House votes to ban prohormones

[admin]

Just saw this news story:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1815134

It's always about "protecting the children". Obviously, parents can't do the job so the goverment has to. So much for protecting our freedom...

Ryan DeLuca
Bodybuilding.com

[derekmac]

Typical ignorance on the part of Washington.

[StanChampion]

there goes the neighborhood.
After the senate votes we are all done. Glad I have been stocking up.

[pogue]

Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- The House overwhelmingly voted Thursday to limit sales of steroid precursors such as androstenedione following congressional and public pressure to stamp out performance-enhancing drug use among baseball players.

The bill, passed 408-3, would ban over-the-counter sales of precursors, which act like steroids in the human body.

"We are here to say enough is enough by making it harder to traffic in steroids and making sure there are tough penalties for those who do," said House Judiciary Chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis.

The bill also would double the penalties for manufacturing or distributing anabolic steroids at or near a sports facility.

"The bill will go a long way to ensure that our nation's athletes and children will not be exposed to these dangerous products," said Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas.

While protecting pro sports is important, stopping children from using those chemicals is even more important, House members said.

"Young athletes are using these drugs in the belief that they can become great in their sports and gain a lot of money," said Rep. Bobby Scott, D-Va. "However, in addition to risking disqualification in their sport, they also risk stunted growth, infertility and other long-term health problems and even death."

Similar legislation, sponsored by Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., is pending in the Senate.

The House debated the bill on Wednesday but delayed the vote until Thursday.

Congress has taken an increased interest in the issue this year in the wake of reports of steroid use among athletes. A federal grand jury in San Francisco has indicted four men on charges of illegally distributing steroids, including the personal trainer of Barry Bonds.

Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig has asked the union to renegotiate its contract to include a tough steroids policy, and union chief Donald Fehr has left open the possibility of doing that before the players' collective bargaining agreement expires in December 2006.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1815134

[upINtheLBC]

I guess this is the beginning damn

DAMN 408 to 3

were screwed

Does this vote do any thing right now???

[ballbags1]

Originally posted by upINtheLBC
Does this vote do any thing right now???

That was my question too, not sure who would know though

[dio]

What about DHEA?

[pogue]

Originally posted by ballbags1
That was my question too, not sure who would know though

It still has to be approved by the senate and signed by the president.

Originally posted by dio
What about DHEA?

The bill that was passed does not include DHEA. The Bill was HR 3866.

SUMMARY AS OF:
4/2/2004--Reported to House, amended, Part I. (There is 1 other summary)

Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2004 - Amends the Controlled Substances Act to subject an offense of manufacturing, distributing, or possessing with intent to distribute an anabolic steroid within 1000 feet of a sports facility to twice the maximum penalty otherwise imposed for a controlled substance violation.

Directs the U.S. Sentencing Commission to review the Federal sentencing guidelines with respect to offenses involving anabolic steroids and consider amending such guidelines to provide for increased penalties.

Modifies the definition of "anabolic steroid" to include certain steroid precursors (including tetrahydrogestrinone (THG) and androstenedione) and to exclude dehydroepiandrosterone.

Authorizes the Attorney General, upon the recommendation of the Secretary of Health and Human Services, to exempt from regulation under such Act any compound, mixture, or preparation that contains any anabolic steroid that is intended for administration to a human being or an animal and that does not present any significant potential for abuse because of its concentration, preparation, formulation, or delivery system.

Directs the Secretary to prepare a report to the House and Senate Judiciary Committees evaluating the health risks associated with dietary supplements not addressed in this Act which contain substances similar to those added to the list of controlled substances under this Act.

Full text

[Cogar]

WASHINGTON -- The House overwhelmingly voted Thursday to limit sales of steroid precursors such as androstenedione following congressional and public pressure to stamp out performance-enhancing drug use among baseball players.

Yes, the use of performance-enhancing drugs among baseball players is a real national priority all right. There is also that other thing . . . um . . . oh yeah, Iraq and the war on terrorism. Glad to see that our government is focusing on the top priorities.

[dio]

If I'm not mistaken the areas around sports facilities will now be the equivalent of drug-free school zones (increased penalties etc)

I wonder that applies to gyms too?

[bdj428]

`(A) The term `anabolic steroid' means any drug or hormonal substance, chemically and pharmacologically related to testosterone (other than estrogens, progestins, corticosteroids, and dehydroepiandrosterone), and includes--

`(i) androstanediol--

`(I) 3b,17b-dihydroxy-5a-androstane; and

`(II) 3a,17b-dihydroxy-5a-androstane;

`(ii) androstanedione (5a-androstan-3,17-dione);

`(iii) androstenediol--

`(I) 1-androstenediol (3b,17b-dihydroxy-5a-androst-1-ene);

`(II) 1-androstenediol (3a,17b-dihydroxy-5a-androst-1-ene);

`(III) 4-androstenediol (3b,17b-dihydroxy-androst-4-ene); and

`(IV) 5-androstenediol (3b,17b-dihydroxy-androst-5-ene);

`(iv) androstenedione--

`(I) 1-androstenedione ([5a]-androst-1-en-3,17-dione);

`(II) 4-androstenedione (androst-4-en-3,17-dione); and

`(III) 5-androstenedione (androst-5-en-3,17-dione);

`(v) bolasterone (7a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one);

`(vi) boldenone (17b-hydroxyandrost-1,4,-diene-3-one);

`(vii) calusterone (7b,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one);

`(viii) clostebol (4-chloro-17b-hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one);

`(ix) dehydrochlormethyltestosterone (4-chloro-17b-hydroxy-17a-methylandrost-1,4-dien-3-one);

`(x) D1-dihydrotestosterone (also known as 1-testosterone) (17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-3-one);

`(xi) 4-dihydrotestosterone (17b-hydroxy-androstan-3-one);

`(xii) drostanolone (17b-hydroxy-2a-methyl-5a-androstan-3-one);

`(xiii) ethylestrenol (17a-ethyl-17b-hydroxyestr-4-ene);

`(xiv) fluoxymesterone (9-fluoro-17a-methyl-11b,17b-dihydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one);

`(xv) formebolone (2-formyl-17a-methyl-11a,17b-dihydroxyandrost-1,4-dien-3-one);

`(xvi) furazabol (17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyandrostano[2,3-c]-furazan);

`(xvii) 13a-ethyl-17b-hydroxygon-4-en-3-one;

`(xviii) 4-hydroxytestosterone (4,17b-dihydroxy-androst-4-en-3-one);

`(xix) 4-hydroxy-19-nortestosterone (4,17b-dihydroxy-estr-4-en-3-one);

`(xx) mestanolone (17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one);

`(xxi) mesterolone (1a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-[5a]-androstan-3-one);

`(xxii) methandienone (17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyandrost-1,4-dien-3-one);

`(xxiii) methandriol (17a-methyl-3b,17b-dihydroxyandrost-5-ene);

`(xxiv) methenolone (1-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-1-en-3-one);

`(xxv) methyltestosterone (17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one);

`(xxvi) mibolerone (7a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxyestr-4-en-3-one);

`(xxvii) 17a-methyl-D1-dihydrotestosterone (17 b-hydroxy-17a-methyl-5a-androst-1-en-3-one) (also known as `17-a-methyl-1-testosterone');

`(xxviii) nandrolone (17b-hydroxyestr-4-en-3-one);

`(xxix) norandrostenediol--

`(I) 19-nor-4-androstenediol (3b, 17b-dihydroxyestr-4-ene);

`(II) 19-nor-4-androstenediol (3a, 17b-dihydroxyestr-4-ene);

`(III) 19-nor-5-androstenediol (3b, 17b-dihydroxyestr-5-ene); and

`(IV) 19-nor-5-androstenediol (3a, 17b-dihydroxyestr-5-ene);

`(xxx) norandrostenedione--

`(I) 19-nor-4-androstenedione (estr-4-en-3,17-dione); and

`(II) 19-nor-5-androstenedione (estr-5-en-3,17-dione);

`(xxxi) norbolethone (13b,17a-diethyl-17b-hydroxygon-4-en-3-one);

`(xxxii) norclostebol (4-chloro-17b-hydroxyestr-4-en-3-one);

`(xxxiii) norethandrolone (17a-ethyl-17b-hydroxyestr-4-en-3-one);

`(xxxiv) oxandrolone (17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-2-oxa-[5a]-androstan-3-one);

`(xxxv) oxymesterone (17a-methyl-4,17b-dihydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one);

`(xxxvi) oxymetholone (17a-methyl-2-hydroxymethylene-17b-hydroxy-[5a]-androstan-3-one);

`(xxxvii) stanozolol (17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-[5a]-androst-2-eno[3,2-c]-pyrazole);

`(xxxviii) stenbolone (17b-hydroxy-2-methyl-[5a]-androst-1-en-3-one);

`(xxxix) testolactone (13-hydroxy-3-oxo-13,17-secoandrosta-1,4-dien-17-oic acid lactone);

`(xl) testosterone (17b-hydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one);

`(xli) tetrahydrogestrinone (13b,17a-diethyl-17b-hydroxygon-4,9,11-trien-3-one);

`(xlii) trenbolone (17b-hydroxyestr-4,9,11-trien-3-one); and

`(xliii) any salt, ester, or ether of a drug or substance described in this paragraph;'; and

(2) in paragraph (44), by inserting `anabolic steroids,' after `marihuana,'.

[pogue]

Newsletter from the NNFA

House Passes H.R. 3866 - Victory for DHEA

This afternoon, H.R. 3866, the Anabolic Steroid Control Act, was overwhelmingly passed by the U.S. House of Representatives with an exemption for the safe and beneficial dietary supplement DHEA intact.

Thanks to all who sent messages and made phone calls to key members in the House urging them to keep the exemption for DHEA and not to classify it as a controlled substance. Your legislators listen to you and your e-mails and letters can really make a difference.

A companion bill in the U.S. Senate, S. 2195, is currently being considered by the Judiciary Committee. To expedite passage and enactment of this bill, the Senate can adopt the same provisions of the House bill, including the exemption for DHEA. If the Senate decides to pass a bill with provisions that are different from the House bill, these bills will need to be reconciled in a conference committee.

We’ll be monitoring the progress of the S. 2195 to ensure DHEA continues to receive the protection it deserves in the Senate. We’ll let you know if we need your help in contacting your Senators to keep DHEA legal.


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[bdj428]

It's amazing what this country does in the name of "protecting our kids." All this bill will do is turn responsible adults trying got improve their bodies into lawbreaking criminals. In reality, all it will do is drive more people to the anabolic steroid black market.

[beatphats]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by bdj428
[B]`(A) The term `anabolic steroid' means any drug or hormonal substance, chemically and pharmacologically related to testosterone (other than estrogens, progestins, corticosteroids, and dehydroepiandrosterone), and includes--



So did they forget to add something? Starting to look for the loopholes already...

[bdj428]

I just thought it was interesting that the bill expands the definition of anabloic steroids. If this becomes law, many of us 1-AD folks will become "former steroid users."

[bigpump23]

so does the fact that the senate still has to pass it and president still have to sign it, that means we can still get PH's for a few more days correct?

[Ragnarok]

Yes, but you better hurry.

My favorite line: "The bill will go a long way to ensure that our nation's athletes and children will not be exposed to these dangerous products," said Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas.

Ah,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!!!!!!

NO. What this bill will do is "ensure that persons formerly using dangerous pro-hormones will now use the actual hormones, increasing AAS traffic."

What a joke. How many high-school althletes use steroids? A lot. Think this bill is gonna help? The only benefit this bill has, is that it will increase market activity for AAS. If they're all illegal, who's gonna bother with PHs?

What a bunch or morons.

[Ragnarok]

"Congress has taken an increased interest in the issue this year in the wake of reports of steroid use among athletes. A federal grand jury in San Francisco has indicted four men on charges of illegally distributing steroids, including the personal trainer of Barry Bonds."

This is NEWS? Steroids have been used in sports for how long?

[blackta]

Originally posted by pogue
Newsletter from the NNFA House Passes H.R. 3866 - Victory for DHEA

This afternoon, H.R. 3866, the Anabolic Steroid Control Act, was overwhelmingly passed by the U.S. House of Representatives with an exemption for the safe and beneficial dietary supplement DHEA intact.

Thanks to all who sent messages and made phone calls to key members in the House urging them to keep the exemption for DHEA and not to classify it as a controlled substance. Your legislators listen to you and your e-mails and letters can really make a difference.

A companion bill in the U.S. Senate, S. 2195, is currently being considered by the Judiciary Committee. To expedite passage and enactment of this bill, the Senate can adopt the same provisions of the House bill, including the exemption for DHEA. If the Senate decides to pass a bill with provisions that are different from the House bill, these bills will need to be reconciled in a conference committee.

We?ll be monitoring the progress of the S. 2195 to ensure DHEA continues to receive the protection it deserves in the Senate. We?ll let you know if we need your help in contacting your Senators to keep DHEA legal.

Oh I love this..talk about putting a ****ing spin oin this.... "Victory for DHEA" DHEA???? Whe the **** cares about DHEA??? What a joke. The NNFA did NOTHING and now they're going to keep us informed on how to keep DHEA legal??? KMA

[BPP]

well, I just ordered up.....


I'm glad this summer I can be a criminal for things I could get at GNC last year

[slick1231]

Anyone know the shelf life of prohormones?

1-2 years?

[bdj428]

House votes to turn bodybuilders into common thugs

Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- The House overwhelmingly voted Thursday to drive more teen and adult athletes into the illegal steroid black market.

Citing a troubling decline in the number arrests for drug-related crimes, lawmakers hope the legislation will attract thousands more to the “dark side” of bodybuilding and help fill empty jail cells across the country.

“We need more criminals, pure and simple,” said Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-New York. ”Under the Bush Administration, crime has fallen 30 percent. This is outrageous. I therefore welcome any legislation that turns common law-abiding citizens into criminals.”

Others view the legislation as tribute to the glory days of bodybuilding, when lifters wanting extra muscle didn’t have safe and non-aromatizing alternatives like 1-AD in which to turn. “Guys like Arnold and Katz – these guys weren’t pro-hormone sissies,” said Sen. Joe Biden, D-Delaware, co-sponsor of a similar measure in the U.S. Senate. “I mean, come on. A shot in the ass never killed anyone.”

Agreed Clinton: “It’s time we brought back the real juice – and I don’t mean O.J.”

Others see the legislation as necessary to help protect children.
“What kind of message have we been sending to our kids?” said House Judiciary Chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisconsin. “That’s it’s OK to half-ass it? That all you need to do to get big is pop a little pill? This is America. Give our kids some testosterone, for Cripes sake.”

Experts believe the legislation, if passed in the Senate and signed into law by President Bush, will greatly increase the sales of hardcore anabolics like sustanon, deca-durabolin, dianabol, Cell-Tech and other substances known to pack on huge amounts of muscle.

“Needless to say, we’re very pleased,” said Juan Susto Riverez, owner of a Tijuana-based pharmacy that specializes in the export of anabolics to the U.S. “By the way, do you mind mailing a package for me?”

The Bush Administration commended Congress for passage of the legislation.

“In this time of war, we are grateful for this patriotic action taken by our national leaders,” said White House press secretary Scott McClellan. “The president is pleased that these weapons of mass destruction will be taken off the shelves.”

McClellan refused to respond to reports that Iran has begun manufacturing a andro-based transdermal cream.

[Ragnarok]

Sledge or Edog said a couple of years. I THINK edog was taking polls on anyone interested in a new delivery method that would preserve the shelf life, but I don't think that's gonna happen now.

Don't quote me on all this, in light of the recent mass of posts regarding all this, I may have gotten confused.

But I'm pretty sure the shelf life is a couple of years.

[Cogar]

LOL bdj428. Great post.

[cowboyathlete]

Originally posted by slick1231
Anyone know the shelf life of prohormones?

1-2 years?

Check the label, of course. I just got my first ever (and possibly last) bottle of Higher Power's methy 1-test in the mail today. It expires in April 2007. The 4-AD made by Sci Fit that I use expires in March and/or April 2006.

[blackta]

Originally posted by Ragnarok
Sledge or Edog said a couple of years. I THINK edog was taking polls on anyone interested in a new delivery method that would preserve the shelf life, but I don't think that's gonna happen now.

Don't quote me on all this, in light of the recent mass of posts regarding all this, I may have gotten confused.

But I'm pretty sure the shelf life is a couple of years.

i just ordered 2 cases of legal gear m1t from millennium fitness and the expiration on them is 03/06 so i'm assuming that goes for about any of their products?

[cowboyathlete]

Originally posted by blackta
i just ordered 2 cases of legal gear m1t from millennium fitness and the expiration on them is 03/06 so i'm assuming that goes for about any of their products?

CASES? Damn I wish I had your budget. LOL

[legalgear]

Just do your best to wrap them tightly in plastic and store in a cool dry place. I suggest you avoid the fridge and they should last years. Expiration dates are really more of suggestions vs. hard facts on PH products. Good luck all and transfer them out of their original bottles for safety.

E

[cowboyathlete]

I tried to post a threat about how CBS evening news covered the ban, but it was misunderstood and the threat got closed. :-(

[DAMBIGlsu]

IDK if anyone else has noticed but the entire government is lauching a campaign against the entire dietary supplement market. First ephedrine, then prohormones, next it's gonna be all supplements other than protein supplements. The government would like to make it a requirement for any and all dietary supplement to undergo testing through the FDA before it hits the shelves. That would mean you probably wouldn't be able to get anything for like 5 years minimum! These people are going alittle too far when it comes to the "better safe than sorry" approach. I beg everyone to write to your congress person or representative, if enough people write we might make them think about this before they run off with our supplements. I admit that the majority of the "public outcry"over supplements to be banned is due to the media's distortion of the truth, but when thats all some people hear they begin to believe it. So unless you can grow and produce your own supplements ask you representatives to attend the Herbal Alternatives Briefing in Washington coming up on June 17th. Balls in our court guys and this could be the game shot, so don't just sit back and prey, TAKE SOME ACTION!!