Layne Norton - Let The Countdown Begin: 16 Weeks Out!

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I have decided to start cutting at approximately 22 weeks out this year and only lose 1-1.5 lbs per week. I want to leave nothing to chance...

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Your a dumbass for starting so early. Your going to look as bob chick put it "an aushwitz" survivor after your done.

TOo bad your too afraid to debate the main problems of HIIT cardio. Thats ok well see you shrink like a balloon.

[ronmolina]

Your extremely smart starting early. That will give you a chance to tweek things if you need to. Good luck! Thanks for the article.

[PowerManDL]

Originally posted by Yellow Jacket85
TOo bad your too afraid to debate the main problems of HIIT cardio. Thats ok well see you shrink like a balloon.

You mean, "CNS overtraining"?

[FortifiedIron]

Originally posted by Yellow Jacket85


TOo bad your too afraid to debate the main problems of HIIT cardio.

Lets ROLL SON!


Kc

Originally posted by FortifiedIron
Lets ROLL SON!


Kc

Im still waiting for Layne to prove me wrong. He ran out of here never to address me on the issue again because he knows me and Bob are right.

[FortifiedIron]

Originally posted by Yellow Jacket85
Im still waiting for Layne to prove me wrong. He ran out of here never to address me on the issue again because he knows me and Bob are right.

Id shut up before your ahead, your gunna get roasted in this discussion.


Kc

[PowerManDL]

Originally posted by Yellow Jacket85
Im still waiting for Layne to prove me wrong. He ran out of here never to address me on the issue again because he knows me and Bob are right.

Layne's already shown his proof.

Why don't you address the issue with *me* if you're so sure of yourself?

[FortifiedIron]

Btw.. whats wrong with debating this topic with Powerman or myself?


Kc

Originally posted by FortifiedIron
Btw.. whats wrong with debating this topic with Powerman or myself?


Kc

Layne is the one that started this and the whole HIT is so wonderful idea on this forum. Its sooo fun seeing his ass get handed to him.


Layne has shown ZERO proof on how it overtrains the body, what are you going to do about leg workouts and how that and overtraining plays a role in working out. As I said I believe those stuides not only address those issues but the people just did HIT cardio and no lifting weights. Real smart layne, giving us crappy research with holes in it.

HIIT not hit.

[PowerManDL]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Layne has shown ZERO proof on how it overtrains the body, what are you going to do about leg workouts and how that and overtraining plays a role in working out.

Neither have you.

As I said I believe those stuides not only address those issues but the people just did HIT cardio and no lifting weights. Real smart layne, giving us crappy research with holes in it.

It's quite effective for sprinters, who consistently mix lifting with HIIT.

Why don't you go tell them what poor condition they're in?

[FortifiedIron]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Layne is the one that started this and the whole HIT is so wonderful idea on this forum. Its sooo fun seeing his ass get handed to him.


Layne has shown ZERO proof on how it overtrains the body, what are you going to do about leg workouts and how that and overtraining plays a role in working out. As I said I believe those stuides not only address those issues but the people just did HIT cardio and no lifting weights. Real smart layne, giving us crappy research with holes in it.

Hey , its HIGH INTENSITY INTERVAL TRAINING, thats HIIT not HIT, HIT is a whole different topic id love to discuss with you.

What do you know of overtraining? Or overreaching for that matter? Your a bit behind on your research, I have YET seen anything relavent from anybody on this topic other then those Pro HIIT, so please.. attempt to prove us wrong!


Kc

Damn I need a edit button.

I should have added in how all that plays in maintaining muscle.

[FortifiedIron]

Originally posted by Yellow Jacket85
Damn I need a edit button.

I should have added in how all that plays in maintaining muscle.

whats stoping you?


Kc

Originally posted by PowerManDL
Neither have you.



It's quite effective for sprinters, who consistently mix lifting with HIIT.

Why don't you go tell them what poor condition they're in?

Last time i checked sprinters train for one thing, to run faster. Not maintain overall body muscle.


I do not need to show any research as I support Bob Chick. Its Layne mr 15 inch guns who acts tough against Pro's that needs to PROVE him wrong. Which he has miserably done.

Originally posted by FortifiedIron
whats stoping you?


Kc

Oh nothing, just the fact that Douchebags BIG H and his cronies Raprazant and others ban me as soon as I register so Its easier this way.

[FortifiedIron]

Originally posted by Yellow Jacket85
Last time i checked sprinters train for one thing, to run faster. Not maintain overall body muscle.


I do not need to show any research as I support Bob Chick. Its Layne mr 15 inch guns who acts tough against Pro's that needs to PROVE him wrong. Which he has miserably done.

You talked about all this research to prove us wrong, where is it? Does it exist? Stop being a coward and discuss this with us, if your going to take shots at Layne or us in not knowing anything then be my guest in proving us wrong, dont just say "i back up a guy that wrote an article with no ref."

Kc

[FortifiedIron]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Oh nothing, just the fact that Douchebags BIG H and his cronies Raprazant and others ban me as soon as I register so Its easier this way.

Thats your fault then.

Im still not hearing a counter argument!


Kc

[PowerManDL]

Originally posted by Yellow Jacket85
Last time i checked sprinters train for one thing, to run faster. Not maintain overall body muscle.

Congratulations. You've almost got the point.

I do not need to show any research as I support Bob Chick. Its Layne mr 15 inch guns who acts tough against Pro's that needs to PROVE him wrong. Which he has miserably done.

Err...you seem to be mistaken, about yet another thing. You're sitting on a non-existant high horse over events you've apparently deluded yourself into thinking have taken place.

Now if you'd actually care to argue as to how a sample size of n=1 at the elite level of a sport (Bob, since you don't seem that bright) translates to anyone else, when every observation (the HIIT studies) says otherwise....I'd be really glad to see it. I enjoy magic tricks.

Originally posted by FortifiedIron
Thats your fault then.

Im still not hearing a counter argument!


Kc

My purpose was that laynes research has holes in it and doesn't tell the whole story. I support Bob chick.

P.S does bob chick believein cardio on an empty stomach or not in the morning?? I didn't read his article.

[FortifiedIron]

Originally posted by PowerManDL
Congratulations. You've almost got the point.




Err...you seem to be mistaken, about yet another thing. You're sitting on a non-existant high horse over events you've apparently deluded yourself into thinking have taken place.

Now if you'd actually care to argue as to how a sample size of n=1 at the elite level of a sport (Bob, since you don't seem that bright) translates to anyone else, when every observation (the HIIT studies) says otherwise....I'd be really glad to see it. I enjoy magic tricks.

/pwned


Kc

[FortifiedIron]

Originally posted by Unregistered
My purpose was that laynes research has holes in it and doesn't tell the whole story. I support Bob chick.

What research? Please explain to me the holes in the research and please post me links to the studies to support your 'counter argument' with the holes in the science that layne, myself and others follow.

Kc

[PowerManDL]

Originally posted by Unregistered
My purpose was that laynes research has holes in it and doesn't tell the whole story. I support Bob chick.

Which is exactly why I made the point about sprinters. Sprinters *do* carry large amounts of muscle and low levels of bf.

I haven't even gotten into the point about Olympic weightlifters....those guys carry very large amounts of muscle and in non-SHW classes they are generally quite lean.

Both groups of athletes aren't very far removed from a competing BBer in terms of leanness, so that shoots the entire argument out the window.

[FortifiedIron]

Originally posted by PowerManDL
Which is exactly why I made the point about sprinters. Sprinters *do* carry large amounts of muscle and low levels of bf.

I haven't even gotten into the point about Olympic weightlifters....those guys carry very large amounts of muscle and in non-SHW classes they are generally quite lean.

Both groups of athletes aren't very far removed from a competing BBer in terms of leanness, so that shoots the entire argument out the window.

*egerly awaits for a steroid comment*

Kc

Originally posted by PowerManDL
Congratulations. You've almost got the point.




Err...you seem to be mistaken, about yet another thing. You're sitting on a non-existant high horse over events you've apparently deluded yourself into thinking have taken place.

Now if you'd actually care to argue as to how a sample size of n=1 at the elite level of a sport (Bob, since you don't seem that bright) translates to anyone else, when every observation (the HIIT studies) says otherwise....I'd be really glad to see it. I enjoy magic tricks.

LMAO thanks for the laugh I needed it.

[PowerManDL]

Originally posted by Yellow Jacket85
LMAO thanks for the laugh I needed it.

I'm glad you find yourself being made to look stupid funny. It takes a real man to laugh at his own mistakes.

Originally posted by FortifiedIron
What research? Please explain to me the holes in the research and please post me links to the studies to support your 'counter argument' with the holes in the science that layne, myself and others follow.

Kc

I have to go eat real soon.


I told you my purpose of discussion and my problems with HIIT cardio.

[FortifiedIron]

Originally posted by Yellow Jacket85
I have to go eat real soon.


I told you my purpose of discussion and my problems with HIIT cardio.

WHERE?


Kc

Originally posted by PowerManDL
I'm glad you find yourself being made to look stupid funny. It takes a real man to laugh at his own mistakes.

Nah im laughing because you think your real smart and don't even understand what Im saying.