Muslim Women as Human Shields

[hassidiclifting]

Muslim Women as Human Shields
by Emanuel A. Winston
Nov 13, '06





Would any American, European or Israeli man call for his wife, mother, sister or daughter to come into a fire-fight and stand as a human shield to protect him? The Arab Muslim Palestinians, on the other hand, think nothing of using women, children and the elderly as "human shields."

These are the great macho Muslim men who take such pride in their self-perceived masculinity. They not only called up their women as shields, but called for women's dresses to disguise themselves and escape within the crowd. Worse yet, after they became "females," some of the escaping terrorists fired their weapons from the crowd of women, drawing fire from the Israelis who were after the terrorists using the mosque as a hiding place. The Israelis' return fire struck the crowd of women who were shielding the escaping male terrorists, killing two women and injuring some 10 others.

What heroic figures, what role models for their children. Would you hide behind the skirts of your mother, wife, sisters or daughters so you could escape?

I recall how Ayatollah Khomeini, in his war with Iraq, sent children to run across Iraqi minefields so that Iranian soldiers might cross safely. But, not to worry, Khomeini gave them slips of paper that told the children that they would soon be in Muslim warriors' heaven. Of course, many did not die, but merely had their limbs blown off, so they could live the rest of their lives as maimed cripples.

There were many other instances where the heroic Muslims used their civilians as "human shields." In their several wars with Israel, many of the Arab adversaries - such as Egypt, Syria, the Arab Muslim Palestinians under Yasser Arafat in Lebanon - used to place their anti-aircraft guns on the roofs of schools, hospitals and civilian apartment buildings. If the ground-to-air missile batteries were too heavy and hard to re-load, some missile batteries were actually placed in school yards at ground level.

When they were hit by Israeli aircraft, the Muslims would bleat and howl about how the "inhuman Israelis were killing their children and blowing up their hospitals."

In the recent attacks by the Hizbullah from Lebanon, they indiscriminately launched their Katyusha rockets against any Israeli city their missiles could reach. Many of the launchers were pre-positioned in Arab civilian houses, apartment buildings, schools and hospitals. The launchers kept in the living rooms of apartments were on wheels: when the Hizbullah fighters were ready to fire, they rolled the Katyusha launcher out onto the balcony, fired and then withdrew back into the apartment. This, of course, made both the apartment and the whole building, inhabited by civilians, a must-hit target. As for the so-called civilians, they either cheered their guests, who were family to them, or had little choice in hosting the Hizbullah shooters.

In southern Lebanon, the Hizbullah were funded, supplied and trained by Iran and Syria. Iran and Syria are still smuggling weapons across the border from Iran through Syria, under the eyes of the MNF (Multi-National Force). In southern Lebanon, the Hizbullah dug tunnels, built bunkers, loaded those bunkers with Katyusha missiles, often within a few hundred feet of the soldiers of UNIFIL (United Nations Interim Forces In Lebanon).

Sadly, UNIFIL, and now the MNF, act as silent partners to Hizbullah while pretending to be impartial peacekeepers. The presence of UN troops often keeps Israel from shooting back at Hizbullah near UNIFIL or MNF outposts. Sometimes, not. When Israel was forced to shell an area from where the Katyusha rockets were being launched and hit a UNIFIL post, Kofi Annan and the pro-Arab UN threw a fit and voted condemnation. They never voted condemnation of the Lebanese government, which was supposed to put their army at the Lebanese-Israeli border, disarm and disband Hizbullah - preventing them from attacking Israel - but which never did.

Terrorists would slip past UNIFIL positions to cross into Israel, but were never stopped or challenged by UNIFIL. If the terrorists were successful in a terrorist attack, they merely slipped back past the UNIFIL soldiers with a wink and a nod. Of course, the UNIFIL soldiers could not resist a cash bribe, always denied by Kofi Annan.

"History spin" is already being written by the Left and the liberal media, as they cast terrorists as some sort of heroes for escaping a mosque in which they hid behind a shield of women. The media then demonizes Israel for chasing these "poor, innocent Muslims." Meanwhile, the firing of Kassam rockets on Israeli towns is reported as a matter of fact, but not a very important event. The "spin" for the reader is to accept Arab terrorism and missile fire at Israeli civilians as a kind of naturally expected custom of Arabs. So, don't think too much about it.

But according to the media, and some in the Washington administration, for Israel to attack in retribution is both unnecessary and constitutes excessive force.

[LuckyDragon]

Originally Posted by hassidiclifting

Muslim Women as Human Shields
by Emanuel A. Winston
Nov 13, '06





Would any American, European or Israeli man call for his wife, mother, sister or daughter to come into a fire-fight and stand as a human shield to protect him? The Arab Muslim Palestinians, on the other hand, think nothing of using women, children and the elderly as "human shields."

These are the great macho Muslim men who take such pride in their self-perceived masculinity. They not only called up their women as shields, but called for women's dresses to disguise themselves and escape within the crowd. Worse yet, after they became "females," some of the escaping terrorists fired their weapons from the crowd of women, drawing fire from the Israelis who were after the terrorists using the mosque as a hiding place. The Israelis' return fire struck the crowd of women who were shielding the escaping male terrorists, killing two women and injuring some 10 others.

What heroic figures, what role models for their children. Would you hide behind the skirts of your mother, wife, sisters or daughters so you could escape?

I recall how Ayatollah Khomeini, in his war with Iraq, sent children to run across Iraqi minefields so that Iranian soldiers might cross safely. But, not to worry, Khomeini gave them slips of paper that told the children that they would soon be in Muslim warriors' heaven. Of course, many did not die, but merely had their limbs blown off, so they could live the rest of their lives as maimed cripples.

There were many other instances where the heroic Muslims used their civilians as "human shields." In their several wars with Israel, many of the Arab adversaries - such as Egypt, Syria, the Arab Muslim Palestinians under Yasser Arafat in Lebanon - used to place their anti-aircraft guns on the roofs of schools, hospitals and civilian apartment buildings. If the ground-to-air missile batteries were too heavy and hard to re-load, some missile batteries were actually placed in school yards at ground level.

When they were hit by Israeli aircraft, the Muslims would bleat and howl about how the "inhuman Israelis were killing their children and blowing up their hospitals."

In the recent attacks by the Hizbullah from Lebanon, they indiscriminately launched their Katyusha rockets against any Israeli city their missiles could reach. Many of the launchers were pre-positioned in Arab civilian houses, apartment buildings, schools and hospitals. The launchers kept in the living rooms of apartments were on wheels: when the Hizbullah fighters were ready to fire, they rolled the Katyusha launcher out onto the balcony, fired and then withdrew back into the apartment. This, of course, made both the apartment and the whole building, inhabited by civilians, a must-hit target. As for the so-called civilians, they either cheered their guests, who were family to them, or had little choice in hosting the Hizbullah shooters.

In southern Lebanon, the Hizbullah were funded, supplied and trained by Iran and Syria. Iran and Syria are still smuggling weapons across the border from Iran through Syria, under the eyes of the MNF (Multi-National Force). In southern Lebanon, the Hizbullah dug tunnels, built bunkers, loaded those bunkers with Katyusha missiles, often within a few hundred feet of the soldiers of UNIFIL (United Nations Interim Forces In Lebanon).

Sadly, UNIFIL, and now the MNF, act as silent partners to Hizbullah while pretending to be impartial peacekeepers. The presence of UN troops often keeps Israel from shooting back at Hizbullah near UNIFIL or MNF outposts. Sometimes, not. When Israel was forced to shell an area from where the Katyusha rockets were being launched and hit a UNIFIL post, Kofi Annan and the pro-Arab UN threw a fit and voted condemnation. They never voted condemnation of the Lebanese government, which was supposed to put their army at the Lebanese-Israeli border, disarm and disband Hizbullah - preventing them from attacking Israel - but which never did.

Terrorists would slip past UNIFIL positions to cross into Israel, but were never stopped or challenged by UNIFIL. If the terrorists were successful in a terrorist attack, they merely slipped back past the UNIFIL soldiers with a wink and a nod. Of course, the UNIFIL soldiers could not resist a cash bribe, always denied by Kofi Annan.

"History spin" is already being written by the Left and the liberal media, as they cast terrorists as some sort of heroes for escaping a mosque in which they hid behind a shield of women. The media then demonizes Israel for chasing these "poor, innocent Muslims." Meanwhile, the firing of Kassam rockets on Israeli towns is reported as a matter of fact, but not a very important event. The "spin" for the reader is to accept Arab terrorism and missile fire at Israeli civilians as a kind of naturally expected custom of Arabs. So, don't think too much about it.

But according to the media, and some in the Washington administration, for Israel to attack in retribution is both unnecessary and constitutes excessive force.

That is a pretty logical explanation of what happened. There are pictures that actually show these rocket launchers next to civilian structures. Now they are going just re"Hudnaing"

[NuggzTheNinja]

Originally Posted by LuckyDragon

That is a pretty logical explanation of what happened. There are pictures that actually show these rocket launchers next to civilian structures. Now they are going just re"Hudnaing"

According to the forum nutjobs, those were Mossad launchers.

[LuckyDragon]

Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja

According to the forum nutjobs, those were Mossad launchers.

Well if Hezbollah wants to win the PR battle they need to start doing some child sandbagging. Cover their launchers in children Mad Max style and it is PR Gold in Europe

[mugz101]

Originally Posted by hassidiclifting

Muslim Women as Human Shields
by Emanuel A. Winston
Nov 13, '06





Would any American, European or Israeli man call for his wife, mother, sister or daughter to come into a fire-fight and stand as a human shield to protect him? The Arab Muslim Palestinians, on the other hand, think nothing of using women, children and the elderly as "human shields."

These are the great macho Muslim men who take such pride in their self-perceived masculinity. They not only called up their women as shields, but called for women's dresses to disguise themselves and escape within the crowd. Worse yet, after they became "females," some of the escaping terrorists fired their weapons from the crowd of women, drawing fire from the Israelis who were after the terrorists using the mosque as a hiding place. The Israelis' return fire struck the crowd of women who were shielding the escaping male terrorists, killing two women and injuring some 10 others.

What heroic figures, what role models for their children. Would you hide behind the skirts of your mother, wife, sisters or daughters so you could escape?

I recall how Ayatollah Khomeini, in his war with Iraq, sent children to run across Iraqi minefields so that Iranian soldiers might cross safely. But, not to worry, Khomeini gave them slips of paper that told the children that they would soon be in Muslim warriors' heaven. Of course, many did not die, but merely had their limbs blown off, so they could live the rest of their lives as maimed cripples.

There were many other instances where the heroic Muslims used their civilians as "human shields." In their several wars with Israel, many of the Arab adversaries - such as Egypt, Syria, the Arab Muslim Palestinians under Yasser Arafat in Lebanon - used to place their anti-aircraft guns on the roofs of schools, hospitals and civilian apartment buildings. If the ground-to-air missile batteries were too heavy and hard to re-load, some missile batteries were actually placed in school yards at ground level.

When they were hit by Israeli aircraft, the Muslims would bleat and howl about how the "inhuman Israelis were killing their children and blowing up their hospitals."

In the recent attacks by the Hizbullah from Lebanon, they indiscriminately launched their Katyusha rockets against any Israeli city their missiles could reach. Many of the launchers were pre-positioned in Arab civilian houses, apartment buildings, schools and hospitals. The launchers kept in the living rooms of apartments were on wheels: when the Hizbullah fighters were ready to fire, they rolled the Katyusha launcher out onto the balcony, fired and then withdrew back into the apartment. This, of course, made both the apartment and the whole building, inhabited by civilians, a must-hit target. As for the so-called civilians, they either cheered their guests, who were family to them, or had little choice in hosting the Hizbullah shooters.

In southern Lebanon, the Hizbullah were funded, supplied and trained by Iran and Syria. Iran and Syria are still smuggling weapons across the border from Iran through Syria, under the eyes of the MNF (Multi-National Force). In southern Lebanon, the Hizbullah dug tunnels, built bunkers, loaded those bunkers with Katyusha missiles, often within a few hundred feet of the soldiers of UNIFIL (United Nations Interim Forces In Lebanon).

Sadly, UNIFIL, and now the MNF, act as silent partners to Hizbullah while pretending to be impartial peacekeepers. The presence of UN troops often keeps Israel from shooting back at Hizbullah near UNIFIL or MNF outposts. Sometimes, not. When Israel was forced to shell an area from where the Katyusha rockets were being launched and hit a UNIFIL post, Kofi Annan and the pro-Arab UN threw a fit and voted condemnation. They never voted condemnation of the Lebanese government, which was supposed to put their army at the Lebanese-Israeli border, disarm and disband Hizbullah - preventing them from attacking Israel - but which never did.

Terrorists would slip past UNIFIL positions to cross into Israel, but were never stopped or challenged by UNIFIL. If the terrorists were successful in a terrorist attack, they merely slipped back past the UNIFIL soldiers with a wink and a nod. Of course, the UNIFIL soldiers could not resist a cash bribe, always denied by Kofi Annan.

"History spin" is already being written by the Left and the liberal media, as they cast terrorists as some sort of heroes for escaping a mosque in which they hid behind a shield of women. The media then demonizes Israel for chasing these "poor, innocent Muslims." Meanwhile, the firing of Kassam rockets on Israeli towns is reported as a matter of fact, but not a very important event. The "spin" for the reader is to accept Arab terrorism and missile fire at Israeli civilians as a kind of naturally expected custom of Arabs. So, don't think too much about it.

But according to the media, and some in the Washington administration, for Israel to attack in retribution is both unnecessary and constitutes excessive force.

Hmm? have any pictures of the women bieng used as human shields?

i have a litttle article of my own if you dont mind..

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...38&postcount=1
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...60&postcount=2



""Israel's claim that Hezbollah fighters are hiding among civilians does not explain, let alone justify, Israel's indiscriminate warfare," says HRW Executive Director Kenneth Roth. "[T]he image that Israel has promoted of such shielding as the cause of so high a civilian death toll is wrong. In the many cases of civilian deaths examined by Human Rights Watch, the location of Hezbollah troops and arms had nothing to do with the deaths because there was no Hezbollah around."

http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2006...ebano13902.htm

A source at Oxfam described the allegation as "nonsense" by "the Israeli propaganda machine" to create "very dodgy journalism." Independent correspondent Robert Fisk, who lives in Lebanon and has reported from the country for more than 20 years, called it "bull****." A reporter for the Daily Telegraph, a newspaper known for its pro-Israeli editorial policy, called it "total and utter rubbish", "completely retarded", "a whole lot of crap" and "simply not true." Another Telegraph reporter described the claim as "absolutely wrong." The Lebanese ambassador described it as "really stupid," and Professor Omar Nashabe called it "incorrect", "inadequate" and "baseless."

"The sources said such allegations were nothing new. "This came up previously during the occupation of the south of Lebanon," said Nicole Choueiry, Amnesty's press officer for the Middle East and North Africa.

This is "the usual thing they say about Hezbollah," said Donatella Rivera, Amnesty's researcher on Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories. "It's a very old story. Israel has been saying that about Gaza and Palestine in general forever, so it's a broken record."

[jmonty]

"It's a very old story. Israel has been saying that about Gaza and Palestine in general forever, so it's a broken record."

it has probably been true forever.

[NuggzTheNinja]

Originally Posted by mugz101

Hmm? have any pictures of the women bieng used as human shields?

i have a litttle article of my own if you dont mind..

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...38&postcount=1
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...60&postcount=2



""Israel's claim that Hezbollah fighters are hiding among civilians does not explain, let alone justify, Israel's indiscriminate warfare," says HRW Executive Director Kenneth Roth. "[T]he image that Israel has promoted of such shielding as the cause of so high a civilian death toll is wrong. In the many cases of civilian deaths examined by Human Rights Watch, the location of Hezbollah troops and arms had nothing to do with the deaths because there was no Hezbollah around."

http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2006...ebano13902.htm

A source at Oxfam described the allegation as "nonsense" by "the Israeli propaganda machine" to create "very dodgy journalism." Independent correspondent Robert Fisk, who lives in Lebanon and has reported from the country for more than 20 years, called it "bull****." A reporter for the Daily Telegraph, a newspaper known for its pro-Israeli editorial policy, called it "total and utter rubbish", "completely retarded", "a whole lot of crap" and "simply not true." Another Telegraph reporter described the claim as "absolutely wrong." The Lebanese ambassador described it as "really stupid," and Professor Omar Nashabe called it "incorrect", "inadequate" and "baseless."

"The sources said such allegations were nothing new. "This came up previously during the occupation of the south of Lebanon," said Nicole Choueiry, Amnesty's press officer for the Middle East and North Africa.

This is "the usual thing they say about Hezbollah," said Donatella Rivera, Amnesty's researcher on Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories. "It's a very old story. Israel has been saying that about Gaza and Palestine in general forever, so it's a broken record."

I've posted multiple video clips showing Hezbollah using civilian homes as shields.

And when you speak of "indiscriminate attacks", have a look at Hezbollah that shot rockets randomly into Israel to terrorize the civilian population.

Israel's response was not indiscriminate. It was aimed at destroying infrastructure necessary to Hezbollah's logistical support. However, since you and 99% of the other people that are Islamofascist-sympathizers don't have a clue with that means, I'll spell it out for you:

Israel was blowing up bridges and power stations because those bridges and power stations were used by Hezbollah to conduct war against Israel. It was accurate and targeted shelling.



And BTW, the reason Israel says that Hamas uses human shields is because HAMAS USES HUMAN SHIELDS. Someone posted an article just the other day showing Hamas CALLING FOR HUMAN SHIELDS TO COME AID THE EXTRICATION OF THEIR MEN from a mosque.

But I suppose logic and reason is lost on you.

[1devil]

Originally Posted by mugz101

Hmm? have any pictures of the women bieng used as human shields?

i have a litttle article of my own if you dont mind..

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...38&postcount=1
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...60&postcount=2



""Israel's claim that Hezbollah fighters are hiding among civilians does not explain, let alone justify, Israel's indiscriminate warfare," says HRW Executive Director Kenneth Roth. "[T]he image that Israel has promoted of such shielding as the cause of so high a civilian death toll is wrong. In the many cases of civilian deaths examined by Human Rights Watch, the location of Hezbollah troops and arms had nothing to do with the deaths because there was no Hezbollah around."

http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2006...ebano13902.htm

A source at Oxfam described the allegation as "nonsense" by "the Israeli propaganda machine" to create "very dodgy journalism." Independent correspondent Robert Fisk, who lives in Lebanon and has reported from the country for more than 20 years, called it "bull****." A reporter for the Daily Telegraph, a newspaper known for its pro-Israeli editorial policy, called it "total and utter rubbish", "completely retarded", "a whole lot of crap" and "simply not true." Another Telegraph reporter described the claim as "absolutely wrong." The Lebanese ambassador described it as "really stupid," and Professor Omar Nashabe called it "incorrect", "inadequate" and "baseless."

"The sources said such allegations were nothing new. "This came up previously during the occupation of the south of Lebanon," said Nicole Choueiry, Amnesty's press officer for the Middle East and North Africa.

This is "the usual thing they say about Hezbollah," said Donatella Rivera, Amnesty's researcher on Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories. "It's a very old story. Israel has been saying that about Gaza and Palestine in general forever, so it's a broken record."

There may have been an indiscriminate element to Israel's campaign in Lebanon this summer. However, comparing the activities of Israel to those of Hezbollah in this conflict is just silly. Every war has an indiscriminate element to it. If you compare civilian causalties in this war to other recent war, or other ongoing wars, I think you will quickly discover that Israel's behavior was nothing out of the ordinary.Take a look at the Balkan war, the current conflict in Sudan, the Iran Iraq war, the Soviets war with Afganistan etc. I think you will see much more egregious behavior in those wars. This despite the fact that Israel was dealing with cowards who endangered their own civilians as part of their millitary strategy.

It becomes tiresome to hear people defend the actions of Hezbollah and Hamas. They are systematically destroying any future for their people with their campaign of hateful indoctrination. How can anyone that envisions any kind future for the Palestinians support such behavior.

[ll ReNeGaDe ll]

Originally Posted by mugz101

Hmm? have any pictures of the women bieng used as human shields?

no pictures are needed, it has been printed in the PA newspapers. www.pmw.org.il

[Julie5150]

OP:

Doesnt surprise me, and it's nothing new - they've always devalued woman and children.
It's just too predictable for a people who advocate suicide via bomb to, also, use people as shields to protect theirselves.

What doesn't make sense, actually, is why they bother protecting theirselves at all - since they're all for dying in the name of their faith.

[ll ReNeGaDe ll]

Originally Posted by Julie5150

OP:

Doesnt surprise me, and it's nothing new - they've always devalued woman and children.
It's just too predictable for a people who advocate suicide via bomb to, also, use people as shields to protect theirselves.

What doesn't make sense, actually, is why they bother protecting theirselves at all - since they're all for dying in the name of their faith.

because if they stay alive a little longer, they can kill more jews.

http://pmw.org.il/asx/PMW_stoneTree.asx

[Julie5150]

But they're just being hypocritical - they're suppoes to kill theirselves without thinking about it.

[guym]

Originally Posted by Julie5150

But they're just being hypocritical - they're suppoes to kill theirselves without thinking about it.

Guess they are not "True muslims" as SK would say LOL

[Gunsgirlsnglory]

If you think about it, if women are willing to put their life on the line for terrorists, so be it. And if they get shot, that is one less woman who can get pregnant by one of those dirtbags and produce more little terrorists.

[frankenstein]

Why is this happening??? Think about what the traditional view of Muslims is towards women. Women are basically baby factories, not human beings. A woman is not supposed to be educated or have any opinions. Not only is she not equal, she is property. With that kind of outlook towards women, it shouldn't be a surprise that some terrorists coward behind women- the terrorists are the brainwashed nutbags who see the women shields the same way I see my dog or my car.

[mugz101]

Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja

I've posted multiple video clips showing Hezbollah using civilian homes as shields.

Those videos dont prove anything. It fails to provide sufficient evidence that they are hezballah, and i cant see how videos with such ****ty quality can prove that they were hezbollah.

Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja

And when you speak of "indiscriminate attacks", have a look at Hezbollah that shot rockets randomly into Israel to terrorize the civilian population.

indiscriminate attacks?.. Israel have lazer guided missles. The attacks killed over 900 ppl dead and 1/3 of them bieng children. Hezballah shoot randomly and are still able to minimise the amount of civillian calualties compared to military casualties, so when you speak ok "indiscriminate attacks" Israel tops the list.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5242732.stm?ls

[Itchy Nads]

Originally Posted by mugz101

Those videos dont prove anything. It fails to provide sufficient evidence that they are hezballah, and i cant see how videos with such ****ty quality can prove that they were hezbollah.


indiscriminate attacks?.. Israel have lazer guided missles. The attacks killed over 900 ppl dead and 1/3 of them bieng children. Hezballah shoot randomly and are still able to minimise the amount of civillian calualties compared to military casualties, so when you speak ok "indiscriminate attacks" Israel tops the list.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5242732.stm?ls

You're a joke. Laser guided missiles are fine. But if they are aimed at terrorists who hide amongst women and children, guess who are gonna get hit?

Think of it as payback for not giving a **** about - or attempting to stop - Palestinian terrorists detonating suicide bombs in public places, killing scores of women and children at a time.

[mugz101]

Originally Posted by Itchy Nads

You're a joke. Laser guided missiles are fine. But if they are aimed at terrorists who hide amongst women and children, guess who are gonna get hit?

There is no solid proof of this, if there was i would believe that they are terrorists.. but there isnt, so until you show me some rock solid evidence then you can stfu.

Originally Posted by Itchy Nads

Think of it as payback for not giving a **** about - or attempting to stop - Palestinian terrorists detonating suicide bombs in public places, killing scores of women and children at a time.

I guess using tanks and planes to kill women are children are better methods then? ok dude, you could use some statistics.. http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

I guess your the joke now..

[NuggzTheNinja]

Originally Posted by mugz101

There is no solid proof of this, if there was i would believe that they are terrorists.. but there isnt, so until you show me some rock solid evidence then you can stfu.


I guess using tanks and planes to kill women are children are better methods then? ok dude, you could use some statistics.. http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

I guess your the joke now..

They're quite obviously Hezbollah.

Hezbollah also used a UN position as cover during its rocket attacks.

You can say "oh it's not teh Hezbollah no way, terrorists would never do that!", but you're clearly in denial.

[mugz101]

Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja

They're quite obviously Hezbollah.

Prove it.

Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja

You can say "oh it's not teh Hezbollah no way, terrorists would never do that!", but you're clearly in denial.

Im not in denial, i just dont base my statements on weak evidence.

[NuggzTheNinja]

Originally Posted by mugz101

Prove it.


Im not in denial, i just dont base my statements on weak evidence.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Hezbollah1.jpg

This is what Hezbollah's launchers are like: built into vehicles.

The video shows THE EXACT SAME TYPE OF LAUNCHER.

What the hell makes you believe that it's NOT Hezbollah?

[Itchy Nads]

Originally Posted by mugz101

There is no solid proof of this, if there was i would believe that they are terrorists.. but there isnt, so until you show me some rock solid evidence then you can stfu.


I guess using tanks and planes to kill women are children are better methods then? ok dude, you could use some statistics.. http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

I guess your the joke now..

Is that all you idiots come up with? "You have no solid proof?" Fuck, someone could shoot an up close video of a Hezbollah fighter claiming he is a Hezbollah fighter, show him killing some innocent Jewish person - then you'd claim, "Both were Jewish, and the video is fake".

Using tanks and planes to kill women and children is certainly more intelligent and logical - both in terms of kills per hit, and preserving yourself for later missions - than detonating a suicide bomb.

[mugz101]

Originally Posted by Itchy Nads

Is that all you idiots come up with? "You have no solid proof?" Fuck, someone could shoot an up close video of a Hezbollah fighter claiming he is a Hezbollah fighter, show him killing some innocent Jewish person - then you'd claim, "Both were Jewish, and the video is fake".

If there were such a video then yes, but instead u have some crappy ass video that shows no detail at all which doesnt confirm it is hezbollah.

Originally Posted by Itchy Nads

Using tanks and planes to kill women and children is certainly more intelligent and logical - both in terms of kills per hit, and preserving yourself for later missions - than detonating a suicide bomb.

then i guess its better to use planes and tanks since they kill more innocents.. Nice logic.

[NuggzTheNinja]

Originally Posted by mugz101

If there were such a video then yes, but instead u have some crappy ass video that shows no detail at all which doesnt confirm it is hezbollah.


then i guess its better to use planes and tanks since they kill more innocents.. Nice logic.

I'm not gonna argue with you about this anymore.

Any rational human being can see that the launcher in that picture is the launcher in the video: a multiple rocket system built into a truck popular with Hezbollah.

The reason it doesn't have video-game quality detail is because it was shot from an Israeli plane or UAV (depending on which one you saw).

Even the most advanced FLIR systems won't give you amazing detail.

But, I guess that's not enough, because nomatter what you won't admit that Hezbollah hides behind civilians and the UN, and that Hezbollah indiscriminately bombs civilian populations.

Like a little baby boy, really it's childish but that's why I'm pulling the eject lever. Come back to discuss this when you grow up.

[mugz101]

Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Hezbollah1.jpg

This is what Hezbollah's launchers are like: built into vehicles.

The video shows THE EXACT SAME TYPE OF LAUNCHER

Show me this particular video you are talking about.

Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja

What the hell makes you believe that it's NOT Hezbollah?

What the hell makes you belive it is? because isreali media tells you so?.. what a load of bs

[NuggzTheNinja]

Since you asked...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=...&v=KM35dzT9dUI

OBVIOUSLY a pickup with a rocket launcher on the back, 100% Hezbollah style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CevZD...elated&search=

Hezbollah launcher unloads then heads straight for civilian homes! Yay!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Qdl...elated&search=

Hezbollah shooting rockets out of Kfar Qana from where they say they *don't* shoot rockets. Hmmmm...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRsSx...elated&search=

Interrogation of Hezbollah terrorist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9juGm...elated&search=

Hezbollah doesn't rocket civilians? These are civilians hit by a Hezbollah rocket full of ball bearings. Lovely. An old man sitting in his home nailed by a rocket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGhZm...elated&search=

Hezbollah using civilian homes for cover.

[NuggzTheNinja]

Since you asked...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=...&v=KM35dzT9dUI

OBVIOUSLY a pickup with a rocket launcher on the back, 100% Hezbollah style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CevZD...elated&search=

Hezbollah launcher unloads then heads straight for civilian homes! Yay!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Qdl...elated&search=

Hezbollah shooting rockets out of Kfar Qana from where they say they *don't* shoot rockets. Hmmmm...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRsSx...elated&search=

View of a Hezbollah launcher just before it's destroyed by a laser guided missile. Way to go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1B8W...elated&search=

[mugz101]

Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja

I'm not gonna argue with you about this anymore.

Any rational human being can see that the launcher in that picture is the launcher in the video: a multiple rocket system built into a truck popular with Hezbollah.

The reason it doesn't have video-game quality detail is because it was shot from an Israeli plane or UAV (depending on which one you saw).

Even the most advanced FLIR systems won't give you amazing detail.

Do you see, thats the problem. You cant just claim this is Hezbollah, its nieve.

Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja

But, I guess that's not enough, because nomatter what you won't admit that Hezbollah hides behind civilians and the UN, and that.

I wont admit somthing that is false. The claims you make are false and i know this for a FACT. My pearents are from the south and i have never heard of such bull**** that hezbollah were hiding in homes with civillians in them. If they were then i would aknowledge that they were using people as human shields.

Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja

Hezbollah indiscriminately bombs civilian populations..

Look at the civillian death tolls buddy. 24 israeli civillians to 900+ lebanese.

[NuggzTheNinja]

Originally Posted by mugz101

Do you see, thats the problem. You cant just claim this is Hezbollah, its nieve.


I wont admit somthing that is false. The claims you make are false and i know this for a FACT. My pearents are from the south and i have never heard of such bull**** that hezbollah were hiding in homes with civillians in them. If they were then i would aknowledge that they were using people as human shields.

Look at the civillian death tolls buddy. 24 israeli civillians to 900+ lebanese.

Well then your parents are either ignorant or they're full of ****, because I just posted a bunch of videos that show your parents to be f-cking liars.

It's not Israel's fault that Hezbollah is completely inept. The death toll wouldn't be so high if they wouldn't hide amongst civilians.

Go cry to Hezbollah that they can't kill Jews well enough. If they could, they would. Outcome does not make intent, but I guess that wisdom is lost on someone that doesn't believe what puts before his eyes. What a stupid f-ck.

I'm out of this thread.

Any rational human being can see that Hezbollah terrorists use civilians for human shields, and at this point you just look stupid trying to deny it.

[Chowboy]

If Nuggz proof isn't enough for you here is some more:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/comme...2622-2090r.htm