a day or two later, not allowing for ample recovery...