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Jesse Cannone - Why Walking Won't Cut It For Fat Loss!
With obesity and disease increasing dramatically, many fitness experts are recommending walking for weight loss and fitness. Some are even going so far as saying that walking is the best way to burn fat and lose weight. I strongly disagree with this and am going to show you why walking is NOT effective at burning off body fat.
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10-25-2003, 04:30 PM
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Very nice article and I totally aggree. I don't necessarily believe that extreme high intensity cardio is the answer but working near one's capacity is more appropriate I believe. HIIT seems to be the most reasonable answer to the delema of fat loss exercise.
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10-26-2003, 01:22 AM
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I didnt read the article but...
With the writer's certifications, I would hope he would be able to think critically, unfortunately it dosn't seem so.
Experts recomend walking to many people, especially the overweight because of many reasons
1 Dosnt need much motivation. If you told the average obese American person to run 5 miles per day do you think they would follow these recommendations or just lay back down on the couch and eat some chips? Most of these people do not WANT to exercise, walking is something that does not require much motivation or prior experience.
2 Many people who are overweight are not agile, especially those in their late 30's and onward who have been sedentary for the past few years and put on alot of fat. Walking would be best for them until they feel they need to progress into running or something else to acquire further physical stimulation.
3 The elderly aren't likely to go out and do some high intensity cardio.
4 Experts are telling people to walk that are STARTING OUT with an exercise and nutrition program. If the people getting these recommendations could already perform some type of cardio at high intensities then they likely don't need fitness counselling.
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10-26-2003, 01:54 PM
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references r essential in such articles
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10-27-2003, 08:29 PM
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Re: I didnt read the article but...
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With the writer's certifications, I would hope he would be able to think critically, unfortunately it dosn't seem so.
Experts recomend walking to many people, especially the overweight because of many reasons
1 Dosnt need much motivation. If you told the average obese American person to run 5 miles per day do you think they would follow these recommendations or just lay back down on the couch and eat some chips? Most of these people do not WANT to exercise, walking is something that does not require much motivation or prior experience.
2 Many people who are overweight are not agile, especially those in their late 30's and onward who have been sedentary for the past few years and put on alot of fat. Walking would be best for them until they feel they need to progress into running or something else to acquire further physical stimulation.
3 The elderly aren't likely to go out and do some high intensity cardio.
4 Experts are telling people to walk that are STARTING OUT with an exercise and nutrition program. If the people getting these recommendations could already perform some type of cardio at high intensities then they likely don't need fitness counselling.
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they recommend it b/c people are lazy. Pure and simple... tell someone they have to work hard and they ball up into a fetal position til they cry their candy-asses to sleep. Fact of the matter is that high intensity cardio is MUCH better than low intensity cardio at mobilizing adipose tissue oxidation.
Unfortunately hard work doesn't sell books are programs so they claim that walking is enough or even superior so people will buy their crap (yes most of it is crap) and even though they don't get results they think they are getting so much out of it.
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10-27-2003, 08:36 PM
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I need to look more into this low intensity cardio vs. high. But i'm inclined to agree with str8flexed from what i've read.
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10-27-2003, 11:58 PM
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have you guys ever walked for long periods of time before? It really is very effective for burning fat, if done for long enough and done everyday. look at flex wheeler, all he did was walk on a treadmill for his cardio, and i bet none of you looked like him.
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10-28-2003, 12:08 AM
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I think it was d same deal for Ronnie.
He did an hour when he woke up, empty stomache.
And an hour before he went to sleep infront of his TV
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10-28-2003, 06:29 AM
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Quote:
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I think it was d same deal for Ronnie.
He did an hour when he woke up, empty stomache.
And an hour before he went to sleep infront of his TV
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god; i'm not even going to get into why this is a rediculous statement. Unless your on the drugs ronnie is on; comparing your methods of fat loss to his are like comparing apples and watermelons. Yes, walking can burn fat; but it is not near as EFFECTIVE as high intensity cardio. Go to the nutrition section and read the sticky entitled "morning cardio", I'm tired of repeating myself on this issue.
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10-28-2003, 06:51 AM
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Clarification...
From the article: ""For example, fast walking up and down hills may be high intensity for you... it all depends. So don't think that you have to start running or something like that.""
The issue is intensity not activity. I walk faster than most people at my club "run" or jog. Running can be very bad for a lot of people physiologically (knees, hips, organs, etc) unless they have perfected their gait.
Most sprinters weight train while most marathoners don't. Sprinters don't get their lower body musculature just on the track. Comparing the average BB'er to a sprinter is no different than all the Coleman comparisons.
You have to know your resting heart rate and do a little math. Remember the brain is a muscle that needs training too. Keep records, track everything and learn what works for you.
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10-28-2003, 07:21 AM
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A good article that debunks the myth that walking is great for fat loss, since it uses mostly fat calories.
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Re: Clarification...
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Originally posted by rayk1029
From the article: ""For example, fast walking up and down hills may be high intensity for you... it all depends. So don't think that you have to start running or something like that.""
The issue is intensity not activity. I walk faster than most people at my club "run" or jog. Running can be very bad for a lot of people physiologically (knees, hips, organs, etc) unless they have perfected their gait.
Most sprinters weight train while most marathoners don't. Sprinters don't get their lower body musculature just on the track. Comparing the average BB'er to a sprinter is no different than all the Coleman comparisons.
You have to know your resting heart rate and do a little math. Remember the brain is a muscle that needs training too. Keep records, track everything and learn what works for you.
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yes everyone must have things that work in a totally different way for their body eh? Since our DNA sequences are 99.99% identical
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10-28-2003, 09:29 AM
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Re: Re: Clarification...
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yes everyone must have things that work in a totally different way for their body eh? Since our DNA sequences are 99.99% identical
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Well, if different bodies didn't react differently to different stimuli and different modalities of training and diet, there would not be a need for over 50 male authors of articles on this site. All we need is one super swole guru. Whatever worked for him will work for everyone.
From what I have learned, there are three different somatypes with a number of variations among them. Some people have more/less lung capacity than others which can affect fat metabolism based on oxygen uptake and usage. Some one with weak legs will exert much more effort than someone with strong legs doing the same aerobic activity for the same amount of time. And the ratio of fat to lean mass affects fat metabolism.
Just because the genetic makeup is the same doesn't mean there are not a number of other factors which affect metabolic processes in the body.
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10-28-2003, 09:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by str8flexed
god; i'm not even going to get into why this is a rediculous statement. Unless your on the drugs ronnie is on; comparing your methods of fat loss to his are like comparing apples and watermelons. Yes, walking can burn fat; but it is not near as EFFECTIVE as high intensity cardio. Go to the nutrition section and read the sticky entitled "morning cardio", I'm tired of repeating myself on this issue.
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One of my training partners has discontinued the tradition of bulking and cutting. After his cutting phase, for about 7 months now, he has continued what I stated Ronnie does. He is a drug free athelet and weighs 205ish pounds. He has gained alot in the past few months and yet has not increased his fat percentage. His diet is unclean as far as I know, and contains hot dogs and alot of such crap I personally avoid. He is geneticly gifted to a certain point, but my personal theory is that since cutting, he hadn't allowed fat to rise because of his walking motivation.
And about the "morning cardio", again in my theory, it isn't so catabolic for him because of his low-intensity preformence.
So might walking be an advantage to someone like him?
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10-29-2003, 10:45 AM
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I have talked with Str8 about this, and I had the "old" theory that more is better and do it in the morning before you eat. That article that Layne referenced is a great article. It debunks the theories that cardio should be done on an empty stomach. It goes into great details about cortisal levels and whatnot. A little over my head at first, but I just had to keep reading on what those things are.
Thanks to Layne, I am going to keep my hard earned muscle, and get rid of the fat. But if you do the cardio in the morning without any food and low levels of cortisal, be my guest. Like Layne said, you want a good way to lose muscle, do cardio in the morning and on an empty stomach.
Thanks Layne for helping me out there.
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10-30-2003, 08:57 AM
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no problem buddy
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Good article about cardiovascular exercises!
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Re: Re: I didnt read the article but...
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they recommend it b/c people are lazy. Pure and simple... tell someone they have to work hard and they ball up into a fetal position til they cry their candy-asses to sleep. Fact of the matter is that high intensity cardio is MUCH better than low intensity cardio at mobilizing adipose tissue oxidation.
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I disagree that walking is not very good for burning fat.
I do HIIT myself and I do it all out I can tell you that.
The problem IMO is not HIIT, it's moderate cardio. The risks of loosing muscle by doing a lot of it is high, especially on an empty stomach in the morning.
On the contrary, walking burns fat slowly and chances of loosing muscle are minimal.
Here's what I do to burn fat in record time:
- keto
- HIIT 3x/week
- walk, walk, walk.. all the time. I walk about 1h30, eat, rest a bit, do it again.. you will melt, man, if you do that..
But for that to work really well, you have to be in ketosis.
I've done many cuts on balanced diets in the past - with carbs -, with like 45 min of cardio in the morning before eating.. it has always resulted it muscle loss. I don't understand that people continue to do that.
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04-04-2004, 01:18 PM
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Re: Re: Re: I didnt read the article but...
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I disagree that walking is not very good for burning fat.
I do HIIT myself and I do it all out I can tell you that.
The problem IMO is not HIIT, it's moderate cardio. The risks of loosing muscle by doing a lot of it is high, especially on an empty stomach in the morning.
On the contrary, walking burns fat slowly and chances of loosing muscle are minimal.
Here's what I do to burn fat in record time:
- keto
- HIIT 3x/week
- walk, walk, walk.. all the time. I walk about 1h30, eat, rest a bit, do it again.. you will melt, man, if you do that..
But for that to work really well, you have to be in ketosis.
I've done many cuts on balanced diets in the past - with carbs -, with like 45 min of cardio in the morning before eating.. it has always resulted it muscle loss. I don't understand that people continue to do that.
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Why do you do HIIT on Keto?
It's too intense for this diet, and it's not recommanded.
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I take carbs before HIIT. It's hard but it's ok. I keep it short, about 12 min, which I do in 2 shots of 6 min.
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Re: Re: Re: Clarification...
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Originally posted by rayk1029
Well, if different bodies didn't react differently to different stimuli and different modalities of training and diet, there would not be a need for over 50 male authors of articles on this site. All we need is one super swole guru. Whatever worked for him will work for everyone.
From what I have learned, there are three different somatypes with a number of variations among them. Some people have more/less lung capacity than others which can affect fat metabolism based on oxygen uptake and usage. Some one with weak legs will exert much more effort than someone with strong legs doing the same aerobic activity for the same amount of time. And the ratio of fat to lean mass affects fat metabolism.
Just because the genetic makeup is the same doesn't mean there are not a number of other factors which affect metabolic processes in the body.
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BUMP.Well said
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Nice... putting pictures of the top atheltes in the world compared o a women who seems to be loking for a party at the park. That was nonsense.
Let me tell you that Racewalk is even more extreme than running. I do racewalking and before I used to run every day (10 years of practice), there is no comparisson in the intensity needed to racewalk than "simply run". I have experienced best results racewalking than running, the thing is walking simulating racewalk is not benefitial, but having a racewalk technique is the ultimate thing.
Sorry, but your totally wrong with that slick article, go racewalk and release another article.
Andres, 20 male.
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Ever seen a bodybuilder run?
I bet the person who wrote this article is about 163 pounds
Be my guest and run off your muscles.
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Ever seen a bodybuilder run?
I bet the person who wrote this article is about 163 pounds
Be my guest and run off your muscles.
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yes i have. Just because you're a bodybuilder doesn't mean you have to be unathletic
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Originally Posted by webmaster
With obesity and disease increasing dramatically, many fitness experts are recommending walking for weight loss and fitness. Some are even going so far as saying that walking is the best way to burn fat and lose weight. I strongly disagree with this and am going to show you why walking is NOT effective at burning off body fat.
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i agree, its better thna nothing though
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