Some ground rules you knobs need to learn

[Eh?]

1) If a girl gives you a number, don't play the hard to get game. Don't wait 4 days to call, and don't sound so uninterested on the phone. If you're serious about a girl and want to be with her, call her the next day if you can at night, or the day after.

People put so much god damn importance on when to call a girl, they think too soon and you sound desperate. Here's a tip, there is no "right" time to call, and if a girl rejects you because you call "too soon" such as the next day, she wasn't worth your time.

2) Drop the whole Alpha thing.

Yea it's supposed to be cool on the forums, most WOMEN out there don't want some bull**** ******* playing with their minds who thinks he has game, they want a guy who makes them laugh and has confidence (note, I said confidence, not cockyness) with some decent looks.

I see a lot of guys here making 10 page long threads about chasing a girl, playing these games, and wondering why it's taken them so long to land them. Maybe it's because you haven't even taken them on a god damn date? You're so cautious about your "first approach" with a girl who's showing obvious interest that you can't even just ask for a number and a date. What the hell is wrong with you?

3) Use common sense.

Above all else this is the big one. I see a lot of you dumbasses using the wrong head when it comes to girls. Even when it comes to just wanting to get your dick wet, it takes common sense. If a girl shows signs of interest, as long as you say something to them remotely normal, they'll keep talking to you. If a girl makes eye contact twice from across the room, you're in. Just make sure it's not your buddy beside you she's eying

4) Don't use the bar for relationships.

There are exceptions to this rule but generally, it's not the place to find a relationship. Most girls go to the bar with the mentality that all guys there are looking to score, and they're generally right.

Most guys there are early 20's college/uni kids at the bar, who think they know something about females and are pimps looking to show a girl how lousy they are in bed. That doesn't help you at all if you're genuinely looking for someone, as the girls are on the defensive from the start. Add in that if you do talk to them, they will probably think you've pulled it off a dozen times before on other girls, and god knows what STD's you have.

Finding girls in neutral areas like the library while studying, hanging out at a buddies house or just around campus, etc is a good place to meet them. They won't have that mentality that you're on the prowel, they can actually hear you as the music isn't at 160 DB, and you both aren't pressured into it.

Again, you can both walk away if things seem awkward and you can have an actual conversation in private without having to yell at eachother over the music. It's a lot easier to talk to someone I find if you don't have to yell and it's a more private setting.

Good luck nubs

[LMW]

no thanks.

[JLT]

Originally Posted by Eh?

1) If a girl gives you a number, don't play the hard to get game. Don't wait 4 days to call, and don't sound so uninterested on the phone. If you're serious about a girl and want to be with her, call her the next day if you can at night, or the day after.

People put so much god damn importance on when to call a girl, they think too soon and you sound desperate. Here's a tip, there is no "right" time to call, and if a girl rejects you because you call "too soon" such as the next day, she wasn't worth your time.

2) Drop the whole Alpha thing.

Yea it's supposed to be cool on the forums, most WOMEN out there don't want some bull**** ******* playing with their minds who thinks he has game, they want a guy who makes them laugh and has confidence (note, I said confidence, not cockyness) with some decent looks.

I see a lot of guys here making 10 page long threads about chasing a girl, playing these games, and wondering why it's taken them so long to land them. Maybe it's because you haven't even taken them on a god damn date? You're so cautious about your "first approach" with a girl who's showing obvious interest that you can't even just ask for a number and a date. What the hell is wrong with you?

3) Use common sense.

Above all else this is the big one. I see a lot of you dumbasses using the wrong head when it comes to girls. Even when it comes to just wanting to get your dick wet, it takes common sense. If a girl shows signs of interest, as long as you say something to them remotely normal, they'll keep talking to you. If a girl makes eye contact twice from across the room, you're in. Just make sure it's not your buddy beside you she's eying

4) Don't use the bar for relationships.

There are exceptions to this rule but generally, it's not the place to find a relationship. Most girls go to the bar with the mentality that all guys there are looking to score, and they're generally right.

Most guys there are early 20's college/uni kids at the bar, who think they know something about females and are pimps looking to show a girl how lousy they are in bed. That doesn't help you at all if you're genuinely looking for someone, as the girls are on the defensive from the start. Add in that if you do talk to them, they will probably think you've pulled it off a dozen times before on other girls, and god knows what STD's you have.

Finding girls in neutral areas like the library while studying, hanging out at a buddies house or just around campus, etc is a good place to meet them. They won't have that mentality that you're on the prowel, they can actually hear you as the music isn't at 160 DB, and you both aren't pressured into it.

Again, you can both walk away if things seem awkward and you can have an actual conversation in private without having to yell at eachother over the music. It's a lot easier to talk to someone I find if you don't have to yell and it's a more private setting.

Good luck nubs

I agree.. Sadly I learned the hard way

[2 Shades Darker]

Well said.

Misc/Relationship forum is just a bunch of over-analyzers.

[katma201]

WRONG!

This ONLY applies if both you and the girl have instant attraction and chemistry. This only happens with maybe 1/50 girls a guy approaches. For the other 49 girls you have to CREATE the attraction. Being straight up will ensure failure and rejection.

Remember, most men do not naturally have the confidence and know all with what to do in certain situations with women. It takes knowledge and trial and error. There is set guidlines to go by to get the girl and keep the girl. Some guys have it and some guys done. If the girl already has an equal amount of attraction and interest then I agree, most of the "****" gets flung out the window. But situations like that is rare.

[BuildUpNow]

Originally Posted by Eh?

1) If a girl gives you a number, don't play the hard to get game. Don't wait 4 days to call, and don't sound so uninterested on the phone. If you're serious about a girl and want to be with her, call her the next day if you can at night, or the day after.

People put so much god damn importance on when to call a girl, they think too soon and you sound desperate. Here's a tip, there is no "right" time to call, and if a girl rejects you because you call "too soon" such as the next day, she wasn't worth your time.

2) Drop the whole Alpha thing.

Yea it's supposed to be cool on the forums, most WOMEN out there don't want some bull**** ******* playing with their minds who thinks he has game, they want a guy who makes them laugh and has confidence (note, I said confidence, not cockyness) with some decent looks.

I see a lot of guys here making 10 page long threads about chasing a girl, playing these games, and wondering why it's taken them so long to land them. Maybe it's because you haven't even taken them on a god damn date? You're so cautious about your "first approach" with a girl who's showing obvious interest that you can't even just ask for a number and a date. What the hell is wrong with you?

3) Use common sense.

Above all else this is the big one. I see a lot of you dumbasses using the wrong head when it comes to girls. Even when it comes to just wanting to get your dick wet, it takes common sense. If a girl shows signs of interest, as long as you say something to them remotely normal, they'll keep talking to you. If a girl makes eye contact twice from across the room, you're in. Just make sure it's not your buddy beside you she's eying

4) Don't use the bar for relationships.

There are exceptions to this rule but generally, it's not the place to find a relationship. Most girls go to the bar with the mentality that all guys there are looking to score, and they're generally right.

Most guys there are early 20's college/uni kids at the bar, who think they know something about females and are pimps looking to show a girl how lousy they are in bed. That doesn't help you at all if you're genuinely looking for someone, as the girls are on the defensive from the start. Add in that if you do talk to them, they will probably think you've pulled it off a dozen times before on other girls, and god knows what STD's you have.

Finding girls in neutral areas like the library while studying, hanging out at a buddies house or just around campus, etc is a good place to meet them. They won't have that mentality that you're on the prowel, they can actually hear you as the music isn't at 160 DB, and you both aren't pressured into it.

Again, you can both walk away if things seem awkward and you can have an actual conversation in private without having to yell at eachother over the music. It's a lot easier to talk to someone I find if you don't have to yell and it's a more private setting.

Good luck nubs

See this applies if u want a relationship with ONE girl for a long ass time, the alpha **** works if u want pussy with many different women.

[-Live2Lift-]

Originally Posted by Eh?

2) Drop the whole Alpha thing.

Yea it's supposed to be cool on the forums, most WOMEN out there don't want some bull**** ******* playing with their minds who thinks he has game, they want a guy who makes them laugh and has confidence (note, I said confidence, not cockyness) with some decent looks.

I see a lot of guys here making 10 page long threads about chasing a girl, playing these games, and wondering why it's taken them so long to land them. Maybe it's because you haven't even taken them on a god damn date? You're so cautious about your "first approach" with a girl who's showing obvious interest that you can't even just ask for a number and a date. What the hell is wrong with you?

Some of em need to learn it...they like to THINK they are alpha... or whatever that bull**** but fact is i know a guy who probably gets 10 fold pussy than any of these "alphas".... because hes himself and a decent bloke and woman love him for it just playing it cool.

[Jay Rawd]

Well I actually follow all those "ground rules" but probably never would have gotten to the "being myself" stage if I didn't have a little help from PUA stuff you all seem to knock.

[f00t]

im black

[comebakthursday]

I think theres a time and a place for everything you support in that list, and theres a time and a place for everything you shot down. Every situation is not alike. Im defiently not into the alpha ****.

If its a relationship your going for, then everything you listed is correct, but if you have to pull all those fake stunts just to get the girl, and its obvious being yourself wouldnt be enough, well what about you is she really going for? Doesnt sound like too much of a relationship to me. All comes down to personal preference.

[King Makaveli]

No

[CreamPie Charlie]

you dont call them straight away..girls like a guy who they can chase..its all just a bit of playful banter

[ishanm]

not alpha.

[micky c]

Originally Posted by katma201

WRONG!

This ONLY applies if both you and the girl have instant attraction and chemistry. This only happens with maybe 1/50 girls a guy approaches. For the other 49 girls you have to CREATE the attraction. Being straight up will ensure failure and rejection.

Remember, most men do not naturally have the confidence and know all with what to do in certain situations with women. It takes knowledge and trial and error. There is set guidlines to go by to get the girl and keep the girl. Some guys have it and some guys done. If the girl already has an equal amount of attraction and interest then I agree, most of the "****" gets flung out the window. But situations like that is rare.

bump, correct!

[Ace_2004]

Another guy dissing PUA........i love you man

All you need to do is focus on taking away your insecurities and stop negative self-talk and your in.
Most people who call AFC's.....AFC's are only AFC because they are insecure and do alot of negative self talk which then turns them into guys that girls dont want so fck sarging women or whatever.....sarge the world and concentrate on yourself, your own goals in life and your be happier and more attractive.



(watch me get e-raped now)

[Insane Clown]

Holy crap, I was just thinking this same thing that the orginal author said.

I actually came by this forum to check out the relationship advice (haven't done so in a loonnngggg time), and it hit me: Most of this **** is ridiculous. It's not even relationship advice. It's 'I'm an insecure guy and need to get laid to validate my manhood, please help me do it' advice.

There are some thing about the 'alpha/PUA' stuff that are really, really good, which is mostly in regards to building confidence and realizing that girls are people, just like you, no better or worse.
I don't know if it was here I read or some site linked from here about making yourself go to like a busy mall or whatever and just saying 'hello' to every girl you see, but I thought that was great advice.


The rest of this stuff though... it's just B.S. for guys who are insecure and shy and are hell-bent to prove how much of a man they are because they are banging 'X' amount of women. It's a bunch of stupid games to help guys avoid actually thinking and getting emotionally involved in a real relationship because that's where people get hurt.

I think the worst part is, is that there is a lot of valuable truth behind a lot of what is said, and it gets lost behind all the crap layered on top of it.

[Ace_2004]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=877124

[KobeBryant81]

Only one I agree with is the last one. I've seen guys get long relationships from bars but its rare. And if your at a busy club thats a total meatmarket full of guys trying to get laid then it ain't gonna happen. When I'm at a bar I'm only looking for girls I can get back to the spot and bang that night. I could fill my cell phone with numbers if I pimp hard enough in the bar but I ain't trying to wife those chicks. Bar scene is completly fake.

[King_David23]

From my experience most guys are so far away from being alpha that it does them some good to really try this out, therefore they act like a normal while they are trying to be alpha


Alpha-----------------------------Normal--------------------------Pussy


Most guys start at the pussy end of the spectrum so it does do them good to learn better skills. A little caveat to this is that some guys entirely too far and end up being a huge prick.


Thats why I agree for the most part with the list,I might have changed the order but no reason to nitpick.

When will guys quit depending on other people, namely women to give them their self esteem?

Depend on yourself, be self sufficient

[ForumNinja]

Originally Posted by Eh?

Some ground rules you knobs need to learn

Why must you name call? You make ForumNinja sad

[Alinta]

Originally Posted by katma201

WRONG!

This ONLY applies if both you and the girl have instant attraction and chemistry. This only happens with maybe 1/50 girls a guy approaches. For the other 49 girls you have to CREATE the attraction. Being straight up will ensure failure and rejection.

Remember, most men do not naturally have the confidence and know all with what to do in certain situations with women. It takes knowledge and trial and error. There is set guidlines to go by to get the girl and keep the girl. Some guys have it and some guys done. If the girl already has an equal amount of attraction and interest then I agree, most of the "****" gets flung out the window. But situations like that is rare.

actually, in this situation I'd have to say that if you don't think you are instant attraction material, try the damn internet! lol. all my serious relationships have started with talking to the person for a good couple of months purely over the net. this gives a chance to get to know the person without a horrible feeling of shyness, and also if you can't think of a witty reply for them straight away you can always pretend you were busy for a minute while you think of what to say.

i kno it sounds like it's for geeks but it makes it easy to just talk to people without worrying about what they look like, what you look like, whether you should be buying them a drink or changing your posture.

but i agree with the original post. get with it guys!! don't worry about mind games. lots of us don't like to chase in fact we prefer to be chased a little. not all, but i can't speak for everyone. if we think you are ****ing with us we will drop you like dead weight.

[KobeBryant81]

Originally Posted by King_David23

From my experience most guys are so far away from being alpha that it does them some good to really try this out, therefore they act like a normal while they are trying to be alpha


Alpha-----------------------------Normal--------------------------Pussy


Most guys start at the pussy end of the spectrum so it does do them good to learn better skills. A little caveat to this is that some guys entirely too far and end up being a huge prick.


Thats why I agree for the most part with the list,I might have changed the order but no reason to nitpick.

When will guys quit depending on other people, namely women to give them their self esteem?

Depend on yourself, be self sufficient

Exactly. Alpha isn't something you can fake or "try" to be. You're either alpha or your not.