Alan E. Shugarman, M.S., R.D. - Ephedrine Is SAFE!

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I dont really need to post an educated reply on this cause Alan E. Shugarman seemed to throw away all the FACTS. Unless, this whole article was prompted by BB.com to serve the pharmaceutical companies that power up the site. the FDA has just banned ephedra yesterday, and this whole media stunt is just plain rediculous, by bb.com that is. The drug has cause more than 100, 000 deaths,.. now dont quote me on that but people know the drug is dangerous. Now, Alan, says if people want the FDA to ban so called 'dangerous' drugs then they should start with aspirin...?? what? are u on drugs?? yeah let me guess Prozac? I'm coming from a biochemistry background,.. and I can tell you this,... if ur aming for those neanderthal look-alike athletes then keep on going, because more and more people know what they're putting inside the systems. and we dont need some stupid nerdy kid like you to tell us to filter what the media is saying. f*&^%$# hypocrite!!

[lucubration]

Originally posted by lean_frk
I dont really need to post an educated reply on this cause Alan E. Shugarman seemed to throw away all the FACTS. Unless, this whole article was prompted by BB.com to serve the pharmaceutical companies that power up the site. the FDA has just banned ephedra yesterday, and this whole media stunt is just plain rediculous, by bb.com that is. The drug has cause more than 100, 000 deaths,.. now dont quote me on that but people know the drug is dangerous. Now, Alan, says if people want the FDA to ban so called 'dangerous' drugs then they should start with aspirin...?? what? are u on drugs?? yeah let me guess Prozac? I'm coming from a biochemistry background,.. and I can tell you this,... if ur aming for those neanderthal look-alike athletes then keep on going, because more and more people know what they're putting inside the systems. and we dont need some stupid nerdy kid like you to tell us to filter what the media is saying. f*&^%$# hypocrite!!

the effects of Reye's syndrome have killed a lot of people.
100,00 you say? of course I will not quote you.....

I do not believe you have a strong foundation in biochemistry.

That said, ephedra is **** but so is caffeine. Not to mention clear poisons like alcohol and nicotine which are quite legal. IMO, Americans should retain autonomy over their own bodies and mind and they should fight when it is encroached.

[Woden]

Originally posted by lucubration
the effects of Reye's syndrome have killed a lot of people.
100,00 you say? of course I will not quote you.....

I do not believe you have a strong foundation in biochemistry.

That said, ephedra is **** but so is caffeine. Not to mention clear poisons like alcohol and nicotine which are quite legal. IMO, Americans should retain autonomy over their own bodies and mind and they should fight when it is encroached.

HUGE BUMP. It's time for the goverment to stop sticking their grimy little fingers in our business.

I won't go too harsh against people "freaking" out that ephedra is unsafe but let me say that when you have 40% of the populace of North-America consuming cannabis and/or alcohol regularly, I think ephedra is not such a threat to health.

Instead of taking 9 cups of coffee a day Mr. sit behind your desk all day, please consider 1 pill containing ephedra to replace that habit.

Sincerely yours,
Someone who uses a brain to think

[Ashkon]

Originally posted by Unregistered
I won't go too harsh against people "freaking" out that ephedra is unsafe but let me say that when you have 40% of the populace of North-America consuming cannabis and/or alcohol regularly, I think ephedra is not such a threat to health.

Instead of taking 9 cups of coffee a day Mr. sit behind your desk all day, please consider 1 pill containing ephedra to replace that habit.

Sincerely yours,
Someone who uses a brain to think

Ephedera is simply banned because ppl abuse the drug. There is a **** loud of lists of why you should not take the pill in under specefic conditions, and ppl yet due and we get ****ed over for it. Ephedra is not "dangerous" as I have read at least a dozen of articles researching about it. It is completely safe if you use it correctly.

[stephanos]

Informative article, and the media obviously greatly exaggerates the ill-efects of ephedra. And as the other posters said, what about alcohol and nicotine?

However, the case for caffeine and ephedra as a viable combatant against obesity completely destroyed your argument, for me. All you are encouraging is a chemical reliance on these products, rather than developing an effective nutrition and fitness plan that will give these people a *lifestyle* that they can rely on, not some questionable chemical products.

You shout conspiracy theory at the FDA, yet you yourself work for the supplement industry, so you obviously have a vested interest, and an unhealthy bias, in anything that encroaches on that 1994 act. From someone with a background in chemistry and biology, I would have hoped for some information about how ephedrine is chemically very similar to another chemical product that will increase energy and lead to fat loss, yet no one is recommending this one -- meth-amphetamine.

It's time for everyone to stop looking to the FDA and the government to tell them what to eat and what to take and what to believe. It's also time for everyone to stop looking for quick fixes to what, in obesity, is a huge problem. I am not aiming this at professional bodybuilders looking to shred that last pound or two of fat before a contest. But, for the general public, the last thing they need is to put their fat loss hopes in the unethical recommendation of 600mg of caffeine and 60mg of ephedra daily.

[str8flexed]

Originally posted by lean_frk
I dont really need to post an educated reply on this cause Alan E. Shugarman seemed to throw away all the FACTS. Unless, this whole article was prompted by BB.com to serve the pharmaceutical companies that power up the site. the FDA has just banned ephedra yesterday, and this whole media stunt is just plain rediculous, by bb.com that is. The drug has cause more than 100, 000 deaths,.. now dont quote me on that but people know the drug is dangerous. Now, Alan, says if people want the FDA to ban so called 'dangerous' drugs then they should start with aspirin...?? what? are u on drugs?? yeah let me guess Prozac? I'm coming from a biochemistry background,.. and I can tell you this,... if ur aming for those neanderthal look-alike athletes then keep on going, because more and more people know what they're putting inside the systems. and we dont need some stupid nerdy kid like you to tell us to filter what the media is saying. f*&^%$# hypocrite!!

you are an idiot. Ephedra has not been proven to have caused so much as one death... NOT ONE. NOT ONE autopsy has concluded that "death was caused by.... from ephedra usage." About 100 (not 100,000 you moron) correlated deaths have occurred, meaning people were taking it and they died... this does not mean it killed them. How many people have died and were taking aspirin.

Furthermore, the pharmaceutical companies SUPPORT THIS BAN! Do you realize that even though ephedra the supplement is banned, it is still available in non-prescription cold medicines, you don't think the pharmaceutical company has a stake in this ban? Now the pharmaceutical companies have a monopoly on this stuff, while the supplement companies get ass ****ed.

Before you open your damned mouth again make sure have an inkling of an idea of WHAT THE **** YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!

[lucubration]

Originally posted by stephanos
It's time for everyone to stop looking to the FDA and the government to tell them what to eat and what to take and what to believe. It's also time for everyone to stop looking for quick fixes to what, in obesity, is a huge problem. I am not aiming this at professional bodybuilders looking to shred that last pound or two of fat before a contest. But, for the general public, the last thing they need is to put their fat loss hopes in the unethical recommendation of 600mg of caffeine and 60mg of ephedra daily.

Agreed and agreed.

[physique]

Originally posted by Ashkon
Ephedera is simply banned because ppl abuse the drug. There is a **** loud of lists of why you should not take the pill in under specefic conditions, and ppl yet due and we get ****ed over for it. Ephedra is not "dangerous" as I have read at least a dozen of articles researching about it. It is completely safe if you use it correctly.

and this is different how?? when comparing alcohol and cigarettes??
according to what u wrote these two things should be banned aswell!!

and for the other dorks posting that ephedra has killed people, show soem proof!! and dont say steve bechler.

THE PEOPLE WHO USE EPHEDRA RESPONSABLY SHOULDNT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THOSE FEW IDIOTS THAT CANT READ THE WARNING ON THE SIDE OF THE BOTTLE! ESPECIALLY THE PART ABOUT ASKING YOUR DOCTORS ADVISE!

[Ashkon]

Originally posted by physique
and this is different how?? when comparing alcohol and cigarettes??
according to what u wrote these two things should be banned aswell!!

and for the other dorks posting that ephedra has killed people, show soem proof!! and dont say steve bechler.

THE PEOPLE WHO USE EPHEDRA RESPONSABLY SHOULDNT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THOSE FEW IDIOTS THAT CANT READ THE WARNING ON THE SIDE OF THE BOTTLE! ESPECIALLY THE PART ABOUT ASKING YOUR DOCTORS ADVISE!

haill yah ciggiz and alcohol should be banned if theyr banning ephedra.

This government SUX! While bak they began recommanding low fat diets for best results in fatloss. People started avoiding fats and what happend? They got fatter.

Although I understand the concern associated with losing access to such an effective chemical, I agree with the FDA on this one. I tried using ephedra once while lifting and within a few minutes of taking it, my heart started to feel very weird, like it was skipping contractions or something. I got pretty light-headed and had to take it easy for a few minutes. I havent touched it since.
I'm not sure if it could have actually killed me, but it is a very potent substance and should not be sold OTC.

[Ashkon]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Although I understand the concern associated with losing access to such an effective chemical, I agree with the FDA on this one. I tried using ephedra once while lifting and within a few minutes of taking it, my heart started to feel very weird, like it was skipping contractions or something. I got pretty light-headed and had to take it easy for a few minutes. I havent touched it since.
I'm not sure if it could have actually killed me, but it is a very potent substance and should not be sold OTC.

That's because you took too much for your first try.

[axelism]

Originally posted by str8flexed
you are an idiot. Ephedra has not been proven to have caused so much as one death... NOT ONE. NOT ONE autopsy has concluded that "death was caused by.... from ephedra usage." About 100 (not 100,000 you moron) correlated deaths have occurred, meaning people were taking it and they died... this does not mean it killed them. How many people have died and were taking aspirin.

I agree with you, the same holds true to the drug mdma(ecstasy). Ecstasy has NEVER contributed to one death by itself.

The two most common marketing scams are the terms "appetite suppressant" and "rapid weight loss" Instead of banning ephedra they should ban these and similar terms in connection to health

The most common myth of obesity is quantity over quality This is demonstrated by the common speech of the obese person saying things like "I eat too much" or "If I ate less I could get in better shape" It is not how much you eat but what you eat Complex carbs should be taken in more Simple carbs should be taken in less Essential Fat should be taken in more and nonessential fat less

Add this to the problem that people are encouraged to "lose weight" instead of decrease their body fat index So people suffer from malnutrition and anxiety disorders from following all these myths as fact

As usual education is a better solution then education But then everyone would lose MONEY and thats Businesses or Government cares about So the health industry says appetite supressents and rapid weight loss are benificial and that lie is more dangerous then any supplement they sell but hey supplements sell easier then excercise The pharmacutical companies of course push research that says herbs and supplements are lethal when the truth is pharmacuticals are the most dangerous substances available Ever hear of Hydrocan? Well it is FDA approved supplement and list DEATH as a side effect So you cant trust the government either way They play both sides of the fence taking money from each They get money from pharmacuticals so wont let a little side effect like death slow them down At the same time they want to take Ephedra off the market but allow the words "lose weight quickly and safely" as well as "appetite suppressant safe and effective" appear on lables of health products when appetite suppressing is in no way part of a healthy diet or plan for weight loss and losing weight quickly is established as neither safe or effective in creating a healthy body

There is my two cents Try not to eat them to get a buzz ok

PS Yeah we know teenagers eat legal speed such as Ephedra and Guarana to help their study habits instead of sleeping or cutting down consumption of alcohol But thats another story isnt it ? By the way caffiene only helps short term memory in test taking It neither increase longterm memory or learning capacity No wonder so many doctors are facing malpractice suits They probably crammed for test using legal speed and only retained enough to get by

Feel free to email me at brgordon32@hotmail.com but it might take awhile for an answer because I have powerful spam filters on that account and rarely check my junk mail

I forgot to add that since muscle weighs more than fat and working out tends to increase muscle; ...weight loss and muscle increase (including toning the body for women) are a conflict of interest I can not count how many people who came to me panicking when they first started working out claiming that their weight wasnt going down or was worse yet going up I had to patiently explain the muscle weighs more then fat principle If you gain muscle more quickly then you lose fat it could create the illusion that you are gaining weight when in reality although your over all weight might have increased you are still healthier since extra fat is the problem not muscle Also some women wont accept that women have more body fat then men and a little more fat on you than your man might be more healthy and even more attractive if you are reasonably toned and eat healthy and excercise There is a certain body fat to muscle ratio that needs to be paid attentio to REAL scales measure this ratio not just weight In fact it is more important then weight as I have pointed out already in various ways brgordon32@hotmail.com (spamfiltered)

"As usual education is a better solution then education"

should read

"As usual education is a better solution then legislation"