how to make an LTR work? Just act like a piece of s**t to her once in awhile

[Charuto222]

I've given some advice in the past on how to score a quick lay and the common belief around here seems to lean toward the notion that I can only help people in those regards, but fret not monogamy advocates! I have some valueable information for you as well, so pull up a seat and enjoy!

Anyone who knows the first thing about the male/female dynamic knows this: Testosterone driven = logic driven while estrogen driven = emotionally driven. Women are very emotional, so much so that they often act very very irrational. This brings us to a question which perplexes a lot of guys, why do women go for jerks over nice guys? (and by nice guy I don't mean a guy with common courtesy, I'm talking about the full blown flaming vagina supplicating bitch serve her every whim type of nice guy).

Those of you who have studied seduction may say that jerks are more masculine than the alleged "nice guy" and the feminine naturally gravitates toward the masculine. This sounds good on paper, but I challenge this notion, as I know many jerks who are quite feminine and still get laid at will, and I know some nice guys who are strong and masculine, yet they don't get laid as much as the "feminine" jerks.

So why, then, would a woman go for a jerk over a nice guy? Well, think about it, if women are emotional creatures, they are going to go for the guy who instills them with emotion right? What does the nice guy do? He caters to her every whim and tries so hard to keep her feeling good, and while he's good for an ego stroke, he is otherwise worthless to her emotions.

Jerks, on the other hand, will show her warm intimacy one night, taking her emotions on a high, and then perhaps the very next day he will be a total ass to her and bring her down low, then he lathers, rinses, adn repeats, thus taking her on an EMOTIONAL ROLLER COASTER RIDE. This is what women CRAVE, they NEED it, this kind of drama is like heroin to them, they must have it AT ALL COSTS. Why do you think women are into soaps and romance novels? The story-lines are mostly garbage, but the dramatic emotional rollercoaster within catches a woman's attention and ensnares her.

This is also why your last gf would start fights with you over stupid **** no matter how hard you tried to please her. In fact, chances are that she started that fight with you BECAUSE you tried too hard to please her, she got bored because you didn't bring any drama into her life, you weren't taking her on the emotional highs and lows that she craves. See, women are so hopelessly addicted to this drama that she will even resort to making her significant other feel like **** in order to get her fix, which means that if you don't give her the emotional rollercoaster ride that she wants, she will start it herself, and you will be the target. Some women are so addicted to this drama that they will put up with a cheating boyfriend becuase the cheating brings her down wayyy low before he shows her intimacy again to bring her back to a high and she gets off on it.

Okay, let's recap. You've tried your best to keep her on an emotional high at all times and how does she thank you? By bringing herself down from that high...and taking you with her in many cases. You've tried so hard to please her and she goes off and ruins it all, what does this mean? Well, simply put, it means you haven't really been pleasing her at all. Take comfort, however, for to truly please her, to truly give her what she wants, is actually FAR EASIER than trying to keep her on an emotional high all the time.

Yes, that's right, you've worked hard to give her what you THINK she wants, but what she ACTUALLY wants is much EASIER to give to her. In fact, it's so insanely easy that if you just act naturally with no regard to what the external world expects of you, chances are you will give her what she wants without even thinking about it and you'll both be happy. Neat huh?

By this point in time, you have probably figured out for yourself that the way to keep the LTR going well without having to fight over trivial bull**** is to bring her off of her high from time to time and drag her down into the realm of negativity. How to do this? Just act like a piece of **** once in awhile. Here are some situational examples.

- If she's always asking you "we're going to be together forever aren't we baby?" and your typical response is "of course my love" try responding with "no, I'm bored of you, I want some fresh new meat" and leave her to wonder if you were joking.

- If she asks you "am I getting fat?" Respond with something like "no, it should be obvious because if you were I would've left you long ago"

- If she's rambling and you're bored of listening to her drivel, start letting your head droop and pretend like you're struggling to stay awake and if she doesn't get the hint then shut your eyes and start snoring really loud and obnoxiously

etc. you get the idea

Note: If you're used to being america's sweetheart all the time, suddenly using one of the aforementioned ideas may be too sudden for her so it may be a good idea to start small and work your way up.

As a precautionary measure, stay away from sexuality when you act like an ass to her, most women are EXTREMELY sensitive about their sexuality and if you make her feel like it is being threatened she will likely become undesireably insecure with you.

So the bottom line is that you simply can't try to please her all the time, just be an ass once in awhile between your sessions of showing warmth and love, this is how you find balance in the jerk/nice guy spectrum and keep her on the exciting emotional ride that she so desperately desires. And most importantly, have fun with it! Giving her the ride is every bit as fun as it is for the women to take the ride, so enjoy!

[comebakthursday]

Semi good advice.

I will call you on a contridiction. You say steer away from comments about their sexuality because they can become insecure. Then you say make a unclear comment about her weight. Then leave them to wonder if you are serious, so then if she takes you seriously, then realizes she gained weight, or THINKS she did(like every girl every day) then she will become very insecure as well.

[Charuto222]

Originally Posted by comebakthursday

Semi good advice.

I will call you on a contridiction. You say steer away from comments about their sexuality because they can become insecure. Then you say make a unclear comment about her weight. Then leave them to wonder if you are serious, so then if she takes you seriously, then realizes she gained weight, or THINKS she did(like every girl every day) then she will become very insecure as well.

Actually, I never advocated saying anything about her weight, I advocated making a joke about how you would have left her if she were getting fat.

It's a good observation and yes, if you actually told your girl that she were gaining weight it prolly wouldn't evoke a positive response, but thta's why I never said to do it Not to mention, when you make a girl insecure about her weight it's not as bad as making her insecure about her sexuality. When you make her insecure about her weight you only make her insecure about what she considers to be one aspect of her sexuality, compare that to making her insecure about her sexuality altogether...

What this all boils down to is this: Don't be thoughtlessly critical of her. Just drop some douche-bag comments here and there. If you try to be America's sweetheart all the time you're going to have a ****ty ass relationship and she may even end up taking advatage of/cheating on you. If you act like a dick all the time you may or may not succeed with the relationship but it's still going to be very spiritually unhealthy for you. The middle way is the best way, this is how you get her on the emotional rollercoaster that she so desperately craves.

[ShreddedShruggin]

There is no way in hell i'm reading all of that. And seeing as i have nothing more to contribute to this thread, i guess i'll be going now

-Grimface

[user23960508710783]

Originally Posted by Still_Shruggin

There is no way in hell i'm reading all of that. And seeing as i have nothing more to contribute to this thread, i guess i'll be going now

-Grimface

Well, I for one am not going to let the fact that I read very little of that post prevent me from expressing a view on it.

It seems like he is just saying you have oscillate between good and bad behavior. Just ask yourself this: would you like the sex with your woman better if she oscillated between giving you good sex and giving you bad sex?

Or would you rather it was just good the whole way through?

[Charuto222]

Originally Posted by Jean-Paul4447

Well, I for one am not going to let the fact that I read very little of that post prevent me from expressing a view on it.

It seems like he is just saying you have oscillate between good and bad behavior. Just ask yourself this: would you like the sex with your woman better if she oscillated between giving you good sex and giving you bad sex?

Or would you rather it was just good the whole way through?

Of course I would rather it is good the whole way through but I am a man. Women don't like being on an emotional high all the time. read my post and it will make sense to you.

Still shruggin had the right idea by not expressing an opinion without having read the entire thread my friend

[Ace_2004]

Relationships are too much drama, this is why i choose to stay single...i really cant be assed with the emotional roller coaster, i'd much rather just bang random chicks and carry on doing what i want and living the way i want without a chick relying on me.

[GriT-]

Originally Posted by Ace_2004

Relationships are too much drama, this is why i choose to stay single...i really cant be assed with the emotional roller coaster, i'd much rather just bang random chicks and carry on doing what i want and living the way i want without a chick relying on me.

Amen.

[AHood]

with out evil is there really good. its a balance. its like the pavlovs dog experiment if you reward them everytime they become used to it and its no longer significant. if you keep them guessing they wont know what to expect and then you have them trained.