Mike Mahler - Burn Fat Like A Blow Torch With High Octane Cardio (HOC)!

[webmaster]

Lets face it. Most forms of cardio training are boring. When was the last time that you got excited about getting on a stair master or a treadmill? I get bored just thinking about using one of those machines. Enter the world of High Octane Cardio (HOC) and get ready to burn fat and increase endurance like nothing that you have ever tried before.

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When will these HAB HCD HXYZ programs end?

Here is the program:


Jump rope for one minute
Ten one arm dumbbell swings with each arm
Jump rope for one minute
Ten one arm dumbbells snatches with each arm
Jump rope for one minute
Ten one arm dumbbell clean and jerks with each arm

See that dumbbell swings?

Actually that is using "kettlebells". Yes, it's written by Mike Mahler, who wants to make himself famous (and unique) with kettlebell things.

[KO-artist]

m a professional boxer and started boxing over 9 years ago. I have NEVER heard of any other boxers (including Muhammad Ali) doing this so-called "roadwork" the way this guy describes it. True boxing roadwork is meant to work on your cardiovascular system and you can also incorportate some foot/hand work into it as well. The most common roadwork is to jog at a slower pace for a certain distance as determined by your trainer, then sprint all out for a certain distance, then jog again etc.

Some old school boxers used to run at a steady pace all the way through but most fighters since the mid-70's have used the interval style of jog/sprint/jog. If anyone was to follow Mike Mahler's advice, there would be virtually no benefit to the cardio system because if you stop the jog or sprint and do pushups, situps or anything else, your heart rate slows and therefore you lose the benefit and whole purpose of roadwork.

As for swinging dumbells, I've heard of many different styles of weight training used by other boxers but NEVER anything about swinging a weight. As a figher, our shoulders get enought strain and abuse from keeping the hands up and throwing punches, so I can't imagine any boxer especially a pro doing this type of training with swinging dumbells. That would be risking injury and possibly ending a career. I even asked my trainer, who has worked with a couple of the biggest names in modern boxing, and he said that if he ever saw one of his fighters swinging a dumbell he would chew them a new a**hole.

Now there is a type of training you can do with dumbells, where you use a very light weight (5 to 10 pounds) and do a series of straight punches with them. Usually a few sets of 20 punches and NEVER fully extend the arms or use full power when doing this. After the straight punches you can do the same routine with uppercuts.

Bottom line, anyone who thinks that they'll get a boxer's physique by following Mike Mahler's routine is only fooling themselves. If you want to get in shape by doing a boxing workout, then go and get the book "The Boxer's Workout" by Peter DePasquale. It has some very sound advice and workouts that really have been used by pro fighters for decades. It's not the only workout I do, but I sure as well wouldn't recommend Mahler's program to any other boxers out there.

Chris B.

Well, who cares if Mike Mahler has found his niche in this business...not to mention the large amount of success others have found using different tools and/or techniques.

As for KO artist, does it really matter if someone describes their type of "roadwork" any differently? You can cook a chicken more than one way.

I've personally followed this HOC program and i can say that it is a challenge and your heart rate does NOT go down at all. I'd have to say that this style of trainins is definitely more beneficial to a fighter over jog/sprint/jog...this workout incorporates the endurance through jumproping/jogging, then the use of explosive power through ballistic movements, which fighters must switch between constantly.

If you haven't tried the program before you knocked it, then you must be fooling yourself.

[perldog007]

Originally Posted by KO-artist

m a professional boxer and started boxing over 9 years ago.

I even asked my trainer, who has worked with a couple of the biggest names in modern boxing, and he said that if he ever saw one of his fighters swinging a dumbell he would chew them a new a**hole.

Bottom line, anyone who thinks that they'll get a boxer's physique by following Mike Mahler's routine is only fooling themselves. It's not the only workout I do, but I sure as well wouldn't recommend Mahler's program to any other boxers out there.

Chris B.

Chris, Chris, Chris. I am sure that if we were physically sparring you would kick my ass. Forums are a battle of wits, so to speak. If you have been boxing for nine years and like to write, you probably have alot to say that would be worth reading for bodybuilding.com members. I have alot of respect for all boxers, amateur and pro. If an article starts out "I have been boxing for nine years" I am going to read with all my attention.

Mike's articles don't start out that way.

As for your trainer, would he be the first one to suffer from the "my way or the highway" syndrome? Andre Arlovski swings a clubbell, maybe your trainer better run on over and chew him a new a**hole for it.

Bottom line is that not all bodybuilders want a "boxers build". Hell I already look like the lovechild of David Bey and James Hipp. I am trying to overcome it!
I just read the article again to be sure, and I can't find any promises of HOC providing a Boxer's physique. Don't worry about endorsing MM's work, Frank Shamrock will handle that.

Be your own dog, I would like to see some articles from a fighter. My point is that we need a diversity of ideas to have the best base of training knowledge on the internet. If you vomit and pass out doing all forms of cardio except skippping through central park with a clothespin on your nose while singing "God Save the Queen", then you better move to New York and your trainer's opinion don't mean much.

"Stop hating, start participating" Vince Vaughn - in Be Cool

Now quit tearing somebody else down and build yourself up. Go to the how to be a writer page, or weigh in on a topic of the week and lay it on us.

peace,

thedog

[Mike Mahler]

Originally Posted by KO-artist

m a professional boxer and started boxing over 9 years ago. I have NEVER heard of any other boxers (including Muhammad Ali) doing this so-called "roadwork" the way this guy describes it. True boxing roadwork is meant to work on your cardiovascular system and you can also incorportate some foot/hand work into it as well. The most common roadwork is to jog at a slower pace for a certain distance as determined by your trainer, then sprint all out for a certain distance, then jog again etc.

Some old school boxers used to run at a steady pace all the way through but most fighters since the mid-70's have used the interval style of jog/sprint/jog. If anyone was to follow Mike Mahler's advice, there would be virtually no benefit to the cardio system because if you stop the jog or sprint and do pushups, situps or anything else, your heart rate slows and therefore you lose the benefit and whole purpose of roadwork.

As for swinging dumbells, I've heard of many different styles of weight training used by other boxers but NEVER anything about swinging a weight. As a figher, our shoulders get enought strain and abuse from keeping the hands up and throwing punches, so I can't imagine any boxer especially a pro doing this type of training with swinging dumbells. That would be risking injury and possibly ending a career. I even asked my trainer, who has worked with a couple of the biggest names in modern boxing, and he said that if he ever saw one of his fighters swinging a dumbell he would chew them a new a**hole.

Now there is a type of training you can do with dumbells, where you use a very light weight (5 to 10 pounds) and do a series of straight punches with them. Usually a few sets of 20 punches and NEVER fully extend the arms or use full power when doing this. After the straight punches you can do the same routine with uppercuts.

Bottom line, anyone who thinks that they'll get a boxer's physique by following Mike Mahler's routine is only fooling themselves. If you want to get in shape by doing a boxing workout, then go and get the book "The Boxer's Workout" by Peter DePasquale. It has some very sound advice and workouts that really have been used by pro fighters for decades. It's not the only workout I do, but I sure as well wouldn't recommend Mahler's program to any other boxers out there.

Chris B.

Thanks for your feedback and I never said the article is roadwork, just based the concept. Also, you clearly have never used the program before. I have plenty of combat athlete clients who use HOC and love the results. BTW, you are crazy if you think that HOC has no benefit to the cardio system. Try once and you will think otherwise.

Thanks

Mike Mahler
www.mikemahler.com

[Mike Mahler]

Originally Posted by perldog007

Chris, Chris, Chris. I am sure that if we were physically sparring you would kick my ass. Forums are a battle of wits, so to speak. If you have been boxing for nine years and like to write, you probably have alot to say that would be worth reading for bodybuilding.com members. I have alot of respect for all boxers, amateur and pro. If an article starts out "I have been boxing for nine years" I am going to read with all my attention.

Mike's articles don't start out that way.

As for your trainer, would he be the first one to suffer from the "my way or the highway" syndrome? Andre Arlovski swings a clubbell, maybe your trainer better run on over and chew him a new a**hole for it.

Bottom line is that not all bodybuilders want a "boxers build". Hell I already look like the lovechild of David Bey and James Hipp. I am trying to overcome it!
I just read the article again to be sure, and I can't find any promises of HOC providing a Boxer's physique. Don't worry about endorsing MM's work, Frank Shamrock will handle that.

Be your own dog, I would like to see some articles from a fighter. My point is that we need a diversity of ideas to have the best base of training knowledge on the internet. If you vomit and pass out doing all forms of cardio except skippping through central park with a clothespin on your nose while singing "God Save the Queen", then you better move to New York and your trainer's opinion don't mean much.

"Stop hating, start participating" Vince Vaughn - in Be Cool

Now quit tearing somebody else down and build yourself up. Go to the how to be a writer page, or weigh in on a topic of the week and lay it on us.

peace,

thedog

thanks for the support

[bloomsburypoet]

I read your article a few days ago an want to give your system a try. I know your system is based on skipping rope, hitting a punching bag and running. I study kendo and I was wondering if there was a way to incorporate kendo into it.

[ko_kidd]

I don't have any plans on doing the dumbbell stuff but I had to ask:

Has anyone trained like that before?

And is their any proof/experience to this?

I mean the most obvious example is Sylvester Stallone doing this in the Rocky Balboa movie, and I've wondered about whether or not anyone has actually trained like that (even before the movie came out).

[Club Kozak]

Swinging KB is an excellent exercise for MA. Actually many KB exercises are awesome for MA/MMA. Frank Shamrock uses them and so does Fedor Emilianenko.I use them in my routing and for my guys. The only difficulty I see with this program is the aspect of working on the bag then doing swings.If one is wearing bag gloves, you'd have to take them off to do the swings.That can kill the time, no? I think using bodyweight exercises are better, because you don't have to take off the gloves.

[TheSchwan47]

I just read your article last week, and started right into trying the workout. I tried doing 8 laps around the track with a 25 lbs. dumbbell at each of the 100 meter marks. I have to say that both times so far were the best cardio workouts I have ever done, because I enjoyed doing them. I always got bored during cardio, and it made it very hard to concentrate on my goals. This changes my focus regularly, so I just kept pushing through.

Thanks, and for anyone that believes it won't test your cardio, it really does. Just try it one time and you'll be dragging your body home. Its a great feeling.