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Defensivback tips
These tips are for people who has the instincts for a db and have all the skills but cant move when you have to,for example when i play db and i see a hook i just know he going to throw the ball but some how my body just cant move for crap and then i see the ball in slow motion going to the wr hands and when he catches it thats when i move. i think i know a way to stop that without any training (its all mental)
ok if your a sorry ass db just go train for db dont come to be asking how to be a better one.
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1.When you know the ball is coming dont jump it wait untill you see the ball,alot of times i jump a hook and end up being a fake
2.Never sprint to the wr when your still in backpeddle unless the ball is in the air,always maintain control movement
3.Of course sprint to the ball where ever it is,thers alot of time when im playing a flat and i see the ball somewhere in the middle and the wr end up catching it and etting a couple of yards,and you start thinking damn if i would have ran i could have got that! ALWAYS PUT MAX EFFORT EVERY PLAY
4.Trust your instincts except on the hooks just be cool untill the ball comes,hooks are the most things that wr does to get tds and 1st downs because there basically the easiest way to get a db and and easiest way to get a nice bomb
5.When you jam i never jam in the middle i always go on the shoulder that i want them to go,i want then in the outside i jam the inside shoulder,jam so they will go for the outside dont really push them just get your hand in there shoulder just throw your hand lightly so your hand is heavy (i hate those when im playing wr,i have to dodge a heavy hand that just slows me down alot) when there still running hit them in the stomach a little or the ribs to get there air out  !! take that *******s!! lol thats just me personaly if that works theres always crazy hands just keep jamming then and NEVER THRUST IN THE BEGINING OF COURSE
6.Transitions out of backpeddle should be small steps of course (shoulder with apart)
7.Slants,when they do one immeditaly a good qb should throw the ball right away so place your hand on his nuts and sqeeze........na man just joking lol !! for real tho just place your hand on his waist and look to the side at the qb a glimps to see if the ball is there or hes looking at you then immeditaly go back when you look sideways to the qb run full speed because most good wr will eaither pull of there routes(newbies) or they will speed up when your not looking(smart people)
8.when blocksometimes the dumbass wr just drive stright into you that can easly be blocked by moving into the outside and that will make a hole for the rb in the inside for the lb can get him ,let the idot wr run stright into you then cut block that *******! get those tall legs out !
9.Bombs are easily shutdown by just getting your body in his face put your hands up in his face,block his eye view and get the ball if he got a step on you take your hand and put it in his thats not a penalty but most refs will call it tho so do it softly and when the ball comes knock it out
10.Interceptions are easily made by being there in the right time
AND REAMEMBER THE DB NEVER HAVE ANY GOOD ACTION SO JUST PLAY YOUR HEART OUT EVERY PLAY BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME YOU WILL NOT GET THE BALL THROW TO YOU SO CUT BLOCK THE O LINE OR PEOPLE WHO LOOK THERE GETTING HYPED BECASUE THATS THE MOST ACTION YOUR GONNA BE GETTING RARELY IN HIGHSCHOOL YOU WILL BE THROWN TO AS A DB I KNOW IT SUCKS.
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12-03-2006, 08:31 AM
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And this is all coming from a stellar HS Defensive Back who happens to be too much of an idiot (see attempt at using English language above) to remain eligible for his team.
If you want to be a good DB, don't listen to this dumbass.
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12-04-2006, 10:48 PM
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Ok...considering I once coached DB's I will try and simplify whatever the hell retard was trying to say and make it so that everyone can understand it.
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1.When you know the ball is coming dont jump it wait untill you see the ball,alot of times i jump a hook and end up being a fake
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Ok...well I'll assume you mean not to jump the route. That is true to the extent, wait until the QB's arm is at its extended point (we called it point of no return) before you jump the route.
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2.Never sprint to the wr when your still in backpeddle unless the ball is in the air,always maintain control movement
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No, wait until the arm is extended and you know the ball is being thrown (point of no return once again). Make a split-second decision.
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3.Of course sprint to the ball where ever it is,thers alot of time when im playing a flat and i see the ball somewhere in the middle and the wr end up catching it and etting a couple of yards,and you start thinking damn if i would have ran i could have got that! ALWAYS PUT MAX EFFORT EVERY PLAY
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Well, numbnuts is on the right track here, kind of. The biggest thing to remember is don't go straight to the ball, take PROPER PURSUIT ANGLES to get to it. But yes, always give max effort.
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4.Trust your instincts except on the hooks just be cool untill the ball comes,hooks are the most things that wr does to get tds and 1st downs because there basically the easiest way to get a db and and easiest way to get a nice bomb
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Ok...well, whatever he said, anyway, remember, trust your keys, your game plan, do your job, play your zone, etc. etc.
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5.When you jam i never jam in the middle i always go on the shoulder that i want them to go,i want then in the outside i jam the inside shoulder,jam so they will go for the outside dont really push them just get your hand in there shoulder just throw your hand lightly so your hand is heavy (i hate those when im playing wr,i have to dodge a heavy hand that just slows me down alot) when there still running hit them in the stomach a little or the ribs to get there air out !! take that *******s!! lol thats just me personaly if that works theres always crazy hands just keep jamming then and NEVER THRUST IN THE BEGINING OF COURSE
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Uhhhh........anyone care to tell me what the hell he's talking about here? This is where having a strong chest in general can come in, it's all about the initial punch, and shocking the receiver. You need to get a good, hard punch into the receiver if you plan to jam him.
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6.Transitions out of backpeddle should be small steps of course (shoulder with apart)
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Uhhh...ok, sounds semi-reasonable. You should be doing a heel-click when you transition out.
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7.Slants,when they do one immeditaly a good qb should throw the ball right away so place your hand on his nuts and sqeeze........na man just joking lol !! for real tho just place your hand on his waist and look to the side at the qb a glimps to see if the ball is there or hes looking at you then immeditaly go back when you look sideways to the qb run full speed because most good wr will eaither pull of there routes(newbies) or they will speed up when your not looking(smart people)
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****ing eh I'm getting tired of trying to translate retard speak. Most college teams are going to be sitting in zone, and are taught to take away the slant by alignment. In loose man, watch the WR's waist, it will show where he's going. If he runs a slant, jump it. Attack his upfield shoulder and get in front of the ball.
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8.when blocksometimes the dumbass wr just drive stright into you that can easly be blocked by moving into the outside and that will make a hole for the rb in the inside for the lb can get him ,let the idot wr run stright into you then cut block that *******! get those tall legs out !
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CUT BLOCK A WIDE RECEIVER?! WTF are you talking about you stupid ****ing retarded ****ing piece of ****ing ****. Other than that, I have no ****ing clue what the **** you're talking about you retarded monkey. You don't cut block, what happens if the WR just lays on you? You're ****ed. Take the block on, use your hands, and get off the damn block and find the ball. After reading this, I really question your ****ing sanity you idiot. Play some real football.
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9.Bombs are easily shutdown by just getting your body in his face put your hands up in his face,block his eye view and get the ball if he got a step on you take your hand and put it in his thats not a penalty but most refs will call it tho so do it softly and when the ball comes knock it out
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Sigh...no. The important thing is to watch his eyes. Stay in step with him, don't look for the damn ball, watch his eyes, ESPECIALLY if he has a step on you. His eyes will get extremely wide when the ball's on the way. That's when you turn and look at it. Kid...you're so retarded...wtf goes through your head?
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10.Interceptions are easily made by being there in the right time
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Yeah yeah yeah. Do your job, and pay attention to your game plan, and you should be able to make plays.
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AND REAMEMBER THE DB NEVER HAVE ANY GOOD ACTION SO JUST PLAY YOUR HEART OUT EVERY PLAY BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME YOU WILL NOT GET THE BALL THROW TO YOU SO CUT BLOCK THE O LINE OR PEOPLE WHO LOOK THERE GETTING HYPED BECASUE THATS THE MOST ACTION YOUR GONNA BE GETTING RARELY IN HIGHSCHOOL YOU WILL BE THROWN TO AS A DB I KNOW IT SUCKS.
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Cut block the O-LINE?! WTF is wrong with you, the O-Linemen are the ones who will murder you if they get a hold of you. So you're basically encouraging to run around cheap shotting people for ****s and giggles? Very very smart
As a final parting thought, you said yourself that you couldn't play football because of grades, so HOW would you know what it's like to be a high school DB? After reading this idiotic drivel you just wrote it makes me wonder what the hell's wrong with the school system these days.
Please go crawl back into whatever hole you were living in.
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12-05-2006, 12:18 PM
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amn that crap was funny as hell
i really question your insanity lol thats funny im passing now with good grades and yes in english lol dit was a long story all im saying is my rules are the best you will ever see and
cut block-go down and chop the legs out,go down and hit his knees for idiots like you
when a wr runs to you go to the side and go down and hit his knees you dumbass!
and what happens if the wr has a visor or has trained himself to not open his eyes you ******* what happens then?
and yes i take cheap shots at people when there hyped man when i was playing i never get no action its like a dress out to just put on the uniforms and call myself a football player it was sooo damn boring so i go around and start taking cheap shots at people just because its legal and i can do it
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12-05-2006, 12:20 PM
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12-05-2006, 04:11 PM
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Your grades are going up...that's good. I'm being serious here, keep working at it!!!
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12-05-2006, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by deltaforce
amn that crap was funny as hell
i really question your insanity lol thats funny im passing now with good grades and yes in english lol dit was a long story all im saying is my rules are the best you will ever see and
cut block-go down and chop the legs out,go down and hit his knees for idiots like you
when a wr runs to you go to the side and go down and hit his knees you dumbass!
and what happens if the wr has a visor or has trained himself to not open his eyes you ******* what happens then?
and yes i take cheap shots at people when there hyped man when i was playing i never get no action its like a dress out to just put on the uniforms and call myself a football player it was sooo damn boring so i go around and start taking cheap shots at people just because its legal and i can do it 
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....I have never, in my life, seen a coach ever teach a defensive back to cut block a WR...ever. I know what a cut block is, but people are taught how to avoid cut blocks, who's the say the WR won't avoid the block and just lay on you? A cut block, in open field on a WR is ****ing hard as hell to do, and I have yet to see it taught. Only in your own young mind do you think it's possible.
In the NCAA dark visors are illegal now, only clear visors are legal. So that shoots your idea of visors out of the water. And train himself not to open his eyes? No, sorry, it doesn't happen. Anyone I know who is a WR is 50 times more concerned with running the route and their speed then they are with training their eyes not to widen when the ball's coming. It is a completely natural reaction.
Good job being a cheap shot artist too. When you actually play high school we'll talk
And after reading your claim that the WR "trains his eyes" not to open, I have to ask myself, are you a troll, or just an idiot? I'm going to go with troll...you can't seem to grasp the concept of logic, constructive criticism, any of that.
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12-05-2006, 05:27 PM
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Good to have you back buddy. I mean that to Acbrits. Delta, as always, go **** yourself.
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12-05-2006, 08:09 PM
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so your saying every wr open thre eyes when they catch the ball?
and theres alot of things you dont see in the nfl while your playing or in the stadium
they always say it in the interviews just go on sound of week 12 or something on nfl.com
ray lewis was talking alot of crap and portis didnt say nothing (you would thought he would at least say something lol scared?) i would lol
theres alot of things going down when your playing not even the coachs know and most of the people here dont play football just watchs it and coach it ( rare people like 5 people )
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12-05-2006, 08:56 PM
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Delta, if not every receiver's eyes get wide before they catch the ball, why is that a technique taught to DBs?
NFL? Worry about playing in high school first man.
To be honest...I'm not sure what exactly you're trying to point out in your post, but sometime tape a game, and any close up it shows of a WR's face when the ball's coming to him, I guarantee you'll see his eyes get wide.
It's not something that WR's train themselves not to do, hell it's something that WR's don't even worry about one bit, and for DB's it's mainly used if they're beaten by a step or two.
Mad Dog, good to be back, good to see ya again.
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12-06-2006, 10:06 AM
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This could be the worst tips i have ever heard for a db.. Cut the receiver? Dont go outside? It leaves a hole? you are supposed to go outside unless you are primary run support as in a cover 2 look but you go outside so the safety can fill. if you are playing corner and inside out if you are safety. You should never cut block a receiver all that does is take you out of the play the correct way to get off of a receiver is to make contact and extend your arms and shuck the receiver either way or dip and rip. THe only decent tips you gave were for maybe a pee wee team and still horrible at that. You are a disgrace to the defensive back position. Never talk again
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12-06-2006, 10:12 AM
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This could be the worst tips i have ever heard for a db.. Cut the receiver? Dont go outside? It leaves a hole? you are supposed to go outside unless you are primary run support as in a cover 2 look but you go outside so the safety can fill. if you are playing corner and inside out if you are safety. You should never cut block a receiver all that does is take you out of the play the correct way to get off of a receiver is to make contact and extend your arms and shuck the receiver either way or dip and rip. THe only decent tips you gave were for maybe a pee wee team and still horrible at that. You are a disgrace to the defensive back position. Never talk again
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Best response ever. Reps to you on recharge
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12-06-2006, 10:34 AM
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for real delta, you don't know dick about football so quit f'n acting like it.
why is he back anyways? can we ban him again??
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12-06-2006, 01:33 PM
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Best response ever. Reps to you on recharge
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8.when blocksometimes the dumbass wr just drive stright into you that can easly be blocked by moving into the outside and that will make a hole for the rb in the inside for the lb can get him ,let the idot wr run stright into you then cut block that *******! get those tall legs out !
just leanr how to read idots im not a 40 year old man not helping there own kids because there so fat that they have no hope and go on here and harrase me because they see me and hoped that i could be there kids  lol yea i know
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12-06-2006, 03:59 PM
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8.when blocksometimes the dumbass wr just drive stright into you that can easly be blocked by moving into the outside and that will make a hole for the rb in the inside for the lb can get him ,let the idot wr run stright into you then cut block that *******! get those tall legs out !
just leanr how to read idots im not a 40 year old man not helping there own kids because there so fat that they have no hope and go on here and harrase me because they see me and hoped that i could be there kids  lol yea i know
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Why do you insist on cut blocking the WR? I'm just wondering why you honestly think that works...because I've never seen it taught at any level. Ever. And it never will be. By dropping down to the ground you are basically taking yourself out of the play. Watch the WR's hands, get his hands off of you, whether you're attacking his forearm (try smashing down on his forearm when he gets a hold of you, he'll let go really fast) and getting off by ripping or swimming the WR. DB's are taught to take on the block head-on, and react to what the RB does. What you're trying to tell us is something that has never been taught by coaches, as a matter of fact it's something that you're making up on the fly and claiming it as truth. It's not truth, it's asinine.
And the part about some parent wishing you were his kid...wouldn't you have to play high school ball first?
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12-06-2006, 05:12 PM
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And the part about some parent wishing you were his kid...wouldn't you have to play high school ball first?
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Let's not forget about not being a mental retard.
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HOLY F***, that was the biggest waste of time ever. I was a middle linebacker up to my Freshman year, and that's just because I didn't really lift. And we had no one who could cover a reciever. I now start safety, and also play cornerback. And I disagree with almost everything you said Delta. You must get your A** burned all the time, I know this because I also play receiver/tightend.
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HOLY F***, that was the biggest waste of time ever. I was a middle linebacker up to my Freshman year, and that's just because I didn't really lift. And we had no one who could cover a reciever. I now start safety, and also play cornerback. And I disagree with almost everything you said Delta. You must get your A** burned all the time, I know this because I also play receiver/tightend.
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Ha exactly.. and besides db is all about reps and response.. you can have all the tips in the world and that doesnt mean **** in the game you just have to cover cover and cover and dont get burned.. be an athlete
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12-07-2006, 06:21 AM
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NO! you guys are ALL WRONG! you are supposed to CUT the Wideout because its cheap but still legal. then when the ball comes, look for the WR to CLOSE HIS EYES!!
Ha just f'n with ya
delta it amazes me that you still think you're right, when all of us actual football players continue to tell you otherwise. do us all a favor and swallow a shotgun, and have your mother pull the trigger.
for real though, are any mods reading this?? can we pleeeeeeeeeease get him banned (again)???
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man that was funny about the shotgun lol im use that lol !!!
ok guys when you play football and the play is over the WR STILL RUNS AT YOU they do it alot you just dont see it becasue your obisualy a fat ass football wannabe and just watch nfl and never se what happens what happens when the play is over theres still people going at it i was surprised when i saw this when i play the wr kept running at me (he did a hook and i went deep) and he ran not full speed but noramal and got a cheap hit and almost knock me down that **** takes the air outta you ounce you get alot
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12-07-2006, 12:01 PM
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man that was funny about the shotgun lol im use that lol !!!
ok guys when you play football and the play is over the WR STILL RUNS AT YOU they do it alot you just dont see it becasue your obisualy a fat ass football wannabe and just watch nfl and never se what happens what happens when the play is over theres still people going at it i was surprised when i saw this when i play the wr kept running at me (he did a hook and i went deep) and he ran not full speed but noramal and got a cheap hit and almost knock me down that **** takes the air outta you ounce you get alot
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Ok, I can semi-agree with you, hell yeah if he's going to cheap shot you take his ass out. And no, they don't do it a lot, otherwise there would be more personal fouls (regardless of what you're ass thinks, cheap shots like that = flags).
The part about sitting on our asses watching the NFL? Hahaha. DaJager plays college football, as do I. Keep making idiotic excuses son.
Once again, what room do you have to talk, you HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED HIGH SCHOOL!
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man watch a football game the people keeps blocking right ? and if you say you *play* cough sit on the bench argghh you will notice that the players keep doing its just football thats why they dont call it and its everyplay i think the coaches teach them that
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Tips for Wide Receivers:
1. Pre-snap, be aware of how "heavy" the corner's hands are. He will hit you lightly with a heavy hand.
2. When the ball is snapped, be ready to hurdle. You can bet the corner will be firing out at your legs.
3. Don't make any "holes" for your RB, otherwise a LB could come make the play.
4. Run routes with your eyes closed. If you're running a fade route and you trip over the down and distance chains, it means you got too close to the sideline.
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12-07-2006, 01:28 PM
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man watch a football game the people keeps blocking right ? and if you say you *play* cough sit on the bench argghh you will notice that the players keep doing its just football thats why they dont call it and its everyplay i think the coaches teach them that
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Notice my avi, I'm actually in the game. So you lose on that one, try again.
Even if I didn't play, I'm on the team. You're not even on a high school team.
Oh, and reword whatever it is you just said, I'm not fluent in "delta-retard-talk"
Actually, on second thought, don't bother. If you ever play high school football, drop me a PM and I'd be more than happy to chat about football with you. Until then, welcome to the Ignore List.
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actually im do a little spring (january) and im bring my cam and hide it if i can find it
and all i see is 3 fat people and 1 guy looked like hes gonna get hit and look scared
nice one on the joke lol for tips for wr that was funny when you said run a fade and if u trip you went to far lol thats funny im use that
and i mean chop at the end because the wr keeps going i know you dont know because you never play
and i can get an avi on champ baiely and say im champ? duu
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Originally Posted by deltaforce
man watch a football game the people keeps blocking right ? and if you say you *play* cough sit on the bench argghh you will notice that the players keep doing its just football thats why they dont call it and its everyplay i think the coaches teach them that
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"It's just football"
like you would know dumbass. why don't you just let it go, your "fact" that DB's "cut" wideouts and linemen is ridiuclous. cutting is a BLOCK below the knees, and the only people that cut on our team are O-linemen on a handful of plays and I have to once in a while playing tailback or fullback. If you mean tackling below the knees then yeah you halfway make sense, but quit saying "cut" because you are confusing people jackass. you know nothing at all about football, so quit acting like it.
Last edited by DaJager_Meister; 12-08-2006 at 06:40 AM.
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12-08-2006, 11:33 AM
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our outside linebackers cut when they crash in on the fullback.. but thats because they are undersized so they dont really have a choice..they are good though.. besides that unless we are in a 6-2 front cut no one cuts but the outsides backers.. defense im speaking
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12-08-2006, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bamfchris
our outside linebackers cut when they crash in on the fullback.. but thats because they are undersized so they dont really have a choice..they are good though.. besides that unless we are in a 6-2 front cut no one cuts but the outsides backers.. defense im speaking
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Why the hell are defensive players CUTTING all of a sudden? Did I miss a lecture at the last coaches clinic? Is this the new way to do things? Did Websters flip the meanings of "offense" to "defense" and the meanings of "tackle" and "cut block"?
Defensive players TACKLE, Offensive players BLOCK. Capish?
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12-08-2006, 02:35 PM
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Yeah...I obviously need to go to different coaching clinics...silly me I never thought defensive players were supposed to cut.
To bamfchris, I do understand your point though, some people do or don't depending on size.
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12-08-2006, 03:13 PM
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man everyone does it you just never see it happening
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