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Old 02-20-2004, 04:34 PM   #1
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Jason Bennett - The New Two-Week Plan!

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Old 02-21-2004, 12:06 PM   #2
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Thumbs down Overtraining

This is a ridiculous routine. OVERTRAINING
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overtraining?
What's your routine small-shot. You have absolutely no idea what over training is. And if you are overtraining, then you are under eating and under resting
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Old 02-22-2004, 11:16 AM   #4
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What's your routine small-shot. You have absolutely no idea what over training is. And if you are overtraining, then you are under eating and under resting
Whatever GURU.
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What's your routine small-shot. You have absolutely no idea what over training is. And if you are overtraining, then you are under eating and under resting
Here we go again with ignorant comments.
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That is what I am thinking. If you have nothing positive to say, don't say it. It may be over training to you, but it might be exactly what someone else needs to grow. Let them decide for themselves.
If big daddy would have worded it

"That looks like a good routine, but it would be over training for me."

That would have been cool.

Can't we all just get along?
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Hey guys, this is Jason, the author of the article everyone hates.

I think we all need to start being nicer to each other, we'll all on the same team working towards the same goal of getting big. I am sure some of you don't like what I write, and thats fine, I can't please everyone. I just hope to make a few happy and help a couple folks that like to lift weights.

But I do have one question for Big Daddy:
How do you know that's over training? Why is it ridiculous?
Have you tried this workout?

Seems like you just hate me, and not what I wrote. Like you already have the impression that whatever I write is going suck. But maybe instead of flaming me, give my routine a chance. Maybe it will work for, or maybe it will be over training for you, but at least try it before you tell the world that is sucks.

I don't know though. Good luck lifting fellas.

Also, if you guys haven't tried Juiced Creating by Pinnacle, try it out. I think it works well.
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Old 02-24-2004, 04:42 PM   #8
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Hey guys, this is Jason, the author of the article everyone hates.

I think we all need to start being nicer to each other, we'll all on the same team working towards the same goal of getting big. I am sure some of you don't like what I write, and thats fine, I can't please everyone. I just hope to make a few happy and help a couple folks that like to lift weights.

But I do have one question for Big Daddy:
How do you know that's over training? Why is it ridiculous?
Have you tried this workout?

Seems like you just hate me, and not what I wrote. Like you already have the impression that whatever I write is going suck. But maybe instead of flaming me, give my routine a chance. Maybe it will work for, or maybe it will be over training for you, but at least try it before you tell the world that is sucks.

I don't know though. Good luck lifting fellas.

Also, if you guys haven't tried Juiced Creating by Pinnacle, try it out. I think it works well.
Lets get back to one of your articles "Stick with the Basics" where you insult every single person that make comments about your article. I'm in the US NAVY and you called yourself a Lieutenant in the Air Force. Do you think this is the right way to act like a military professional? Right now I have no sympathy for you as a member of the Air Force. I give you a good credit for other articles that you wrote, but to my point of view this article is a wasting time, my personal opinion. I being there before and I make the same mistakes in my workout and I learn from my mistakes. One of my first workouts when I was 17 years old was like the one you wrote here. Dont get me wrong I gain about 20 pounds in 2 months but after that I screw up myself. I dont try new routines others than the one I wrote for myself base on my experience. The only routines that I tried besides those that I wrote are "MAX-O, HST, and German Volume Training" with nice results. Right now I'm doing very well with my workout after being out for about 6 months due to a repair of 4 hernias in less that a year, 2 inguinal and 1 umbilical back in June next year and another inguinal that came out a month later after my first surgery and was fixed last January ( is SUCKS). We need to be more careful when we try to teach those beginners and intermediate bodybuilders in how is the best way to achieve better results. I dont hate you and I dont have anything against you, I have no reason for that, but WE need to conduct ourselves in the proper way and when you insults other people because they dont agree with your points of view (in your article Stick With The Basics) you are not making good business.
We are in the same team here and I dont want you to please every one in this forum, just be nice and people will appreciate that, and when some one dont agree with you about your articles, dont get mad, life is beautiful. Is a lot of "GURUS" here without any knowledge. Keep writing your articles base of your knowledge and experience, which is all about, and remember that every body is different and reacts different to specific workouts or routines. Good luck

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That is what I am thinking. If you have nothing positive to say, don't say it. It may be over training to you, but it might be exactly what someone else needs to grow. Let them decide for themselves.
If big daddy would have worded it

"That looks like a good routine, but it would be over training for me."

That would have been cool.

Can't we all just get along?
I think is overtraining from my point of view. Sorry that I cant agree with you guys.
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Yea I said some rude comments in the past when reacting based on emotion instead of reason. I have apologized to everyone (I think/hope).

I don't know, as long as people are lifting weights and not getting fat, we're in there
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Yea I said some rude comments in the past when reacting based on emotion instead of reason. I have apologized to everyone (I think/hope).

I don't know, as long as people are lifting weights and not getting fat, we're in there
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But I do have one question for Big Daddy:
How do you know that's over training? Why is it ridiculous?
Have you tried this workout?
Well take a look at what you're doing with the amount of training. It was smart to use the logic that certain muscle groups get worked quite a bit when working larger muscle groups. However, you didn't take that into account when really desining your program.

Biceps for example. If we use your reasoning as mentioned before, that would add up to 45 sets per week for your biceps. That is beyond excessive. And if you look at relitive % of respective 1 rms. you have people training their biceps and triceps with more intensity than their legs.

And your rationale for "light" biceps/triceps day was to "pump" more blood. However, that is a misconception that should have died a long time ago. The full, tight feling your muscle get during a work out is actually due to local ischemia, or a lack of blood flow that results from increased intramusclular pressure from repeated contraction - Not more blood entering muscle cells.

I've been writing for BB.com for about 3 years now and the one thing that has surprised me is the dramatic shift in the quality of writers that have appeared since I started way back when. Today, there are more people like myself, Big cat, layne norton, and yes even claton south who who have worked very hard to provided reasoning and rationale to everything. We have tried to get everyone away from following every training program that they see the local gym rats doing because "It 'Works' for them"

I think A little more thought and planning could have gone into this program before you submitted it.
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Are you bashing my article in anyway?

I don't think its cool you say I am not a quality writer like Layne Norton, Big Cat and yourself. We have our different styles of writing and different bodybuilding goals. I have my own opinion of you three and your literature, and while its not a good one I don't offer it to the world like you have done so. For you to say my articles aren't as beneficial as yours to the general bodybuilding population shows your lack of expertise in the arena of bodybuilding. I have found more that the people that call them experts at anything are the ones that know the least. I am always the first to admit I know nothing and always need to learn. Like the one kid who wrote about bracketing his workouts with certain supplements, I have been lifting for years and have never heard of that term or the idea, and now I know.

Alot of thought and alot of planning went into the article because it took me awhile to devise that routine that has worked so well for me. My arms, while you say are being overtrained, have improved drastically, not to mention my legs.

My standing in this reply is not to be mean, but again to let you and everyone else know that while what I write may not work for you, self proclaimed expert, it may work for someone out there. And, if it helps one, and only one person to acheive their goals, my mission has been accomplished.

Your comment about you, Layne and Big Cat trying to get people not to do what the local gym rats do because it works for them, speaks for itself about your entire character and self efficacy


Again, I am not flaming, but alittle more thought and planning could have went into your response.
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Are you bashing my article in anyway?

I don't think its cool you say I am not a quality writer like Layne Norton, Big Cat and yourself. We have our different styles of writing and different bodybuilding goals. I have my own opinion of you three and your literature, and while its not a good one I don't offer it to the world like you have done so. For you to say my articles aren't as beneficial as yours to the general bodybuilding population shows your lack of expertise in the arena of bodybuilding. I have found more that the people that call them experts at anything are the ones that know the least. I am always the first to admit I know nothing and always need to learn. Like the one kid who wrote about bracketing his workouts with certain supplements, I have been lifting for years and have never heard of that term or the idea, and now I know.

Alot of thought and alot of planning went into the article because it took me awhile to devise that routine that has worked so well for me. My arms, while you say are being overtrained, have improved drastically, not to mention my legs.

My standing in this reply is not to be mean, but again to let you and everyone else know that while what I write may not work for you, self proclaimed expert, it may work for someone out there. And, if it helps one, and only one person to acheive their goals, my mission has been accomplished.

Your comment about you, Layne and Big Cat trying to get people not to do what the local gym rats do because it works for them, speaks for itself about your entire character and self efficacy


Again, I am not flaming, but alittle more thought and planning could have went into your response.
<<<Are you bashing my article in anyway?>>>>

No. I think you could have put more thought into the grouping, order, frequency and volume of the training program.

<<<<For you to say my articles aren't as beneficial as yours to the general bodybuilding population >>>

never said that and never implied it. Now you are putting words into my mouth.

<<<My arms, while you say are being overtrained, have improved drastically, not to mention my legs.>>>

At no point did I say that they wouldn't improve. Did I? Overtraining - You're doing more work than you need to to obtain the same results.

<<<<Your comment about you, Layne and Big Cat trying to get people not to do what the local gym rats do because it works for them, speaks for itself about your entire character and self efficacy>>>

Now you're making assumptions again. I never said not to do what this guy does or doesn't do. Should we all do what Said Gym rat does because he is big. For example. Art Atwood Works out at the same gym I do. Should everyone there do what he does because he is big and think they can achive what he has? No. Is it beacuse I think Art is not a smart guy, has no real clue what he is doing? No. Matter of fact, hes a nice guy and has a bachelors degree in kinesiology. But him being big has nothing to do with his workout. or how smart he is.


<<<but again to let you and everyone else know that while what I write may not work for you, self proclaimed expert it may work for someone out there. And, if it helps one, and only one person to acheive their goals, my mission has been accomplished>>

For one, I've never called myself an expert in anything. if you are reffering to the graphic on my main page, the web designer made it . I had no input into that at all.

Sure soem people may have a goal other than putting on the most amount of muscle in the shortest amount of time, but there are few. I wasn't "Bashing" you at all. The point of the Article reveiw section is to provide feedback so the author can make the next article better. Thats what I did. I'm sorry if you took it personally.

My point was that BB.com has seen a shift in the type of information that is beign presented. It used to be a lot of opinions and observation about what has "worked" for a particular person. Now the focus has left opinon and moved towords facts and science. There is nothing wrong with opinion, but when you give place it in a place like this for people to read and critique, you should expect people to read and critique it as I have.

So I'll say it again, my previous comments and the ones here are not Directed at you personally. But towards the article and subject matter at hand.
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Expert?

Who is expert here in BB? Charles Poliquin, Ron Harris, Dipascuale, Dave Drapper,.......... those people are experts. WE are not experts. Let stop calling some people here expert when they are not even close to be one. We are a good team that sometimes we write good articles and sometimes not. We are not GURUS or EXPERTS, let stop that. If you think you are a GURU or EXPERT you are making fool of yourself. Let learn from eachother and make nice comments, that way we dont scared those new guys and future athletes.

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