Smith machine benching

[PaintTheWorld]

Is it okay to bench with a smith machine? I hear free weights are alot better...

Also will my chest develop better with free weights?

[hyp3r3xt3nsion]

free weights > *

smith = strength exageration, less rom, less leverage, more chance of injury because of unnatural fixed rom

[ripped_holla]

Originally posted by hyp3r3xt3nsion
free weights > *

smith = strength exageration, less rom, less leverage, more chance of injury because of unnatural fixed rom

Bizzump. Avoid the Smith machine like the plague.

[BPP]

Originally posted by PaintTheWorld
Is it okay to bench with a smith machine?

NO!

Originally posted by PaintTheWorld
Also will my chest develop better with free weights?

YES!

[jino]

Again... I have absolutely nothing good to say about smith machines whatsoever....

[mizzOe]

i use smith machine more then i use free weights for benching...
i lift about 10kgs more on the smith machine then free-weights...

should i keep using smith machine or switch to free weights...
or should i just stop using smith machine... ya'll seem to hate it that much lol... whats the deal?

[jino]

Yes, drop the smith machines right now and stick to free weights. You'll hear people in this forum saying that a million times. Smith machines move in an unnatural fixed range of motion and are not nearly as effective as free weights. They are the worst thing invented in the history of gym equipments. Stick to free weights.

[mizzOe]

damn its so much easier with smith machine... thanks for the info, i also do behind the neck presses with smith machine.. is that a bad thing also?

[-_-]

Hey I like the smith machine for... standing calf raises. Especially fun to leave the barbell at the highest position with half a dozen+ plates on it and watch the next chump get pissed unloading it :P

edit : But don't use the smith machine for ANYTHING else than standing calf raises, imo. Unless there's something I don't know, the smith machine just sucks for any of those exercises you guys mentionned.

[jino]

Originally posted by mizzOe
damn its so much easier with smith machine... thanks for the info, i also do behind the neck presses with smith machine.. is that a bad thing also?

Yes, it's bad. Behind-the-neck presses are bad even with free weights. It can damage your rotator cuffs in the long run. And most of all, DO NOT USE THE SMITH MACHINE.

[PROSA]

Originally posted by mizzOe
damn its so much easier with smith machine

That's precisely the problem.

[jino]

Exactly, just like machines, smith machines make it easier for you. You don't have to worry about the weight going out of balance and you don't have to worry much about your form or the way you're performing the movement because it will always move through the same path NO MATTER WHAT. All you have to do is lift the weight, that's it!

[THe WeapoN]

bump to all yes on free weights

[A-rod]

SMITH WHAT ?????




Give me a ****ing break , USE FREEWEIGHTS

[RBEshadow]

Originally posted by -_-
Hey I like the smith machine for... standing calf raises. Especially fun to leave the barbell at the highest position with half a dozen+ plates on it and watch the next chump get pissed unloading it :P

edit : But don't use the smith machine for ANYTHING else than standing calf raises, imo. Unless there's something I don't know, the smith machine just sucks for any of those exercises you guys mentionned.

Agreed. That is the only thing I ever use a smith machine for. I work out at my high school and all the people who work out there are all dumb asses and it pisses me off how they think there so great cause they can squat x lbs on a smith machine, when they couldn't do half that with free weights.

[hyp3r3xt3nsion]

Originally posted by RBEshadow
Agreed. That is the only thing I ever use a smith machine for. I work out at my high school and all the people who work out there are all dumb asses and it pisses me off how they think there so great cause they can squat x lbs on a smith machine, when they couldn't do half that with free weights.

it's always fun watching some overly cocky person go from smith to barbell and watch them get plastered from using real training methods

[PROSA]

I get a kick out of people doing Smith squats with their feet as much as 18 inches in front of the bar. They have to lean way back, so far that they'd fall down if it weren't for the bar. There's no way they'll be able to manage real squats with that sort of form.

[hyp3r3xt3nsion]

Originally posted by PROSA
I get a kick out of people doing Smith squats with their feet as much as 18 inches in front of the bar. They have to lean way back, so far that they'd fall down if it weren't for the bar. There's no way they'll be able to manage real squats with that sort of form.

hehe, so true

[lgp9999]

Originally posted by PROSA
I get a kick out of people doing Smith squats with their feet as much as 18 inches in front of the bar. They have to lean way back, so far that they'd fall down if it weren't for the bar. There's no way they'll be able to manage real squats with that sort of form.

Yeah. I laugh my ass off everytime I see that.

[mizzOe]

thanks for the info peoples...

[8 pak man]

did you know gunter never squats unless its with the smith machine though for safety reasons he says

[8 pak man]

were talking about benching nevermind lol ( sorry its late haha)

[Lee_5]

Originally posted by -_-
Hey I like the smith machine for... standing calf raises.

Thats all i use it for.

Though im a bit too tall for it. I have to keep my head down or i'll hit it on the top of the machine. lol.

[El Dudereno]

I use it for incline and flat bench, and shoulder press as well (because that's the next exercise on my chest/shoulder day, and since I'm already right there...)

I initially used free weights on bench and incline bench but it just killed my elbows. They were hurting outside the gym as well. Not good.

[BPP]

Originally posted by -_-
Especially fun to leave the barbell at the highest position with half a dozen+ plates on it and watch the next chump get pissed unloading it :P

no, thats not fun, its called being a dickhead

[hyp3r3xt3nsion]

Originally posted by -_-
Hey I like the smith machine for... standing calf raises. Especially fun to leave the barbell at the highest position with half a dozen+ plates on it and watch the next chump get pissed unloading it :P

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[jino]

Smith machines are great. Here are the reasons why they're so useful:

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[Jacked123]

I disagree some what...old smith machines sucked, I f**ked my back up squatting on one after only the second time trying it...in the powerhouse gym I workout at they have 2 that arent bad...one even goes up and down on angle to be more natural like free weights...I like using them if I dont have spotter or doing pauses and explode type reps...most ppl that dont like them prolly have bad form...smith machine keeps you strict, very strict.

[Quagmire]

Originally posted by jino
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Now, now, smith machines are really useful...here's MY ten reasons why...

1. They keep most newbies away from the freeweights

2. Personal trainers don't have to worry about teaching clients pesky things like 'using good form'

3. It's always fun to watch someone who doesn't know what they're doing put clamps on the ends of the bar...

4. Excellent temporary storage facility for towels, belts, straps, etc.

5. If some irritating newbie asks, "how'd you get so big?" you should point to the smith machine and give a thumbs-up gesture. Make sure you show them your shaker bottle full of Cell-tech

6. You can actually do chins if you put the bar in the highest position and pick up your feet

7. If you decide to purchase your own, it will keep that pesky billfold from getting so darn heavy

8. aw, hell, that's all I can think of

[Jacked123]

well the owner of our gym is 50yrs old and looks awesome and wins master bb comps...he only uses the smith, some dbs and hammerstrength machines...hes about 5'7, 180 and 19in arms...anybody in here would wish you looked like him, guarantee...its all about getting the blood into the muscle not bouncing 225lb off your chest for 12 reps and looking ignant.