str8flexed's lipoderm ultra/contest prep thread

**str8flexed** · 01-23-2004, 02:43 PM

http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=10&t=7861&

enjoy

Ginobili · 01-23-2004, 02:54 PM

Good luck bro.

Tkarrde · 01-23-2004, 04:08 PM

Cool deal.

jhov · 01-23-2004, 05:30 PM

Good luck to you bro!
Do you usually take 20 weeks to cutt for a show or is it just because you are using the lipo?
peace
j

Dedicated1 · 01-23-2004, 05:33 PM

No way U R 12.05%. Judging by your pics, U got to be sub 10%. Me thinks U where ripping skin out to take those measurements. I think U R being to hard on yourself, go give yourself a hug.

**str8flexed** · 01-23-2004, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by Dedicated1
No way U R 12.05%. Judging by your pics, U got to be sub 10%. Me thinks U where ripping skin out to take those measurements. I think U R being to hard on yourself, go give yourself a hug.

that's the problem, people are too easy on themselves when they do bodyfat measurements. Normal caliper measurements are at least 3% too low.
-Layne

Dedicated1 · 01-23-2004, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by str8flexed
that's the problem, people are too easy on themselves when they do bodyfat measurements. Normal caliper measurements are at least 3% too low.
-Layne

That may be true, but judging by your physique, I still say U R too hard on yourself. There is no way U R up at 12%, unless U got some enormous belly. I would have guessed 8%-10%.

NextGenFighter · 01-23-2004, 06:57 PM

so you are going to do 4 squirts twice a day and then do 8 squirts twice a day? for how long ? and how many bottles should last you the cycle, also, whens the best time to apply the stuff, thanks, im thinking about using lipoderm ultra.

**str8flexed** · 01-23-2004, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by Dedicated1
That may be true, but judging by your physique, I still say U R too hard on yourself. There is no way U R up at 12%, unless U got some enormous belly. I would have guessed 8%-10%.

No I don't have a huge gut. Like I said everyone is too easy on themselves and thus we all have wacked out ideas of what bodyfat % are like. I've seen people who say they are 8% and aren't a shade under 15%. I'm 12% right now and I can see 3 obliques on each side and all my abdominals (not razor sharp mind you, but I can see them).

People just like to stroke their own egos and it keeps them from progressing.

Dedicated1 · 01-23-2004, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by str8flexed
No I don't have a huge gut. Like I said everyone is too easy on themselves and thus we all have wacked out ideas of what bodyfat % are like. I've seen people who say they are 8% and aren't a shade under 15%. I'm 12% right now and I can see 3 obliques on each side and all my abdominals (not razor sharp mind you, but I can see them).

People just like to stroke their own egos and it keeps them from progressing.

If U can see your obliques, more than likely U R sub 10%. 15% under the shade of a tree. Thats good stuff. U R doing really good. Dont sweat it.

u5711 · 01-23-2004, 07:43 PM

Where are these pics?

Dedicated1 · 01-23-2004, 07:50 PM

I should add, 220lbs is nothing to sneeze at. With the right body composition of course, which U have.

**str8flexed** · 01-24-2004, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by u5711
Where are these pics?

http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=52&t=7308&

Douche_Nutz · 01-24-2004, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by str8flexed
http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=52&t=7308&

DAMN that is one of the most amazing things I have seen in a while. HUGE congrats Layne.

Jimmy_magix · 01-24-2004, 04:56 AM

Can't wait to see you in contest shape bro, your chest is going to look crazy

**97LT1** · 01-24-2004, 06:51 AM

Awesome Layne. Keep making us proud big boy.

**str8flexed** · 01-24-2004, 08:45 AM

thanks guys

MYNAMEIZGREG · 01-24-2004, 10:17 AM

Damn... Layne you should definetely post those in the Teen forum so you let everyone in there know it's possible to do it natural.

**str8flexed** · 01-24-2004, 10:28 AM

I'd rather not... as it is, the maturity level of the supplement section is suspect.
-Layne

Tkarrde · 01-24-2004, 07:30 PM

D.i.e.s.e.l. my friend

More dedication than anyone I know

NextGenFighter · 01-25-2004, 12:48 PM

layne, for the lipoderm ultra, are you doing 4 / 8 squirts twice a day?? also when is the best time to apply it and how many bottles will last u the cycle ?

**str8flexed** · 01-25-2004, 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by Tkarrde
D.i.e.s.e.l. my friend

More dedication than anyone I know

Thanks Justin

I started out with 4 squirts per day and will slowly move up to 8 over the next week

Tkarrde · 01-26-2004, 08:18 AM

Excellent.

Can you highlight measurement updates by posting them over here as well, as you notice them?

Thanks L.

Lonny · 01-26-2004, 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by str8flexed
http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=10&t=7861&

enjoy

Come on, now its time to tell everyone the truth......

how much glutamine are you using?

**str8flexed** · 01-26-2004, 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by Tkarrde
Excellent.

Can you highlight measurement updates by posting them over here as well, as you notice them?

Thanks L.

will do justin

Tkarrde · 01-26-2004, 11:01 AM

Thanks

Dedicated1 · 01-26-2004, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lonny
Come on, now its time to tell everyone the truth......

how much glutamine are you using?

rofl

**str8flexed** · 01-29-2004, 11:31 AM

01/28/04

weight- 213 lbs

3 site bodyfat measurement (took 5 at each site and the averages are as follows)

average chest skinfold- 11.0 mm (-3.2mm)

average abdominal skinfold- 13.8 mm (+0.4mm) (could be slight water retention from yohimbine)

average quadracep skinfold- 17.2 mm (+2.0mm)

average bodyfat measurement- 11.80% bodyfat

muscle measurements

calves- 16 3/8"
thighs- 26.75"
chest (unflexed)- 46.75"
shoulders- 54"
arms- 17.5"
waist- 34"

-Layne "back on my feet, like a freight train I'm coming!"

Twin Peak · 01-29-2004, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by str8flexed
No I don't have a huge gut. Like I said everyone is too easy on themselves and thus we all have wacked out ideas of what bodyfat % are like. I've seen people who say they are 8% and aren't a shade under 15%. I'm 12% right now and I can see 3 obliques on each side and all my abdominals (not razor sharp mind you, but I can see them).

People just like to stroke their own egos and it keeps them from progressing.

Agreed Layne. When I am 15% or so, with a nice size gut (genetics) everyone says I am full of it and closer to 10%. Don't think so.

Twin Peak · 01-29-2004, 12:28 PM

Layne, for ****s and giggles, I am going to add in my recent stats, to illustrate how differently we are built.

weight- 213 lbs

TP = 212

3 site bodyfat measurement (took 5 at each site and the averages are as follows)

average chest skinfold- 11.0 mm

TP = 12

average abdominal skinfold- 13.8 mm

TP = 17

average quadracep skinfold- 17.2 mm

TP = 12

average bodyfat measurement- 11.80% bodyfat

TP = 12%

muscle measurements

calves- 16 3/8"

TP = 16.5

thighs- 26.75"

arms- 17.5"

TP = 17.5

waist- 34"

TP = 38"

Okay, so not that different. Actually, very much the same, except that I have a fat gut, and you have chunky legs.