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Uprising in IRAN!!!!!!!!
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LATEST UPDATE - all phones in the area of the Ayatollah's house have been disconnected and his numbers, which worked till just now have a recording saying "they never existed".
Monitored from live communication with Iran and the Ayatollah Boroujerdi himself by Voice of Iran Radio (KRSI) and local citizens calling in from Tehran to KRSI.
Shots were being fired around the Ayatollah's home at Sard (cold) Park, Avesta Avenue, Sard Street #9 close to Freedom Square. Fires are springing up in the region at major intersections. Ambulance sirens scream futiley as Tehran citizens pour toward that address blocking streets to prevent Security forces from getting close but also blocking the paramedics and ambulances.
Distress calls from wounded men and women fill the air waves as what they describe as total war is erupting. KRSI, which covers all of Iran, constantly broadcasts calls for the populace to rise up, urging them to make the most of this opportunity.
Said Ghayem-Maghami, the announcer of KRSI repeatedly urges all provinces, cities, professions to revolt against the current regime. He also broadcasts live all suggestions provided by Tehran citizens to wake everyone up and let them know something is up.
Ayatollah Boroujerdi, blockaded on the roof of his home, has used the phone contact broadcast with KRSI to declare that anyone in the Security forces who respects him as their spiritual source should lay down their arms and not harm anyone.
Other Ayatollahs like Mehdi Haeri have come on live to urge the people not to set gas stations on fire or do other damage as these sugestions phoned into KRSI come from the Security forces agents.
Ayatollah Haeri added that fasting during this crisis in the month of Ramadan is not required, giving the example of the urgency of a house catching on fire compared to a lower urgency of fasting. He insisted that religion and politics has to be separate and that the populace should support the brve efforts of Ayatollah Boroujerdi.
Meanwhile Mohssein Ejai, Minister of Information and Security (MOIS), has promised Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei that he will bring him Ayatollah Boroujerdi's severed head before dawn.
In the first serious clash with the old guard Mullahs, the Hojatieh fringe sect of the Ahmadi-Nejad administration sent security forces around 10 a.m. (Tehran time) Saturday, to arrest Ayatollah Seyed Hossein Kazeymeni Boroujerdi, son of the Ayatollah of the same name, killed by the Khomeini Islamic regime.
His father was so respected by the late Shah of Iran that when questions about religion arose for which the Shah wanted advice, the monarch would drive down to the holy city of Qom to speak to the Ayatollah instead of ordering him to Tehran.
The younger Ayatollah Boroujerdi recently declared that the national Administrative Government of Iran should be separated from the Clerics and become purely secular. Religion and Politics must be separated he said, live on KRSI.
The current Islamic regime's reaction was to issue death warrant for him falsely claiming apostasy by him because he was said by them to have claimed to be the 12th Imam, who disappeared down a well 1300 years ago and will return to redeem the world.
His followers resisted the efforts of the Security Agents sent during the afternoon to capture the Ayatollah and the on-going confrontation has resulted with multiple arrests, estimated by the Ayatollah himself in a live phone interview as being several thousand people. His people, who rushed to protect him also took several security agents hostage, finding bottles of acid in their pockets, intended to disfigure demonstrators.
The mostly foreign, generally Arab national, Bassiji paramilitary forces, whose total role is to suppress any street demonstration and have been recently equipped with over $500 million of equipment and weaponry and appear in both civilian clothes and uniforms, attacked on motorcycles but were repulsed and several of their motorcycles set on fire.
They brought in eight tanker trucks that propel boiling water onto demonstrators but streets were soon blocked and their efforts curtailed. Currently, regime forces have surrounded the area and blocked major access. Clashes at crossroads initially drove security forces back but reinforcements managed to set up a cordon and hold it.
One panicked caller to KRSI at around 2:15 a.m. (TT) screamed that he had been spotted by the regime mercenaries and had been given refuge inside a nearby house but that the agents were kicking in the door. He pleaded with KRSI to give out his name and remind people that he was about to be arrested and might never be seen again.
Several of those wounded and finding refuge in Ayatollah Boroujerdi's house were women. One an Armenian woman, not a Moslem, called on minorities and specially Armenians, to rush to the Ayatollah's support and to come into the streets. Another woman, a baby in her arms, a club in her hand was seen standing guard at Ayatollah Boroujerdi's ready to face anything the regime would throw at her. Including confiscating the bread and food that those at the residence required to break their Ramadan fast.
Calls by Tehranis demanded Ahmad Hossein Khomeini, the Islamic regime founder's grandson and Ayatollah Montazeri, should join in the resistance and defend Ayatollah Boroujerdi. Other calls wanted the late Shah's son Reza Pahlavi to join the fray and call on the West to provide tangible support to his countrymen in their time of need at this moment of opportunity.
Another caller mentioned that every single one of about 300,000 Bahais in Iran had been recently identified and listed, including their addresses, and wondered if this was an indicator that a slaughter of these thorns in the side of the Hojatieh as about to happen. Bahais claim to follow their spiritual leader is the 12th Imam, who has already returned.
Meanwhile, in a dramatic gesture of defiance, Ayatollah Boroujerdi carrying his burial shroud and a sword paces the roof of his home.
Observers and analysts hope that if the resistance can survive through the night, in the morning, people who sleep unaware of what is going on will join the uprising. Some of those woken up at random by phone calls showed very little interest, responding that replacing one Mullah with another gets them nowhere, so why risk their lives.
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hmm, interesting times in Iran.
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10-07-2006, 08:55 PM
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10-07-2006, 08:56 PM
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Where'd you get this from?
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antimullah.com It has been on the radio a few times today, I'm trying to find an AP source for this story, but it seems like one group in particular is trying to foment conflict to remove the current government. I'd love to hear from someone who is currently in Iran or has family there.
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wow...this is the day that most (remember i said most  ) iranians have been waiting for...lets just hope something productive happens and the mullahs get their asses handed to them
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Wow, when did this start? And how come this isn't on CNN?
I'll check Al-Jazeera right now.
EDIT: I can't find anything about this elsewhere. I smell BS, but I'll still give you the benefit of the doubt for now.
Maybe Trance can check with family if he has any in Iran?
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Wow, when did this start? And how come this isn't on CNN?
I'll check Al-Jazeera right now.
EDIT: I can't find anything about this elsewhere. I smell BS, but I'll still give you the benefit of the doubt for now.
Maybe Trance can check with family if he has any in Iran?
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It "started" a few days ago.
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10-07-2006, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by EOY
Wow, when did this start? And how come this isn't on CNN?
I'll check Al-Jazeera right now.
EDIT: I can't find anything about this elsewhere. I smell BS, but I'll still give you the benefit of the doubt for now.
Maybe Trance can check with family if he has any in Iran?
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Either this is a very elaborate hoax, or a lot of people are being kept in the dark about this, either intentionally or unintentionally, but this site has been pretty accurate, as they depicted the events of 2005 before any Western media caught on. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
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Originally Posted by ElMariachi
Either this is a very elaborate hoax, or a lot of people are being kept in the dark about this, either intentionally or unintentionally, but this site has been pretty accurate, as they depicted the events of 2005 before any Western media caught on. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
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I think it is fair to guess that there is some exaggeration (of the scope, potential significance, etc), though the broad frame of the story is likely true.
btw, local time in Iran is now 7:04 AM (11:34 PM Eastern Time)
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Either this is a very elaborate hoax, or a lot of people are being kept in the dark about this, either intentionally or unintentionally, but this site has been pretty accurate, as they depicted the events of 2005 before any Western media caught on. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
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If it was a big deal I'd hear about it by now from family and friends in Iran.
So far, I have heard nothing.
Plus, eversince the revolution people have been talking about bringing the government down. Every year something new is supposed to happen to bring down the mullahs.
It's been 25+ years and nothing so far.
So, let's not get excited YET.
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Originally Posted by TranceNRG
. Every year something new is supposed to happen to bring down the mullahs.
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What do *most* Iranians honestly feel about the mullahs?
What type of government would they rather have?
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10-07-2006, 10:22 PM
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What do *most* Iranians honestly feel about the mullahs?
What type of government would they rather have?
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Whoever interferes with the government agenda, needs to watch his/her back. Whoever lives an unpolitical life with a good job, will have a great time, in Iran.
AND... the majority of people, regardless of their socio-economic positions, support the nuclear program that Iran is pursuing. SO, ANY foreign attempts to supress this program will ONLY further unite the people together.
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Trance, you realize that these muslims you support would kill you over there for trying to even be among them?
Your white bro, sorry, but you'd be an outcast and probably beheaded.
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i've heard absolutely nothing
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Trance, you realize that these muslims you support would kill you over there for trying to even be among them?
Your white bro, sorry, but you'd be an outcast and probably beheaded.
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I saw someone use this word before and i thought it was great so I'm going to use it to describe Trance, JACKASSERY.
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Trance, you realize that these muslims you support would kill you over there for trying to even be among them?
Your white bro, sorry, but you'd be an outcast and probably beheaded.
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You're far away from reality.
The image you have created in your mind is nothing short of a fiction. No offence, but things are NOT the way you think they are.
I have been there.
I have friends and family there.
People don't go around beheading other people there.
I support anything if it's in accordance to Islam, if not then I won't support it, muslim or non-muslims alike.
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I saw someone use this word before and i thought it was great so I'm going to use it to describe Trance, JACKASSERY.
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yay... want a cookie?
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10-07-2006, 11:53 PM
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Amazing...BBC, CBC, CNN have ALL missed this "Breaking News"
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Amazing...BBC, CBC, CNN have ALL missed this "Breaking News"

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Mark Foley is not in Iran unfortunately, no need for them to report anything going on there.
Thanks for the neg for simply passing on information thats already available on the internet..but let me guess, I just made the whole thing up, creatively put together all these links and paragraphs, right???
Here is a radio link to the Iranian station that is pushing this information. http://www.krsi.net/us-en/livewebcast.asp
It would be helpful if someone here understood Farsi
Another website containing a link to this story
http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publ...le_18143.shtml
http://www.payvand.com/news/06/oct/1070.html
http://www.opendemocracy.net/democra...ollah_3965.jsp
Good articles too, this guy seems to be pretty moderate and highly logical too. Check this out!
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'People Have Turned Away From God'
Boroujerdi says many Iranians have lost faith in religion because of the worsening economic situation, including high inflation and unemployment.
He argues that under the shah's regime, people's faith in Islam was much stronger. He thinks belief in God has actually fallen victim to Iran's theocracy.
"When people lose their income, they directly blame the establishment and they become angry at God," Boroujerdi says. "I've said many times that we should help people worship their God again and make peace with God. Today we are in the month of Ramadan, [but] many people have turned away from God because of repression, discrimination, and pressure."
One of the ayatollah's devotees, Hamid, tells RFE/RL that Boroujerdi's views and defiance have won him support from Iranians of different classes.
"Ayatollah Boroujerdi has never polluted religion with politics," Hamid says. "He has not become involved in politics, and he has always supported the needy. He has always said, 'I'm a supporter of the wretched.' This is, I think, one of the reasons for his popularity."
Hamid says he is ready to support the ayatollah even "until martyrdom."
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Good articles too, this guy seems to be pretty moderate and highly logical too. Check this out!
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I strongly agree with Ayatollah Boroujerdi when he said:
"'People Have Turned Away From God'
Boroujerdi says many Iranians have lost faith in religion because of the worsening economic situation, including high inflation and unemployment.
He argues that under the shah's regime, people's faith in Islam was much stronger. He thinks belief in God has actually fallen victim to Iran's theocracy.
"When people lose their income, they directly blame the establishment and they become angry at God," Boroujerdi says. "I've said many times that we should help people worship their God again and make peace with God. Today we are in the month of Ramadan, [but] many people have turned away from God because of repression, discrimination, and pressure."
I have seen it first hand.
More and more Persians are turning away from Islam, not realizing Islam is not the problem but the politically corrupted "mullahs" are.
such a sad situation.
Plus, it's not the first time they have imprisoned defiant ayatollahs.
Any scholar who hold a different view from them is often held prisoner, mainly at his own home though.
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I have seen it first hand.
More and more Persians are turning away from Islam, not realizing Islam is not the problem but the politically corrupted "mullahs" are.
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I have always wondered about this, just from the number of Iranian atheists and agnostics that I have talked to. There seem to be more "ex-Muslims" coming from Iran than any other Muslim nation.
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I have always wondered about this, just from the number of Iranian atheists and agnostics that I have talked to. There seem to be more "ex-Muslims" coming from Iran than any other Muslim nation.
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Yes...
That is correct.
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Trance, you realize that these muslims you support would kill you over there for trying to even be among them?
Your white bro, sorry, but you'd be an outcast and probably beheaded.
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that was obviously sarcasm? Since alot of Persians are "white"
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that was obviously sarcasm? Since alot of Persians are "white"
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lol. Unfortunately, it isn't  .
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Originally Posted by LionofJud@h
Trance, you realize that these muslims you support would kill you over there for trying to even be among them?
Your white bro, sorry, but you'd be an outcast and probably beheaded.
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LOL...that gave me a good laugh
thanks
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2541730
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Good find, but it doesn't sound nearly as dramatic as the OP's article suggests.
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"The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"
Replace "sky" with "caliphate/islamofascist state."
200 people?! Wow!!! REVOLUTION!!!
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