Found out why I have trouble with Eye contact and talking to people (not just girls)

[SeizedByForce]

I have Aberger's Syndrome. Yes, funny name, and yes, I've known that I've had it. The thing is, I didn't know that this was the cause. Seems the only bad things about Asberger's is bad handwriting and poor social skills, and eye contact is almost impossible. Everything else is good - Most "aspies" have above normal intelligence and usually excell in the fields of Mathematics, Science, Social Studies, Language, and Music. It is also rumored that albert einstein had AS.

I quote from wikipedia:

Unlike other pervasive development disorders, most children with AS want to be social, but fail to socialize successfully, which can lead to later withdrawal and asocial behavior, especially in adolescence.

Social differences

Although there is no single feature that all people with AS share, difficulties with social behavior are nearly universal and are one of the most important defining criteria. People with AS lack the natural ability to see the subtexts of social interaction, and may lack the ability to communicate their own emotional state, resulting in well-meaning remarks that may offend, or finding it hard to know what is "acceptable". The unwritten rules of social behavior that mystify so many with AS have been termed the "hidden curriculum". People with AS must learn these social skills intellectually rather than intuitively.

Non-AS's are able to gather information about other people's cognitive and emotional states based on clues gleaned from the environment and other people's facial expression and body language, but, in this respect, people with AS are impaired; this is sometimes called mind-blindness. Mind-blindness involves an impaired ability to: read others' feelings, understand intended meanings, gauge level of interest in a conversation, take into account others' level of knowledge and predict someone's reaction to a comment or action.

Some people with AS make very little eye contact because it triggers a possible threat response, whereas others have unmodulated, staring eye contact that can cause discomfort in other people. Similarly, the use of gestures may be almost nonexistent or may seem exaggerated and differ from what would normally be considered the most appropriate for a situation.

A person with AS may have trouble understanding the emotions of other people: the messages that are conveyed by facial expression, eye contact and body language are often missed. They also might have trouble showing empathy with other people. (I always wondered why i never cried when one of my relatives died, or felt any remorse for the people who died on 9/11, or just felt any emotion when I got something I really wanted, or any other time when I should have) Thus, people with AS might be seen as egotistical, selfish or uncaring. In most cases, these are unfair labels because affected people are neurologically unable to understand other people's emotional states. They are usually shocked, upset and remorseful when told that their actions are hurtful or inappropriate. It is clear that people with AS do not lack emotions. The concrete nature of emotional attachments they might have (i.e., to objects rather than to people), however, often seems curious or can even be a cause of concern to people who do not share their perspective.

This sucks. Hopefully I can get past it anyways

[One Man Army]

Sounds like my brother..and well me too


btw still try to make eye contact be social whatever...dont tell yourself "well since I have this disorder I cant do it..so I wont"

[governator45]

You can't force it? You might try forceing it.

[voltio650]

i have that **** too

[SeizedByForce]

Yeah it sucks. But since i've started lifting, I find myself able to do interact with others more and more. I still have trouble with eye contact though.

[justinbrown]

dang man i think i got that as well

[Therman Merman]

stfu and quit making excuses. If you want the puss you have to work at it chump

[SeizedByForce]

Originally Posted by Therman Merman

stfu and quit making excuses. If you want the puss you have to work at it chump

Here come the trolls thinking I'm just making excuses.

[EZ-Bar]

your just making excuses for yourself. Man up and do it. ****ING STARE AT THEM TILL THEY THINK YOU ARE A CREEP. look em in the eye! do it!

[Morbid_Mind]

You don't have Asperger's. Just because a couple things coincide doesn't mean you have it. Quit looking for excuses....

[rumpel4skin]

i like eye-raping girls. i'm real suggestive with it too. i'd be licking my lips and grabbing my wiener and what not. it's the only real way to get over it.

[keep_on_lifting]

Just because a personality trait is labeled as a SYNDROME doesn't mean you don't have control.

You have control.

Everything thats worth something takes a little practice. Start out small, ask a friend or relative (mom or dad) to help you out. Practice making eye contact with them. Even when you're just talking about random ****, try to look them in the eyes. Practice sad looks, concerned looks, happy looks, humored looks.

Last but not last PIITB that is all.

[SeizedByForce]

Originally Posted by Morbid_Mind

You don't have Asperger's. Just because a couple things coincide doesn't mean you have it. Quit looking for excuses....

In case you missed the point, I've been officially diagnosed with it by a doctor since I was ****ing 4.

This topic was mainly a rant. I'm NOT making excuses for myself, and I started weightlifting because of it, hoping that if I can succeed with bodybuilding, I can also overcome my own boundaries and have much more confidence in myself and overcome all this ass burger ****.

[Therman Merman]

Seizedbyforce, you don't live up to your name, I suggest you change it

[hublife]

Damn dude...if I was going to have a disease I wouldn't want it to be some disease with a pu$$y name like Assburgers or whatever it is you have.


I wish you continued success in overcoming this disease and leading a normal life.

[Morbid_Mind]

Originally Posted by SeizedByForce

In case you missed the point, I've been officially diagnosed with it by a doctor since I was ****ing 4.

If you actually had Asperger's you would have been in a special school. Judging by your interactions with others, high grasp of idioms and colloquial slang I would say that you've been around the general populace in schooling for your entire life. I'm guessing you don't have Asperger's and you're just a poor liar.

[rumpel4skin]

Originally Posted by Morbid_Mind

If you actually had Asperger's you would have been in a special school. Judging by your interactions with others, high grasp of idioms and colloquial slang I would say that you've been around the general populace in schooling for your entire life. I'm guessing you don't have Asperger's and you're just a poor liar.

You, my friend are a scholar and a gentleman. Your use of words is supercalifragilisticexpialidocious (sp?). Repped.

[SeizedByForce]

Originally Posted by Morbid_Mind

If you actually had Asperger's you would have been in a special school. Judging by your interactions with others, high grasp of idioms and colloquial slang I would say that you've been around the general populace in schooling for your entire life. I'm guessing you don't have Asperger's and you're just a poor liar.

Read the damn article before you talk like that. i'm not an idiot.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asberger's_syndrome

Speech and language differences

People with AS typically have a highly pedantic way of speaking, using a far more formal register of language than appropriate for a context. A five-year-old child with this condition may regularly speak in language that could easily have come from a university textbook, especially concerning his or her special area of interest.

Individuals with AS may use words idiosyncratically, including new coinages and unusual juxtapositions. This can develop into a rare gift for humor (especially puns, wordplay, doggerel and satire). A potential source of humor is the eventual realization that their literal interpretations can be used to amuse others. Some are so proficient at written language as to qualify as hyperlexic. Tony Attwood refers to a particular child's skill at inventing expressions, e.g., "tidying down" (the opposite of tidying up) or "broken" (when referring to a baby brother who cannot walk or talk).

Children with AS may show advanced abilities for their age in language, reading, mathematics, spatial skills, or music, sometimes into the 'gifted' range, but these talents may be counterbalanced by appreciable delays in the development of other cognitive functions.

A 2003 study investigated the written language of children and youth with AS. They were compared to neurotypical peers in a standardized test of written language skills and legibility of handwriting. In written language skills, no significant differences were found between standardized scores of both groups; however, in hand-writing skills, the AS participants produced significantly fewer legible letters and words than the neurotypical group. Another analysis of written samples found that people with AS appear to be able to write quantitatively similarly to their neurotypical peers using grammatical rules, but have difficulty in producing qualitative writing.

[SeizedByForce]

Originally Posted by Morbid_Mind

If you actually had Asperger's you would have been in a special school. Judging by your interactions with others, high grasp of idioms and colloquial slang I would say that you've been around the general populace in schooling for your entire life. I'm guessing you don't have Asperger's and you're just a poor liar.

and besides I don't recall using any idioms in my post. Do you even know what an idiom is?

[Morbid_Mind]

Originally Posted by SeizedByForce

Read the damn article before you talk like that. i'm not an idiot.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asberger's_syndrome

Children with AS may show advanced abilities for their age in language, reading, mathematics, spatial skills, or music, sometimes into the 'gifted' range, but these talents may be counterbalanced by appreciable delays in the development of other cognitive functions.

Well that rules you out.

People with AS typically have a highly pedantic way of speaking, using a far more formal register of language than appropriate for a context. A five-year-old child with this condition may regularly speak in language that could easily have come from a university textbook, especially concerning his or her special area of interest.

Strike 2

Individuals with AS may use words idiosyncratically, including new coinages and unusual juxtapositions. This can develop into a rare gift for humor (especially puns, wordplay, doggerel and satire)

Strike 3. Sorry fuсkhole, I've seen your posts. You talk like an average 14 year old punk. Quit making up stories so people here will feel sorry for you. You don't have Asperger's, you're just a pathetic little kid who's too much of a pussy to look women in the eye. Reality is a cruel mistress...

[BangBro]

Assburgers.lol LMFAO

[SeizedByForce]

Originally Posted by Morbid_Mind

Well that rules you out.



Strike 2



Strike 3. Sorry fuсkhole, I've seen your posts. You talk like an average 14 year old punk. Quit making up stories so people here will feel sorry for you. You don't have Asperger's, you're just a pathetic little kid who's too much of a pussy to look women in the eye. Reality is a cruel mistress...

And you are a ***got. You're going to "rule everything out" simply because I made a post including all the bands I listen to, and I listed nu-metal? you're a ****ing idiot.

[replica_fun]

lol, you dont have asberger. I knew a girl with asberger and she was totally out there.

[SeizedByForce]

Originally Posted by replica_fun

lol, you dont have asberger. I knew a girl with asberger and she was totally out there.

That might be because you don't know me. This post and what I do on bb.com only takes up about 10% of who I am... There's a ton of weird things I do. And yes, one could say i'm "Out there". In fact, I'm a crazy mother****er.

[replica_fun]

She was quite the opposite of mother****er. She was blatantly anti social. Wore weird ass cloths, didn't shower, had a weird haricut, stuff like that.

[Morbid_Mind]

Originally Posted by SeizedByForce

And you are a ***got. You're going to "rule everything out" simply because I made a post including all the bands I listen to, and I listed nu-metal? you're a ****ing idiot.

No, but thanks for bringing that up, that was a humorous occasion. I'm ruling everything you say out because you're a fuсking liar. You copy Rocky_Maivia's posts in an effort to make people think you know what you're talking about in metal discussions and you lie about having autistic disorders. You're a real winner.

[AKR]

Originally Posted by SeizedByForce

I have Aberger's Syndrome. Yes, funny name, and yes, I've known that I've had it. The thing is, I didn't know that this was the cause. Seems the only bad things about Asberger's is bad handwriting and poor social skills, and eye contact is almost impossible. Everything else is good - Most "aspies" have above normal intelligence and usually excell in the fields of Mathematics, Science, Social Studies, Language, and Music. It is also rumored that albert einstein had AS.

I quote from wikipedia:





This sucks. Hopefully I can get past it anyways

asbergers is not something you can "get past." it's a life long curse. you should know this since you were diagnosed at 4. what was with the thread title? did you just now find out these things are from your disease?

[Jack Slater]

Originally Posted by hublife

Damn dude...if I was going to have a disease I wouldn't want it to be some disease with a pu$$y name like Assburgers or whatever it is you have.


I wish you continued success in overcoming this disease and leading a normal life.

lol awesome reply!

[timbo81]

ok I am not tryin to say you don't have it but maybe it's just lacking confidence.

I went through a time in my life when I was sick alot, basically I never went out except to work for like a few years. I became so socially awkward I couldn't make conversation, I couldn't look people in the eyes. Oh and i've always had messy handwriting.

Sounds like i have assburgers, but I don't.

[K_Ching]

Originally Posted by SeizedByForce

In fact, I'm a crazy mother****er.

If you know/think you're crazy, then you're not. Crazy people are the ones who are "out there" but don't know it themselves.