Clark Bartram - Top 10 Reasons We Need To Drink Water!

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Clark Bartram takes us through his top ten reasons we need to drink water and the top ten reasons to consume water instead of soda.

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[bhman6]

"To replace the water stolen by soft drinks, you need to drink 8-12 glasses of water for every one glass of soft drinks that you consume!"


This is absolutely ridiculous. Care to provide any peer reviewed studies showing this is true Clark? My fiance's father only drinks sodas for his liquid source, no water, milk, juice, etc. He occasionally has a glass of tea. So you are telling me that because of the sugar and caffeine in these products he should have died a long time ago because those two items would have leached water from his body? Once again, ridiculous.


True, the caffeine does act as a mild diruetic, but not to the extent that it is not a fluid source first. I HIGHLY doubt that the minimal amount of caffeine found of sodas excretes 8-12 times it's amount in water. If this were true that those consuming a cup of coffee in the morning would have to consume 24-36 glasses of water to replace the fluids "stolen" from the body. This doesn't even take into account the people who drink 5-10 cups of coffee daily. Give me a break.


I know you are trying to motivate people to drink more water, but posting outrageous claims will only cause confusion.

[bhman6]

"Soft Drinks are the WORSE THING you can possibly put in your body"


One, it's spelled worst, not worse in this case.


Two, I suppose I should be drinking alcohol, eating spoonfuls of frosting and smoking a pack of cigarettes a day because those damn sodas are worse for me.


True, in high amounts they can slightly alter the PH of the blood, but so does high amounts of protein, typically followed by every single person reading this website.


Terrible article

[bhman6]

While I'm at it how about these:

"If you drink 12 ounces of a 10% sugar solution, less than 1 ounce will be absorbed in the same period."

- so I suppose all the sports drinks and recovery drinks sold are actually dehydrating the body. Better alert Gatorade, for they have been doing it all wrong for over 30 years.


"The high amounts of sugar in Soft Drinks causes your pancreas to produce an abundance of insulin, which leads to a "sugar crash"."

- Most soft drinks contain high fructose corn syrup, which actually doesn't evoke as huge an insuling response as things such as potatoes, white rice, etc. Fructose is primarily responsible for replenishing liver glycogen. While I agree it is not a highly desirable thing to consume, it does not produce an abundance of insulin.



"Consumed with french-fries which can take WEEKS to digest"

- so those people who eat some french fries everyday should have exploded by now because of all those fries still in their GI tract.


"Soft Drinks are EXTREMELY acidic: The human body naturally exists at a pH of about 7.0. Soft Drinks have a pH of about 2.5, which means you are putting something into your body that is hundred of thousands of times more acidic that your body is!"

- One, the body's pH isn't at 7.0....pure water is, which doesn't exsist in the body. The blood is actually around 7.4 and the rest of the body can range from anywhere on the pH scale.

What about the HCL in the stomach? Its pH is much lower than soft drinks, and could much more easily eat through a car bumper. True, as a whole the body isn't this acidic, but the acids in the stomach are far worse and for some strange reason human's aren't extinct yet...weird.

While I'm at it how about these:

"If you drink 12 ounces of a 10% sugar solution, less than 1 ounce will be absorbed in the same period."

- so I suppose all the sports drinks and recovery drinks sold are actually dehydrating the body. Better alert Gatorade, for they have been doing it all wrong for over 30 years.

===He didn't say it is never absorbed, only a 5th grader would pull the kind of conclusion from what was said, that you did!


"The high amounts of sugar in Soft Drinks causes your pancreas to produce an abundance of insulin, which leads to a "sugar crash"."

- Most soft drinks contain high fructose corn syrup, which actually doesn't evoke as huge an insuling response as things such as potatoes, white rice, etc. Fructose is primarily responsible for replenishing liver glycogen. While I agree it is not a highly desirable thing to consume, it does not produce an abundance of insulin.

===High fructose corn syrup is not a naturally occuring substance such as Fructose from eating an apple... You can't eat an ear of corn and get HFCsyrup! It is a heavily processed product, originally an unused byproduct in the production process of Ethanol fuel. AND SO UNLIKE (FRUCTOSE) WHICH OCCURS NATURALLY, HFCS CAUSES A GREATER INSULIN SPIKE/RELEASE THAN DOES SUGAR! But I guess in being so proud of yourself for being so smug and contrite you don't actually know everything!



"Consumed with french-fries which can take WEEKS to digest"

- so those people who eat some french fries everyday should have exploded by now because of all those fries still in their GI tract.


====Every seen a bunch of full corn bits come out in your feces after eating corn-on-the-cobb? Gee I guess people should have exploded because nothing ever leaves your body without fully being digested! Only thing is corn being higher in fiber leaves much quicker if not properly chewed/digested than does a fried potato which pokes along the digestive track in comparrison!!! He is making a point through an exaggeration to emphasize how unhealthy the item is, but you act as if he expected everyone to think it actually stays in the body that long! (kind of like reading the bible and thinking that everything should be taken literally!)


"Soft Drinks are EXTREMELY acidic: The human body naturally exists at a pH of about 7.0. Soft Drinks have a pH of about 2.5, which means you are putting something into your body that is hundred of thousands of times more acidic that your body is!"

- One, the body's pH isn't at 7.0....pure water is, which doesn't exsist in the body. The blood is actually around 7.4 and the rest of the body can range from anywhere on the pH scale.

===No the body couldn't not "...range from ANYWHERE on the pH scale." That is ridiculous! But see I take your Clark like statement for what it is, but if I where you I would rant about how stupid a statement that is... The body could never survive at extraneous pH levels. That was just stupid!!!


What about the HCL in the stomach? Its pH is much lower than soft drinks, and could much more easily eat through a car bumper. True, as a whole the body isn't this acidic, but the acids in the stomach are far worse and for some strange reason human's aren't extinct yet...weird.


====Trying to generalize a persons pH is difficult because different areas/fluids have different levels. But "The blood is actually around 7.4..." is not that far from 7.0, plus you compared blood to Clark's talking about the entire body... so your were being stupid. You should have just stuck with saying nothing!!!! Becuase you were either wrong, or muddied the water! P.S. Define "Pure Water"? And what the hell does that have to do anything Clark said! Hey why don't you take that water and create your own "PERFECT" article!

While I'm at it how about these:

"If you drink 12 ounces of a 10% sugar solution, less than 1 ounce will be absorbed in the same period."

- so I suppose all the sports drinks and recovery drinks sold are actually dehydrating the body. Better alert Gatorade, for they have been doing it all wrong for over 30 years.

===He didn't say it is never absorbed, only a 5th grader would pull the kind of conclusion from what was said, that you did!


"The high amounts of sugar in Soft Drinks causes your pancreas to produce an abundance of insulin, which leads to a "sugar crash"."

- Most soft drinks contain high fructose corn syrup, which actually doesn't evoke as huge an insuling response as things such as potatoes, white rice, etc. Fructose is primarily responsible for replenishing liver glycogen. While I agree it is not a highly desirable thing to consume, it does not produce an abundance of insulin.

===High fructose corn syrup is not a naturally occuring substance such as Fructose from eating an apple... You can't eat an ear of corn and get HFCsyrup! It is a heavily processed product, originally an unused byproduct in the production process of Ethanol fuel. AND SO UNLIKE (FRUCTOSE) WHICH OCCURS NATURALLY, HFCS CAUSES A GREATER INSULIN SPIKE/RELEASE THAN DOES SUGAR! But I guess in being so proud of yourself for being so smug and contrite you don't actually know everything!



"Consumed with french-fries which can take WEEKS to digest"

- so those people who eat some french fries everyday should have exploded by now because of all those fries still in their GI tract.


====Ever seen a bunch of full corn bits come out in your feces after eating corn-on-the-cobb? Gee I guess people should have exploded because nothing ever leaves your body without fully being digested! Only thing is corn being higher in fiber leaves much quicker if not properly chewed/digested than does a fried potato which pokes along the digestive track in comparrison!!! He is making a point through an exaggeration to emphasize how unhealthy the item is, but you act as if he expected everyone to think it actually stays in the body that long! (kind of like reading the bible and thinking that everything should be taken literally!)


"Soft Drinks are EXTREMELY acidic: The human body naturally exists at a pH of about 7.0. Soft Drinks have a pH of about 2.5, which means you are putting something into your body that is hundred of thousands of times more acidic that your body is!"

- One, the body's pH isn't at 7.0....pure water is, which doesn't exsist in the body. The blood is actually around 7.4 and the rest of the body can range from anywhere on the pH scale.

===No the body couldn't not "...range from ANYWHERE on the pH scale." That is ridiculous! But see I take your Clark like statement for what it is, but if I where you I would rant about how stupid a statement that is... The body could never survive at extraneous pH levels. That was just stupid!!!


What about the HCL in the stomach? Its pH is much lower than soft drinks, and could much more easily eat through a car bumper. True, as a whole the body isn't this acidic, but the acids in the stomach are far worse and for some strange reason human's aren't extinct yet...weird.


====Trying to generalize a persons pH is difficult because different areas/fluids have different levels. But "The blood is actually around 7.4..." is not that far from 7.0, plus you compared blood to Clark's talking about the entire body... so your were being stupid. You should have just stuck with saying nothing!!!! Becuase you were either wrong, or muddied the water! P.S. Define "Pure Water"? And what the hell does that have to do anything Clark said! Hey why don't you take that water and create your own "PERFECT" article!

Quote:
"Soft Drinks are EXTREMELY acidic: The human body naturally exists at a pH of about 7.0. Soft Drinks have a pH of about 2.5, which means you are putting something into your body that is hundred of thousands of times more acidic that your body is!"

- One, the body's pH isn't at 7.0....pure water is, which doesn't exsist in the body. The blood is actually around 7.4 and the rest of the body can range from anywhere on the pH scale.

===No the body couldn't not "...range from ANYWHERE on the pH scale." That is ridiculous! But see I take your Clark like statement for what it is, but if I where you I would rant about how stupid a statement that is... The body could never survive at extraneous pH levels. That was just stupid!!!

What about the HCL in the stomach? Its pH is much lower than soft drinks, and could much more easily eat through a car bumper. True, as a whole the body isn't this acidic, but the acids in the stomach are far worse and for some strange reason human's aren't extinct yet...weird.


====Trying to generalize a persons pH is difficult because different areas/fluids have different levels. But "The blood is actually around 7.4..." is not that far from 7.0, plus you compared blood to Clark's talking about the entire body... so your were being stupid. You should have just stuck with saying nothing!!!! Becuase you were either wrong, or muddied the water! P.S. Define "Pure Water"? And what the hell does that have to do anything Clark said! Hey why don't you take that water and create your own "PERFECT" article![/QUOTE]

You're calling people names here instead of presenting arguments and facts.

The main fact of the matter is that the article presents soft drinks as having a pH of 2.5, which is completely false. A pH 2.5 mixture would eat straight through any mucous membranes it came into contact with. Your stomach stays intact by secreting loads of mucous to line the stomach walls and keep them away from stomach acid.

Pure water is a pretty simple definition, it's just water with nothing else in it, which would have a pH of 7.0. Note that what comes out of your tap at home is NOT pure water, and has all manner of ions and fluoride additives in it.

I also find some other claims in the article to be misleading:

"A severe lack of minerals can lead to Heart Disease (lack of magnesium"

-This is also utterly false. Heart disease is caused by blockage of the arteries that supply blood to the heart. Any deficit in magnesium would be borrowed from other tissues before the body allowed the heart to be harmed.

"Diet soft drinks contain Aspartame, which has been linked to depression, insomnia, neurological disease and a plethora of other illness. The FDA has received more than 10,000 consumer complaints about Aspartame, that's 80% of all complaints about food additives. "

I cannot prove whether this is true or not, but I will point out that aspartame hasn't been PROVEN to do any of these things and consumer complaints aren't proof of anything either. The fact that this article presents facts and figures with no citations raises questions as to the validity in these statements.

"Alzheimer patients who have been autopsied ALL have high levels of aluminum in their brains. Heavy metals in the body can lead to many neurological and other diseases. "

Stating that Alzheimer's patients ALL have high levels of aluminium in their brains frankly strikes me as an outright lie because if ALL Alzheimer's patients had high levels of aluminium we would know how to prevent Alzheimer's...and we don't.

"For example, the Body pH of cancer or arthritis patients are always low. The sicker the person, the lower the Body pH."

Like the statement about alzheimer patients, I regard this information as dubious at best.

To conclude, while I agree that drinking water is much healthier than drinking soft drinks, I find the use of unsubstantiated claims to pove this point to be offensive.

The burden of proof is on the author of this article.

Approximately 16 years ago my father had surgery to remove cancer on his Large Intestine. After cancer was removed and my father recovered successfully, he was advised to avoid drinking the water. So he did so. Now for 16 years already my father havent drink even a sip of pure water, only mineral water with gas occasionally. He drinks approx 1 liter of herbal tea (none specific mixture, just random herbal teas). And some days ago i learned that he is one of a few persons who lived so long after this surgery, and even we had 3.5 yrs of war here...

So i must say that i dont agree so much with theory stated in this topic.

All the best!

[Arcoiris]

bhman6 says:
This is absolutely ridiculous. Care to provide any peer reviewed studies showing this is true Clark? My fiance's father only drinks sodas for his liquid source, no water, milk, juice, etc. He occasionally has a glass of tea. So you are telling me that because of the sugar and caffeine in these products he should have died a long time ago because those two items would have leached water from his body? Once again, ridiculous.
I know you are trying to motivate people to drink more water, but posting outrageous claims will only cause confusion.[/QUOTE]
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I absolutely agree. If you are trying to motivate people to drink more water, the best way is to provide good solid scientific facts, backed up by peer reviewed articles. Hearsay, opinions and unsupported claims do not convince anybody with a modicum of critical thinking.
I want to believe in your claims because I am trying to get my family out of sodas, juices, etc and more into plain water, but I have to persuade them with good science.