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Old 09-01-2006, 01:41 AM   #1
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Destruction Of Hindu Temples By Muslims

As promised, this is the first in a series of threads, which will outline various atrocities and plunderings committed by Muslims against people of different culture/faiths and their sanctuaries of worship, throughout its history.

This is not favoritism, but an "objective" overview of what some consider "holy" actions.

People of all faiths and cultures should carefully examine these facts, especially in light of the unsubstantiated "claim" that any culture can live in peace and can freely practice their religion, under Islamic rule.

What's unique about this documentation , is that it is from an East Indian Hindu as well as Islamic historian perspective.

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The evidence of destruction of thousands of Hindu temples can be primarily found from two different sources:


1. Literary Evidence from the work of renowned Islamic historians
2. Epigraphic Evidence from the inscriptions on numerous Mosques all over India.

In this article, I will deal with only the literary evidence. A separate article will be devoted to the epigraphic evidence.

This article is just one of the series of articles that I will be publishing regarding the plunder and conversion of Hindu temples to mosques. Hundereds of Muslim historians have glorified the deeds of their Muslim heroes all over India. I will just cite a fraction of the literary evidence available in these series of articles. This by no means is an exhaustive list! To learn more about this please read both the volumes of book, Hindu Temples: What Happened To Them?, authored by Sita Ram Goel and many others.

We have elaborate literary evidence from the Islamic sources which glorify the crimes committed by the muslims in India. Crimes such as desecration of the Hindu idols, looting of the temples, killing devotees and raping have been well documented by the Muslim historians themselves. They have done so because according to them these muslim rulers by doing such deeds were following the tenets of Islam and sunnah of the prophet Mohammed. This brings me back to my original point which I have made in my earlier articles: Islam not only justifies rape, murder, plunder and destruction, but in fact, it was originated to attract followers with such inclination. To know more about this read my previous article, Excessive Kindness Of Islam.
The literary evidence stated below is in chronological order with reference to the time at which a particular work was written.

Name Of The Book: Hindustan Islami Ahad mein (India under Islamic Rule)
Name Of The Historian: Maulana Abdul Hai.
About The Author: He is a highly respected scholar and taken as an authority on Islamic history. Because of his scholarship and his services to Islam, Maulana Abdul Hai was appointed as the Rector of the Darul Nadwa Ullum Nadwatal-Ulama. He continued in that post till his death in February 1923.


The following section is taken from the chapter Hindustan ki Masjidein (The mosques of India) of the above mentioned book. Here we can see a brief description of few important mosques in India and how each one of them was built upon plundered Hindu temples.


1. Qawwat al-Islam Mosque at Delhi: "According to my findings the first mosque of Delhi is Qubbat al-Islam or Quwwat al_Islam which, Qutubud-Din Aibak constructed in H. 587 after demolishing the hindu temple built by Prithvi Raj and leaving certain parts of the temple outside the mosque proper; and when he returned from Ghazni in H. 592 he started building, under orders from Shihabud -Din Ghori, a huge mosque of inimitable red stones, and certain parts of the temple were included in the mosque..."


2. The Mosque at Jaunpur: "This was built by Sultan Ibrahim Sharqi with chiselled stones. Originally it was a Hindu temple after demolishing which he constructed the mosque. It is known as the Atala Masjid.."


3. The Mosque at Qanauj: "It is well known that this mosque was built on the foundations of some Hindu temple that stood here. The mosque was built by Ibrahim Sharqi in H. 809 as is recorded in Gharbat Nigar"


4. Jami Masjid at Etwah: "This mosque stands on the bank of the Jamuna at Etawah. There was a Hindu temple at this place, on the site of which this mosque was constructed.."


5. Babri Masjid at Ayodhya: "This mosque was constructed by Babar at Ayodhya which Hindus call the birth place of Ramchandraji... Sita had a temple here in which she lived and cooked for her husband. On that very site Babar constructed this mosque in H.963 "


6. Mosque at Benaras: "Mosque of Benares was built by Alamgir Aurangzeb on the site of Bisheshwar Temple. That temple was very tall and held as holy among Hindus. On this very site and with those very stones he constructed a lofty mosque, and its ancient stones were rearranged after being embedded in the walls of the mosque. It is one of the renowned mosques of Hindustan."


7. Mosque at Mathura: "Alamgir Aurangzeb built a mosque at Mathura. This mosque was built on site of the Govind Dev Temple which was very strong and beautiful as well as exquisite.."

Name Of The Book: Futuhu'l-Buldan
Name Of The Historian: Ahmed bin Yahya bin Jabir
About The Author: This author is also known as al- Biladhuri. He lived at the court of Khalifa Al- Mutawakkal (AD 847-861) and died in AD 893. His history is one of the major Arab chronicles.

The Muslim Rulers He Wrote About:
1. Ibn Samurah (AD 653)
Siestan (Iran)
"On reaching Dawar, he surrounded the enemy in the mountain of Zur, where there was a famous Hindu temple." "...Their idol of Zur was of gold, and its eyes were two rubies. The zealous Musalmans cut off its hands and plucked out its eyes, and then remarked to the Marzaban how powerless was his idol..."


2. Qutaibah bin Muslim al-Bahili (AD 705-715)
Samarkand (Farghana)
"Other authorities say that Kutaibah granted peace for 700,000 dirhams and entertainment for the Moslems for three days. The terms of surrender included also the houses of the idols and the fire temples. The idols were thrown out, plundered of their ornaments and burned..."


3. Mohammed bin Qasim (AD 712-715)
Debal (Sindh)
"...The town was thus taken by assault, and the carnage endured for three days. The governor of the town, appointed by Dahir, fled and the priests of the temple were massacred. Muhammad marked a place for the Musalmans to dwell in, built a mosque, and left 4,000 Musalmans to garrison the place..."
"...'Ambissa son of Ishak Az Zabbi, the governor of Sindh, in the Khilafat of Mu'tasim billah knocked down the upper part of the minaret of the temple and converted it into a prison..."

Multan (Punjab)
"...He then crossed the Biyas, and went towards Multan...Muhammad destroyed the water-course; upon which the inhabitants, oppressed with thirst, surrendered at discretion. He massacred the men capable of bearing arms, but the children were taken captive, as well as ministers of the temple, to the number of 6,000. The Musalmans found there much gold in a chamber ten cubits long by eight broad..."


4. Hasham bin 'Amru al-Taghlabi
Khandahar (Maharashtra)
"He then went to Khandahar in boats and conquered it. He destroyed the Budd (idol) there, and built in its place a mosque."

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Name Of The Book: Tarikh-i-Tabari
Name Of The Historian: Abu Ja'far Muhammad bin Jarir at-Tabari
About The Author: This author is considered to be the foremost historian of Islam. The above mentioned book written by him is regarded as the mother of histories.

The Muslim Rulers He Wrote About:

1. Qutaibah bin Muslim al-Bahili (AD 705-715)
Beykund (Khurasan)
"The ultimate capture of Beykund (in AD 706) rewarded him with an incalculable booty; even more than had hitherto fallen into the hands of the Mohammedans by the conquest of the entire province of Khorassaun; and the unfortunate merchants of the town, having been absent on a trading excursion while their country was assailed by the enemy, and finding their habitations desolate on their return contributed further to enrich the invaders, by the ransom which they paid for the recovery of their wives and children. The oranments alone, of which these women had been plundered, being melted down, produce, in gold, 150,000 meskals; of a dram and a half each. Among the articles of the booty, is also described an image of gold, of 50,000 meskals, of which the eyes were two pearls, the exquisite beauty and magnitude of which excited the surprise and admiration of Kateibah. They were transmitted by him, with a fifth of the spoil to Hejauje, together with a request that he might be permitted to distribute, to the troops, the arms which had been found in the palace in great profusion."

Samarkand (Farghana)
"A breach was, however, at last effected in the walls of the city in AD 712 by the warlike machines of Kateibah; and some of the most daring of its defenders having fallen by the skill of his archers, the besieged demanded a cessation of arms to the following day, when they promised to capitulate. The request was acceded to the Kateibah; and a treaty was the next day accordingly concluded between him and the prince of Samarkand, by which the latter engaged for the annual payment of ten million of dhirems, and a supply of three thousand slaves; of whom it was particularly stipulated, that none should either be in a state of infancy, or ineffective from old age and debility. He further contracted that the ministers of his religion should be expelled from their temples and their idols destroyed and burnt; that Kateibah should be allowed to establish a mosque in the place of the principal temple...."
"...Kateibah accordingly set set fire to the whole collection with his own hands; it was soon consumed to ashes, and 50,000 meskals of gold and silver, collected from the nails which had been used in the workmanship of the images."


2. Yaqub bin Laith (AD 870-871)
Balkh and Kabul (Afghanistan)
"He took Bamian, which he probably reached by way of Herat, and then marched on Balkh where he ruined (the temple) Naushad. On his way back from Balkh he attacked Kabul..."
"Starting from Panjhir, the place he is known to have visited, he must have passed through the capital city of the Hindu Sahis to rob the sacred temple -- the reputed place of coronation of the Sahi rulers -- of its sculptural wealth..."
"The exact details of the spoil collected from Kabul valley are lacking. The Tarikh [-i-Sistan] records 50 idols of gold and silver and Mas'udi mentions elephants. The wonder excited in Baghdad by baghdad by elephants and pagan idols forwarded to the Caliph by Ya'qub also speaks for their high value."

Name Of The Book: Tarikhu'l-Hind
Name Of The Historian: Abu Rihan Muhammad bin Ahmad al-Biruni al-Khwarizmi.
About The Author: This author spent 40 years in India during the reign of Sultan Mahmud of Ghazni (AD 997 - 1030). His history treats of the literature and learning of the Hindus at the commencement of the 11th century.
The Muslim Rulers He Wrote About:
1. Jalam ibn Shaiban (9th century AD)
Multan (Punjab)
"A famous idol of theirs was that of Multan, dedicated to the sun, and therefore called Aditya. It was of wood and covered with red Cordovan leather; in its two eyes were two red rubies. It is said to have been made in the last Kritayuga .....When Muhammad Ibn Alkasim Ibn Almunaibh conquered Multan, he inquired how the town had become so very flourishing and so many treasures had there been accumulated, and then he found out that this idol was the cause, for there came pilgrims from all sides to visit it. Therefore he thought it best to have the idol where it was, but he hung a piece of cow's flesh on its neck by way of mockery. On the same place a mosque was built. When the Karmatians occupied Multan, Jalam Ibn Shaiban, the usurper, broke the idol into pieces and killed its priests..."


2. Sultan Mahmud of Gazni (AD 997-1030)
Thanesar (Haryana)
"The city of Taneshar is highly venerated by Hindus. The idol of that place is called Cakrasvamin, i.e. the owner of the cakra, a weapon which we have already described. It is of bronze, and is nearly the size of a man. It is now lying in the hippodrome in Ghazna, together with the Lord of Somnath, which is a representation of the penis of the Mahadeva, called Linga."

Somnath (Gujrat)
"The linga he raised was the stone of Somnath, for soma means the moon and natan means master, so that the whole word means master of the moon. The image was destroyed by the Prince Mahmud, may God be merciful to him! --AH 416. He ordered the upper part to be broken and the remainder to be transported to his residence, Ghaznin, with all its coverings and trappings of gold, jewels, and embroided garments. Part of it has been thrown into the hippodrome of the town, together with Cakrasvamin , an idol of bronze, that had been brought from Taneshar. Another part of the idol from Somnath lies before the door of the mosque of Ghaznin, on which people rub their feet to clean them from dirt and wet."
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Name Of The Book: Kitabu'l-Yamini
Name Of The Historian: Abu Nasr Muhammad ibn Muhammad al Jabbaru'l-Utbi.
About The Author: This author's work comprises the whole of the reign of Subuktigin and that of Sultan Mahmud down to the year AD 1020.
The Muslim Rulers He Wrote About:
1. Amir Sbuktigin Of Ghazni
Lamghan (Afghanistan)
"The Amir marched out towards Lamghan, which is a city celebrated for its great strength and abounding wealth. He conquered it and set fire to the places in its vicinity which were inhabited by infidels, and demolishing idol temples, he established Islam in them. He marched and captured other cities and killed the polluted wretches, destroying the idolaters and gratifying the Musulmans."


2. Sultan Mahmud of Ghazni (AD 997-1030)
Narain (Rajasthan)
"The Sultan again resolved on an expedition to Hind, and marched towards Narain, urging his horses and moving over ground, hard and soft, until he came to the middle of Hind, where he reduced chiefs, who, up to that time obeyed no master, overturned their idols, put to the sword the vagabonds of that country, and with delay and circumspection proceeded to accomplish his design..."

Nardin (Punjab)
"After the Sultan had purified Hind from idolatry, and raised mosques therein, he determined to invade the capital of Hind to punish those who kept idols and would not acknowledge the unity of God...He marched with a large army in the year AH 404 (AD 1013) during a dark night..."
"A stone was found there in the temple of the great Budda on which an inscription was written purporting that the temple had been founded 50,000 years ago. The Sultan was surprised at the ignorance of these people, because those who believe in the true faith represent that only seven hundred years have elapsed since the creation of the world, and the signs of resurrection are even now approaching . The Sultan asked his wise men the meaning of this inscription and they all concurred in saying that it was false, and no faith was to be put in the evidence of a stone."

Thanesar (Haryana)
"The chief of Tanesar was...obstinate in his infidelity and denial of God. So the Sultan marched against him with his valiant warriors, for the purpose of planting the standards of Islam and extirpating idolatry.."
"The blood of the infidels flowed so copiously, that the stream was discoloured, not withstanding its purity, and people were unable to drink it...The victory gained by God's grace, who has established Islam for ever as the best religions, notwithstanding that idolaters revolt against it...Praise be to God, the protector of the world, for the honour he bestows upon Islam and Musulmans."

Mathura (Uttar Pradesh)
"The Sultan then departed from the environs of the city, in which was a temple of the Hindus. The name of this place was Mahartul Hind... On both sides of the city there were a thousand houses, to which idol temples were attached, all strengthened from top to bottom by rivets of iron, and all made of masonry work..."
"In the middle of the city there was a temple larger and firmer than the rest, which can neither be described nor painted. The Sultan thus wrote respecting it: --'If any should wish to construct a building equal to this, he would not be able to do it without expending an 100,000,000 red dinars, and it would occupy 200 years even though the most experience and able workmen were employed'... The Sultan gave orders that all temples should be burnt with naptha and fire, and levelled with the ground."

Kanauj (Uttar Pradesh)
"In Kanauj there were nearly 10,000 temples, which the idolaters falsely and absurdly represented to have been founded by their ancestors two or three hundred thousand years ago...Many of the inhabitants of the place fled and were scattered abroad like so many wretched widows and orphans, from the fear which oppressed them, in consequence of witnessing the fate of their deaf and dumb idols. Many of them thus effected their escape, and those who did not fly were put to death."
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oh dear, somebody sited Sita Ram Goel's work
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/temple1.html

This is what Gandhi had to say about Islam (book: Young India):

I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place in Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every trouble.
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oh, and while you're posting Goel's work, don't forget to post his other works, such as this one:
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(this is not to say that prophet Jesus (pbuh) was an aggresor. I just want to point out that Serpent is biased ).
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oh dear, somebody sited Sita Ram Goel's work
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/temple1.html

This is what Gandhi had to say about Islam (book: Young India):

I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place in Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every trouble.

Too bad more Muslims didnt listen to Ghandi
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Too bad more Muslims didnt listen to Ghandi
Too bad people these days only present half the story.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/3712777.stm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/3712777.stm
Ok, I don't care if it's a church, mosque, synagogue, or temple.
If you tear some **** down with nothing but a hammer, you deserve that victory.
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As promised, this is the first in a series of threads, which will outline various atrocities and plunderings committed by Muslims against people of different culture/faiths and their sanctuaries of worship, throughout its history.

This is not favoritism, but an objectional overview of what some consider "holy" actions.
I think you meant "objective", but "objectional" is probably the correct verb to use.
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I think you meant "objective", but "objectional" is probably the correct verb to use.

Yes, that's what i meant. Thanx for pointing out my typo
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Good post, its good to see how the muslims are so peace loving....

AND Espiscally good to know how ever lasting tolerent they are for other religions.

(not talking about US muslims in general they seem more intergrated and moderate) unlike the rest of the world.

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ya...this is what the majority of problems in india are about. the riots of 94 was exactly because of this

what i dont get is...pakistan split from india because they wanted there own "muslim" state...then why the hell are muslims in india still complaining when their can just go to their state. india is afterall still hindu country (note that in hindi india is known as hindustan), if you dont like the rules of the land (which obviously favores hindus), then get the fuk out.

*note this rule applies to north america too
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I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place in Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every trouble.
how does this respond to the list of references from literate and archaelogies that shows they tore down every temple and built a mosque?

WOw....and by the way, i studied hindu religion in school, and it accepts all religions as holy. and muslims cannot get along with them? holy ****ing ****
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Funny, they have no problem tearing down other people's religious monuments, such as the Bhuda statues. But go ape-**** over a cartoon.
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Ow man, why is everyone trying to give us a bad name
Do you deny that you destroyed these Hindu temples??? Do you deny that you destroyed the Bhuda statues???
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It doesn't take a f-cking rocket scientist to figure out that you're doing that to yourselves.
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I have seen this trend, people use any argument, they can get out of thin air, to prove their point. some of these people would go on to prove, that sun revolves around earth, if somehow Muslim bashing was connected to that.
I do not agree with Islam, and i wish and can foresee, that it will finish off, or evolve into something more rational, more adpatable with modern thought process. If western powers could have been more selfless, and rather then looking for victory in next elections, Bush would have acted intelligently, evolution process would already ahve been started. But those are long discussions.
I just want to humbly point out, while criticising one donkey, you better not make friends with another donkey. Hindutva, Islamic fundamentalism are two sides of the same coin, just different Gods. Muslims have one Allah, Hindus have 300 million Gods. Both are killing others, to enforce the supermacy of their Gods. Islam might have been an aggressor in mid-east, Pakistan, even Indonesia, but in India, Hindu nationalism has been far more brutal, far mroe comprehensive. Search on Gujrat riots, Hindutva, Babri Masjid so on...
and history buffs might be interested in how Buddhism was eliminated from India between 500-700 A.D.
And the guy whose research has been quoted, Goel, all I can say is he belongs to the same class as Irving. Only a bit more idiotic. The whole of south Asia is stuck into superstitions, hatred for each other. Rather then inadvertently supporting either Muslim, or Hindu fundamentalism, western powers should assist in creating a platform, where the rational, open minded people can have a voice.
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Funny, they have no problem tearing down other people's religious monuments, such as the Bhuda statues. But go ape-**** over a cartoon.

You must understand the mindset behind ****ting all over every other religion and then organizing worldwide protests when someone draws a cartoon of someone in your own religion. Its the Muslim(tm) way
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how does this respond to the list of references from literate and archaelogies that shows they tore down every temple and built a mosque?
The OP, which was written by Goel, viewed Islam as violent religion. So I gave an opposite view written by Gandhi.

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not everyone, but some people. and these people, no matter how we prove them wrong, are blinded by their hatred to Islam. Take Serpent for example. I don't know if he knows who Sita Ram Goel is. He will refuse to agree with Goel when it comes to Goel's view on Christianity, but when Goel's wrote bad things about Islam, Serpent copied and pasted at once.
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not everyone, but some people. and these people, no matter how we prove them wrong, are blinded by their hatred to Islam. Take Serpent for example. I don't know if he knows who Sita Ram Goel is. He will refuse to agree with Goel when it comes to Goel's view on Christianity, but when Goel's wrote bad things about Islam, Serpent copied and pasted at once.
Interesting. Do you always lie and shove words down other's mouths? Please tell me where I agreed or disagreed with Goel's views on Christianity? Also this thread is mainly composed of accounts from books written by Muslim historians themselves lol.

I think the opposite is occuring here. Muslims, blinded by their hate for other cultures, cannot see or accept the atrocities committed by their forefathers. Take you for example. You are speechless when people ask you to address this issue.
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It doesn't take a f-cking rocket scientist to figure out that you're doing that to yourselves.

Exactly. Ive said this before, but we dont need Western propaganda to have a problem with Islam. Based on their own actions, they're a self fufilling prophecy.
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The OP, which was written by Goel, viewed Islam as violent religion. So I gave an opposite view written by Gandhi.


not everyone, but some people. and these people, no matter how we prove them wrong, are blinded by their hatred to Islam. Take Serpent for example. I don't know if he knows who Sita Ram Goel is. He will refuse to agree with Goel when it comes to Goel's view on Christianity, but when Goel's wrote bad things about Islam, Serpent copied and pasted at once.
How do you prove anyone wrong? Quoting from your holy book? Proves nothing.
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Any area governed by Islamic law goes by a don't-ask-don't-tell policy.

If someone wants to commit sins in private, that is up to them. But the moment anything enters the public sphere, it is governed by public law. This is actually true in any system of governance where the government does not promote spying into people's affairs.

Islam doesn't acknowledge the idea of religious pluralism whereby "anyone can be right". On the contrary, we hold that God has commanded us to enjoin the good and forbid the evil when we rule an area, so any acts of blasphemy and idolatery committed in the open are to be stopped immediately.

For a site to be destroyed like that, it would have had to have very open and explicit idolaterous acts taking place. As we know, Hindu places of worship are pretty much filled with idols and rituals surrounding them, so they would not be spared unless they took their business indoors.
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Islam doesn't acknowledge the idea of religious pluralism whereby "anyone can be right". On the contrary, we hold that God has commanded us to enjoin the good and forbid the evil when we rule an area, so any acts of blasphemy and idolatery committed in the open are to be stopped immediately.
Pretty much explains everything. Islam, or die.
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Pretty much explains everything. Islam, or die.
No, you don't need to die, but don't expect to be able to preach or practice all aspects of your religion in public.

Just like Muslims in the West accept that fact, so should people living among Muslims.
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No, you don't need to die, but don't expect to be able to preach or practice all aspects of your religion in public.
And if you do, you die. True tolerance from the ROP.
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Originally Posted by Chowboy
And if you do, you die. True tolerance from the ROP.
No, you don't die just for being a non-Muslim outside. But depending on exactly what you were doing, your actions would be curbed.

Except in the case when someone is walking around slandering Prophets (pbut), then yes they would be taken to court and most likely executed. So keep that in mind when vacationing.
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Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise with the deeds which he had done even if those deeds were few.
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