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Old 11-20-2006, 05:58 PM   #1
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met-rx creatine blast...ingredients

First off, I'm not bashing this product in anyway, just a curious consumer.


So besides creatine it shows:

phosphorous (as magnesium phosphate, potassium phosphate, sodium phosphate)

Then it lists magnesium phosphate, potassium phosphate and sodium phosphate seperately, again. Why?

Then it shows taurine and of course creatine.


So I look up each individual phosphate along with the taurine and see that, one can potentially raise blood pressure, another can potentially lower blood pressure and another is designed to basically make you crap and could dehydrate you, interesting.


So how are these working to better creatine absorption and are their any concerns with taking too much, as I checked and individually, there are concerns listed?


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Old 11-20-2006, 06:03 PM   #2
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They're electrolytes

"If you have ever felt drained or sluggish after a day in the hot sun or a tough work out your body may be telling you that it needs more electrolytes †. Electrolytes are needed to maintain proper fluid balance and to optimize your energy levels so you can function at your best"
"A deficiency of one of the electrolytes, or even an imbalance can cause a wide range of problems including sluggishness, fatigue, low energy levels and cramping."
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:40 AM   #3
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Maybe...but how is sodium phosphate gonna help creatine delivery...as from what I read...its medical use is as a laxative?


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Maybe...but how is sodium phosphate gonna help creatine delivery...as from what I read...its medical use is as a laxative?


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Sodium is salt and it is greatly absorbed by the body, which is why salt makes you retain water. Adding it to creatine helps it become absorbed better.
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Are there not other forms of sodium?


I also found this:

What should I avoid while taking potassium phosphate and sodium phosphate?

Do not take antacids containing aluminum, calcium, or magnesium while taking potassium phosphate and sodium phosphate, except under the supervision of your doctor. Antacids may decrease phosphate absorption.

and...

Who should not take potassium phosphate and sodium phosphate?

You cannot take potassium phosphate and sodium phosphate if you have

high levels of potassium in your body,
high levels of phosphorus in your body,
infected phosphate stones, or
severe kidney disease.

Two thoughts come to mind:

If magnesium can inhibit phosphate absorption, then whats the point of magnesium phosphate?


Second, potassium is a decent ingredient in most protein powders, which is something common to take among bodybuilders, when is too much too much?


I feel your answers are a little too vague to satisfy the answers I seek. Feel free to elaborate.

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Quote:
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Are there not other forms of sodium?


I also found this:

What should I avoid while taking potassium phosphate and sodium phosphate?

Do not take antacids containing aluminum, calcium, or magnesium while taking potassium phosphate and sodium phosphate, except under the supervision of your doctor. Antacids may decrease phosphate absorption.

and...

Who should not take potassium phosphate and sodium phosphate?

You cannot take potassium phosphate and sodium phosphate if you have

high levels of potassium in your body,
high levels of phosphorus in your body,
infected phosphate stones, or
severe kidney disease.

Two thoughts come to mind:

If magnesium can inhibit phosphate absorption, then whats the point of magnesium phosphate?


Second, potassium is a decent ingredient in most protein powders, which is something common to take among bodybuilders, when is too much too much?


I feel your answers are a little too vague to satisfy the answers I seek. Feel free to elaborate.
foods contain trace amounts. No need to worry. Besides, if you're a bodybuilder then you should be drinking plenty of water.
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trace amounts are one thing but this is, I would expect, a substantial amount? No?




Why do I feel like everyone is dancing over the questions Im asking?
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trace amounts are one thing but this is, I would expect, a substantial amount? No?




Why do I feel like everyone is dancing over the questions Im asking?
They are electrolytes which maintain proper fluid balance and help with energy levels. They are not in a huge quantity (no negative effects) and they will allow the creatine to be absorbed better by flooding the muscles with water (allowing the creatine to be transported and absorbed by the muscles easier).
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