test e + d bol cycle

primalnstinct · 12-18-2006, 08:28 AM

BRAINSTORMING TODAY

I am doing research and I would like to ask your opinion at this point on a few test e + d bol cycle questions.

36 years of age, 185lbs., low body fat. No smoking or drinking. I've been on a high calorie diet for a few months for mass gains and have added about 7 pounds of good quality weight over the last year. I have been weight training since 20 years of age, never over weight and always looking for gains. I've learned to lower my rep. count and up my weight lately. It has been tough for me to adjust, but, size it is what I want more so than ever at this stage. I'm taking my time and plan to prepare and prepare again before I join you. Here it goes:

1. Other than the oral SD, this would be my first cycle. Do you suggest test-e alone and not use the d-bol for initial 'gains' at beginning? I am reading both ways online here, t-nation, etc.

2.I am reading 500mg each week for dosage of test e. I have been reading 10-12 week cycles.

3. I will have 250mg amps... Split doseage for even blood flow (two shots @ week)?

4. Being mid-thirties in age, how do you suggest HCG be incorporated if at all? I read Big Cat's version for PCT. Do you agree?

5. Thoughts on Nolvadex being taken DURING cycle? Yes, for preventitive maintanence? No, just have ready for possible sides?

6. Start PCT... 2 weeks after last shot? 3 weeks? I have Nolvadex and Clomid on hand.

7. Will PCT for 4 weeks suffice?
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Clomid 300 first day, then 100 & taper to 50 in the latter part of therapy.

8. What gauge/size/style needle do you prefer/recommend for test-e?

9. Your thoughts and input on the need/use of Arimidex?

10. Any herbal supplements recommended or needed for heart, choesterol, liver, BP, etc?

11. d-bol dose -- 30 ed?

12. When ending test e intake, do you taper off? 500/300/200 at the end of the cycle? Or just stop at 500 on last week?

Thank you in advance, gentlemen.

Mikey1 · 12-18-2006, 10:52 AM

1. Other than the oral SD, this would be my first cycle. Do you suggest test-e alone and not use the d-bol for initial 'gains' at beginning? I am reading both ways online here, t-nation, etc.

- i would use d-bol also for the first 4 weeks @40mgs/day

2.I am reading 500mg each week for dosage of test e. I have been reading 10-12 week cycles.

- correct

3. I will have 250mg amps... Split doseage for even blood flow (two shots @ week)?

- not nessessary.....one shot of 500mgs is fine

4. Being mid-thirties in age, how do you suggest HCG be incorporated if at all? I read Big Cat's version for PCT. Do you agree?

- your choice.....i wouldnt bother

5. Thoughts on Nolvadex being taken DURING cycle? Yes, for preventitive maintanence? No, just have ready for possible sides?

- only use during cycle if you get signs of gyno

6. Start PCT... 2 weeks after last shot? 3 weeks? I have Nolvadex and Clomid on hand.

- two weeks after

7. Will PCT for 4 weeks suffice?
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Clomid 300 first day, then 100 & taper to 50 in the latter part of therapy.

- thats fine

8. What gauge/size/style needle do you prefer/recommend for test-e?

- i use #22....1.5 for glutes......1.0 everywhere else

9. Your thoughts and input on the need/use of Arimidex?

10. Any herbal supplements recommended or needed for heart, choesterol, liver, BP, etc?

- lots.....search

11. d-bol dose -- 30 ed?

- 40mgs

12. When ending test e intake, do you taper off? 500/300/200 at the end of the cycle? Or just stop at 500 on last week?

- nope......just stop

Thank you in advance, gentlemen

primalnstinct · 12-18-2006, 02:53 PM

Thank you, Mike, for your input.

I have on-hand:

RYR
Thistle
Co Q 10
Policosinal
Hawthorne
Saw Pal
Multi Vita
Fish oil
Liver protector

As far as the SD, I did not care for it too much. I bought it and other bottles - along with boxes Halodrol - simply as an investment. I plan to off them in the Spring ($$$). I did appreciate the experience it put me thru, though. The planning, the discipline, the diet, the quick change, the monitor, the ups, the downs & the reality.

Any other opinions AND EXPERIENCE are welcome.

Thanks again.

sails.away · 12-18-2006, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey1

8. What gauge/size/style needle do you prefer/recommend for test-e?

- i use #22....1.5 for glutes......1.0 everywhere else

11. d-bol dose -- 30 ed?

- 40mgs

22gauge SCREW THAT!!!! I hope you're kidding..

25 gauge 1.5 inch for everything. Pinning is a breeze.

I like 50Mg ED of Dbol.