Getting Ready to Do First Injection -Pls help

[Eos1]

All right Everyone,

Please take a moment to read and answer these questions and hopefully we can turn this thread into a great reference source for all first timers...

I am getting ready to do my first injectable cycle and have everything stocked up. I have enough Test Enanthate to do a 500 mg / week cycle for 11 weeks. Got Nolva at hand in case gyno rears its ugly head. I have support supplements to keep things healthy and the prostate under control. I have HCG and Clomid for PCT and am stocked on good, clean bulking food. My Test E is 250 mg / ml and I will be doing one shot of 2 cc each week.

The only thing I am a little worried about is the injections and I want your help on this. Before you call me a whiny little bit@h for being afraid of needless, let me assure you that I don’t mind needless one bit. The only thing that is worrying me is the possibility of ****ing something up with injections and then having to stop the cycle due to an abscess or something like that. So I am trying to learn as much about injections as I can –and yes, I have read howtodoinjections.com and spotinjections.com but still got a few questions. I hope this thread will grow and serve as a very comprehensive guide for everyone like me in the future. Here it goes:

In order to minimize soreness and some of the injection coming back out, I am thinking of using a 25 gauge needle (1.5 inc long) and shooting into the glute. I am reading that this is kind of small and you will need to push the oil through relatively slowly but as long as you give a steady push all should be well. Since I will be doing one shot per week, I will rotate the right and left sides, so each side will get hit once every two weeks. Does that sound good?

I have practiced with a pen to see if I can reach the glute and the answer is that I can. However, I cannot be super precise when reaching back. I will simply aim for the upper/outer part of the glute. Is that good enough?

If I use a 1.5 inch needle, how far do I have to push it in? All the way? 1 inch? How do I know if I have gone too deep?

Also, should I use iodine solution to clean the injection area instead of alcohol? I think iodine is stronger in terms of antibacterial properties, so why not use that instead of the weaker alcohol? How about using iodine on the top of the vial also, or would that be a bad idea?

The vets always tell you to inject slowly so it does not stretch the fasci too quickly. How slowly do you have to inject 2 mls of solution? Shold I take 10 seconds, 30 seconds, 1 minute????

As I said, my Test E is 250 mg/ml. DO I have to "cut it" with sterile oil or do I simply take it into the syringe from the vial and shoot into the glute right away?

Finally, what is the consensus on massaging the area after injection? Some say it reduces the soreness the day after, some say that it is a bad idea because the tissue is already swollen and fascia is already stretched. By massaging you make fascia tears more likely they say. These people claim that you should just leave the area alone and let the solution slowly dissipate.

Any other input will be greatly appreciated.

[spoonman]

I didnt feel like reading your entire post so instead I'll just detail the simple process.

Take an alcohol swab and swab the top of the vial and the area where you will inject.

Draw up the desired amount of oil into your syringe. Recap the syringe and twist off the needle. Then twist on the fresh one for injection.

If you are injecting with a 1.5" into glutes, stick it all the way in and slowly push the stopper. You should push in at a rate of 10 seconds per ml of oil.

Then, pull the needle halfway out and let it sit for 15 seconds. This will make sure no blood or anything comes out and the oil disperses.

Massage it after if needed.

I use 20g 1.5" to draw oil
23G 1.5" for injecting glutes...no pain at all

[sikboy]

www.spotinjections.com

I could teach a 4 year old to inject its that easy, there is no valid excuse for not injecting, you are experiencing fear that you will **** it up because its new and ya never done it b4, after you done your first couple of injections, you will think you were being stupid for fearing such an easy process.

Draw with an 18-20 gauge, inject glutes with a 23 g 1.5 inch, 25 g 1 inch for everywhere else.

Swab the site with an alcohol swab, then push the pin in very slowly, keep the pressure on until its all the way in, then pull back on plunger, if air comes, inject slowly, if blood comes, pull out and start over.

After the injection you may see some blood, because ya just poked yourself and your full of blood, put some cotton wool or the alcohol swab where you are bleeding and apply pressure for a min or so, when it stops bleeding your done.

You will know how fast to inject only when ya do it, if you inject to fast, you will feel a little sting in the muscle, this means you should slow it down a little.

You can use iodine NP.

[NJP_MAN]

You should not fear injecting to fast with a 25ga. It will probably take over a minute to get that oil through the pin. Just my experience with the 25's.

[kickitupanotch]

just remember to go slow man.... REAL slow. My first time I pushed the oil in way too fast and omfg did it hurt for days.

[jimmytftw35]

It says you are going to shot 2cc once a week , you should divide that into 2 injections one on monday and one on thursday to keep your test levels on an even scale . I found heating the test in a bath of hot water for a couple of minutes before drawing into the syringe helps out alot . Don't forget to start your pct 2 weeks after your last injection.

[lickmybigboy]

Originally Posted by sikboy

www.spotinjections.com

I could teach a 4 year old to inject its that easy, there is no valid excuse for not injecting, you are experiencing fear that you will **** it up because its new and ya never done it b4, after you done your first couple of injections, you will think you were being stupid for fearing such an easy process.

Draw with an 18-20 gauge, inject glutes with a 23 g 1.5 inch, 25 g 1 inch for everywhere else.

Swab the site with an alcohol swab, then push the pin in very slowly, keep the pressure on until its all the way in, then pull back on plunger, if air comes, inject slowly, if blood comes, pull out and start over.

After the injection you may see some blood, because ya just poked yourself and your full of blood, put some cotton wool or the alcohol swab where you are bleeding and apply pressure for a min or so, when it stops bleeding your done.

You will know how fast to inject only when ya do it, if you inject to fast, you will feel a little sting in the muscle, this means you should slow it down a little.

You can use iodine NP.

simple isnt it....

[Vail]

Originally Posted by Eos1

Also, should I use iodine solution to clean the injection area instead of alcohol? I think iodine is stronger in terms of antibacterial properties, so why not use that instead of the weaker alcohol? How about using iodine on the top of the vial also, or would that be a bad idea?

Ugh, dont use iodine. The iodine is brown and you have to wash off everything it touches afterwards. Sometimes it can leave some stain even after washing. To my knowledge Iodine is only used when a person is not tolerent to alcohol wips(this is from working in a medical office where we used needles on every patient). I do wipe the top of the vial with an alcohol.

Side note: One day i was talking to the Doctor i was working with and she said that using the alcohol wipes is a waste of time, and that some of the doctors that taught her in medical school didnt use them at all because apparently it takes over five minutes for the wipes to kill most of the bacteria. I guess when you just wipe and poke it is more of a mental thing... doing so makes you feel better, safer, cleaner.

That being said, i always use alcohol wipes everytime. Because its cheap and they're bound to make it so there are less bacteria now then there were before. I also tend to wipe where ever im injecting before drawing the compound into the syringe or anything so that by the time I'm ready its about 5 min from when i wiped to when i pin.

[Test-Freak]

Here are some sites that will help.

http://www.steroidtips.com/inject.htm

http://www.steroid.com/inject.php

http://www.howtodoinjections.com/

[Amatuer]

Just stick with 2cc once per week, why give yourself more injections then needed I dont understand.

Your not gonna notice any difference between once per week or twice per week with a 10 day ester so less jabs = less hassle.