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Old 03-12-2003, 06:02 PM   #3
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Old 03-14-2003, 11:08 AM   #4
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Ah, 20 rep-squats. I know them well. Packed on 20-pounds using a 20-rep squat routine. It was the first routine that ever worked for me as far as muscle mass goes. One tip, however. After about rep 8 or 9 reps, you'll be taking more than 3 breaths during the pause. In fact, you'll be huffing and puffing quite a bit. It usually breaks down to "mini-sets" of 2 or 3 reps after the first 10, and then "singles" from about 15 to 20, with a whole lot of heavy breathing between. And the term "Rest-Pause" in this case is truly misleading. There is no resting when you can barely breathe and you have to stand there with a loaded barbel across you traps.

The general rule of thumb is this: If you can even think of doing another set, you didn't do them right!
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Precisely my point. Great post. However I disaggree with the point about it being "mini-sets" of 2-3 reps in the beginning of the set. In the article, and in my own training, I recommend a pause between each and every single rep. In true breathing squat style there are no continuous reps.
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Old 03-17-2003, 10:42 AM   #6
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Good point. I always include the 3 or so breaths between reps when talking about 20 rep breathing squats, I just didn't specifiy it. So my "mini-set" includes the breathing, not continuous style. Just so folks new to the style realize that towards the end of the set, they don't have to limit themselves to 3 breaths between reps (not that they would be able to!)
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Totally aggree! Later in the set limitting yourself to 3 breaths would be impossible. I imagine the poor brute under the bar would pass out before rep 15! lol
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I'm sick of you losers that claim that low volume works. Good lord, you people are morons. God, cmon, if you've ever actually SEEN these pro bodybuilders lift, they still train for 1-2 hours, usually twice a day, and they do 15-25 sets per bodypart twice a week. you people are idiots. Newsflash, 6-10 sets isn't going to build ANY good physiques. Now, since im sure youre pissed off by now, answer this: If your low volume bull**** works so well, how come you've been stuck struggling with a 225 bench for months or even years? Nuff' said.
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I'm sick of you losers that claim that low volume works. Good lord, you people are morons. God, cmon, if you've ever actually SEEN these pro bodybuilders lift, they still train for 1-2 hours, usually twice a day, and they do 15-25 sets per bodypart twice a week. you people are idiots. Newsflash, 6-10 sets isn't going to build ANY good physiques. Now, since im sure youre pissed off by now, answer this: If your low volume bull**** works so well, how come you've been stuck struggling with a 225 bench for months or even years? Nuff' said.
Hmm...two problems.....pros hold no water in the real world of NATURAL bodybuilding....it just doesn't mean **** what they do cause we aren't taking the drugs they are. And don't give any crap about how we whine that people use drugs that's pure bull ****. I will say straight out that the rules change when drugs get into the mix.

The other problem is that you say no good physiques were built on 6-10 sets.....lets see....Dorian Yates ringing any bells?? How about Skip Lacour (he's a proponant of MaxOT)?? Mike Mentzer? No?....how bout Acheim Albreight? (sp?) All of these physiques were built on (relatively) low volume training. Certainly within the 6-10 set per bodypart range. Some used drugs while some (skip in particular) were drug free.
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You Would Have To Be An Idiot To Believe Skip Is Not Taking Some Kind Of Anabolic.
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You Would Have To Be An Idiot To Believe Skip Is Not Taking Some Kind Of Anabolic.
In any event, if all pros are taking steroids (which is very likely) and some use low volume while others use high volume then the result is that all of the methods work equally well for drug using bodybuilders. It still says nothing for the usefullness of a system for natural athletes.

And just to answer the guy above who somehow got the impression i've been stuck at a "225 pound bench for years"....my current best is 345 for 2 clean reps with no support gear.
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Rest Pause singles rule

I use this style of training on my whole body. 10 second rest between singles. The singles are 85-90% of my max. This WORKS. I can train each body part every other day. There is practically NO soreness or recovery time needed. When I used to do continuous reps I'd be sore and tired for days. Not anymore. And I'm getting strong QUICK. I start a cycle with 6 singles. Add a single each workout until I get to 11 or 12. Start cycle over and add 5-7% more to the bar. Consistant gains, no plateaus, breaking maxes from 15 years ago. So far, doing this, I've added at least 5% to the bar every two weeks. Keep the rest to 10 seconds....much longer and hypertrophy isn't going to happen.
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