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Dennis B. Weis - The Ultimate Strength Charge: Are You Strong Or Not?
Using the following charts, you can test your one rep maxes and finally determine if you're "Strong Or Not!"
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/weis1.htm
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06-04-2003, 01:15 PM
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Where did these numbers come from? They seem to be grossly inflated. By these numbers very few people could be considered fairly strong. What's up with that?
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06-04-2003, 07:08 PM
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I think this article was horrible. Was there any kind of objective reasoning behind this or did some guy just make these numbers up?
Maybe I'm just pissed because my bench is WEAK!!!
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06-05-2003, 08:19 AM
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I agree...I am one of the three strongest people in my gym and yet I guess I am only fairly strong...even though most people look at me as if I have snakes crawling out of my eyes when I train. It seems that these numbers are more appropriate for a professional athlete. We should not forget that those individuals are in a league of there own.
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06-05-2003, 08:58 PM
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Lame, Lame, Lame
Uh...
This is fiction... Pure and simple.
Where do these #'s come from? Easy. From up the author's you-know-what...
I can't believe this is a featured article.
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06-05-2003, 10:52 PM
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This article is crap. And who the hell does weighted pushups? 
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06-08-2003, 03:46 PM
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that article was rather unrealistic to say the least....but at least it gives us "sub-fair" people something to shoot for, huh?
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11-28-2003, 11:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by brachilius
Where did these numbers come from? They seem to be grossly inflated. By these numbers very few people could be considered fairly strong. What's up with that?
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what he said
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06-03-2004, 02:13 PM
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WORST
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06-03-2004, 02:49 PM
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What the hell? This article is BS.
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06-03-2004, 03:51 PM
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Lol it's almost funny,
I should be doin 375 lb DL, 280 lb squats. And they are only considered fair....????
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06-03-2004, 04:12 PM
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Well i `m considered strong soo i liked the article
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06-03-2004, 10:14 PM
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who the hell does weighted pushups?
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you should try it sometime 
Those are good numbers to shoot for, I'll give it that..
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06-03-2004, 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by brachilius
I agree...I am one of the three strongest people in my gym and yet I guess I am only fairly strong...even though most people look at me as if I have snakes crawling out of my eyes when I train. It seems that these numbers are more appropriate for a professional athlete. We should not forget that those individuals are in a league of there own.
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Agreed
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06-05-2004, 08:29 PM
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What a bunch of pansy-ass pumper/toners you guys are. Maybe if you lifted for something other than cosmetics, you wouldn't be so weak. Those numbers are well within ranges of strength trainees. Deal with it.
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06-05-2004, 08:43 PM
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What a bunch of pansy-ass pumper/toners you guys are. Maybe if you lifted for something other than cosmetics, you wouldn't be so weak. Those numbers are well within ranges of strength trainees. Deal with it.
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Huge bump. I'm at fair or close to it with a lot of the lifts. With a few years of training I should be considered strong.
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06-06-2004, 08:22 AM
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re
Im excelent in bench and pull ups but suck on the rest.
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06-06-2004, 08:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by BHASPP
What a bunch of pansy-ass pumper/toners you guys are. Maybe if you lifted for something other than cosmetics, you wouldn't be so weak. Those numbers are well within ranges of strength trainees. Deal with it.
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06-08-2004, 01:19 AM
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"What a bunch of pansy-ass pumper/toners you guys are. Maybe if you lifted for something other than cosmetics, you wouldn't be so weak. Those numbers are well within ranges of strength trainees. Deal with it. "
agreed. the article is about being strong. not a little bit bigger or more defined than your couch-potato, pot-head buddies, but STRONG.
and by the way, didnt the much-praised Stuart McRobert, of Beyond Brawn, state that youre on the right track when you can bench 300lbs, squat 400, and deadlift 500?
these numbers are similar. why does everyone praise Stuart, yet bash this article, when theyre pretty much stating the same thing? just like McRobert wrote, these numbers are well within reach for anyone willing to dedicate the time it takes to safely make gains.
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06-08-2004, 09:47 AM
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The problem is not with the attainability of the numbers, the problem is that he basically pulled these numbers out of his ass.
435 is excellent on squats for heavyweights? Give me a break, I've seen 150 pounders do that for 10 reps.
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06-08-2004, 04:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by HoosierBoy
The problem is not with the attainability of the numbers, the problem is that he basically pulled these numbers out of his ass.
435 is excellent on squats for heavyweights? Give me a break, I've seen 150 pounders do that for 10 reps.
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um then that would be excellent. Numbers got to come from somewhere  What the hell do you peoplewant.... a GD 5 year longitudinal study??
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06-08-2004, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by HoosierBoy
The problem is not with the attainability of the numbers, the problem is that he basically pulled these numbers out of his ass.
435 is excellent on squats for heavyweights? Give me a break, I've seen 150 pounders do that for 10 reps.
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But that doesnt mean 435 lbs isnt excelent for heavyweights , if you can go to IPF depth ( 2 inches below paralel ) with 435 you are strong no matter what your weight IMO
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12-14-2004, 02:18 PM
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Yeah the numbers are wierd, I've got "good" squat and bench and "excellent" triceps and curls but my deadlift is so crappy it's not even on the chart! The squat weights are too easily attainable and the deadlift weights are too high. Furthermore, for a 156 pounder I consider myself to be a bit on the weak side, yet still managed to snag plenty of "goods" and "exellents."
The numbers are bizarre to say the least, a powerlifting total is a more reliable gauge of strength.
It's no good for regular schmoes and not at all good for powerlifters (who's maxes are undoubtedly off the chart).
Thumbs down.
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03-11-2005, 08:08 AM
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I believe it close.
According to the chart i am right on track with the number beside bench which i am over. But i have always been stronge in my bench.
Bodyweight: 197
Height: 5'9
Bench Press: 380 max
Deadlift: 550 lbs max
Curls: I don't really know. I do 110 lbs for reps up to 10
Chins: I don't know. Don't do weighted chins.
If you had any question about my measurement just email me at vapor8992@hotmail.com . I am a personal trainer with 4 year of schooling behind me.
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01-26-2006, 03:25 PM
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I think that weight is irrelevant if you don't give a height relationship with it. Also i think that the numbers are easier for people with higher weights to obtain because the numbers go up rather slowly with the weight. PS im 6' 1" and 155lbs. For example if i was 5' 6" 165lbs i would obviously be way stronger for my weight. (But that just means i would be short)
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02-04-2007, 02:46 PM
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grr
everything else for me is fine except the deadlift what the hell 510 for 181 pounder ? :S... only reason im pissed
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