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Are You INJURED/HURT?

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The most imprtant thing most of you need to learn is injury prevention and rehab. I have lifters that get pulls and strains pretty frequently. When I tell them they are to do NOTHING that remotely aggravates it, they usually whine like a little girl that just got told they can't have a new Barbie. I have guys that get a slight strain that will take 1-2 weeks to heal and tell them no squatting or deadlifting and I get: YOU MEAN I CAN'T SQUAT AT ALL, WHAT ABOUT MY LEGS? WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? You are supposed to do nothing. People hurt their shoulders which often put them out of upper body work all together. When I tell them they will be out for 1-4 weeks, they act like the world is coming to an end. This tells me they are not very mature lifters, and not patient people.

What then often happens is they take an injury that would have healed in 1-2 weeks, and make it a long term injury because they were too thick headed to just leave it alone and let it heal. Missing a few weeks of training a bodypart doesn't hurt a thing in the long run. Ronnie takes three months off after the Olympia and top lifters in all sports often take weeks or even months of when they are peaked out and KNOW their bodies need a rest.

I haven't been able to train most of my body for about 2.5 months now. Why? I have old injuries that are in desperate need of healing. I am letting them do just that. Is my world crushed? Not hardly. I KNOW when I come back I will get right back to previous levels and will surpass them in a couple of months. I COULD have just pushed on. Most people would. You want to play with herniated disks, go ahead. I prefer to take the safer path. Even with herniated disks I have pulled 620 lbs at age 43.

Here is a list of my injuries. The ones related to lifting except the thumb were all done 8+ years ago in my "HIGH INTENSITY" BB'ing days BTW. The shoulder, knee, and low back have never healed all the way. They are still problematic at times. And the worst thing is they all could have been prevented, and reduced (if I hadn't rushed back to the gym). The list isn't as long as some notaries such as Dave Tate, but at least he had the glory of being world class. I received nothing for my efforts but a lot of experience of things that don't work, that I like to share to prevent others from following the same path.

Here is my injury laundry list.

Broken left collar bone, never healed quite right. Motorcycle wreak age 16

Every finger and all toes broken on right hand and foot at least somewhere from martial arts and bar fights. Left thumb cut off at first digit--motorcycle wreak.

Neck in terrible shape from being rear ended by some chick doing 50 not noticing the traffic stopped because she was putting on makeup. Neck in traction 3 x a week for 6 months.

Torn rotators both shoulders. Pretty lightly torn though.

Upper back broken. Not sure if it was a motorcycle wreak or the time I was jumped and beaten by 6 guys and left for dead. Every time I get an x-ray the doc says "how the heck did you break your back like that" and is really dismayed when I tell him I am not sure which time it was--lol. After both incidents I couldn't walk for almost 2 weeks.

2 herniated disks low back. Was told I would never lift again. *******S.

Umbilical hernia. 1st time age 5 trying to lift a big rock--lol. 2nd time age 34 or 35 pulling 625 in the rack.

Shot with 45 in the pelvic region, slug still in me--don't ask.

Left knee cap ground down a good ways through from a motorcycle wreak. Thrashed from the inside doing 1100 lb leg presses and going down to fast when fatigued.

Oh yeah, my big concern at the moment, right thumb got severely dislocated when a 335 lb floor press got out of shape and it is almost popping out of joint now doing very light things. Very concerned about it losing all integrity in the thumb.

Sometime when I have a moment I will go over how the lifting injuries happened. Needless to say machismo, stupidity, and poor lifting advice (behind the neck presses, and WIDE grip benches anyone) were the main culprits.

Lift smart, and don't let your ego get the best of you. When you get injured (and you will if you lift long enough) LET IT HEAL before going back into the gym, at least before going back for the effected area. A few weeks, or even a few months off will not set you back. A long term injury will. I was off for 4 full months after my belly button popped and my guts were almost poking out. I did VERY LIGHT training for 2 more, at the 7 month mark, it tore again. It is still tore to this day. One thing I learned was the size and strength I had came RIGHT back.

If your whole world revolves around nothing but your training and your body, you are not a very well balanced person. Seek balance. What am I doing while off? Pulling the sled, doing cardio, and doing more mind training. When my thumb, shoulders, and back are ready, I will hit the gym. I would surely not prefer to be in this position one of the most important things one ever learns is that it’s not what happens to you in life that counts, its how you handle what occurs.

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Old 08-06-2006, 05:35 PM   #2
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how do you tell the difference between good and bad pain??

you know between soreness and injury??
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Old 08-06-2006, 05:38 PM   #3
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Old 08-07-2006, 06:02 AM   #4
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Broken ankle no lower body workouts for me for 3 more weeks. It's KILLING me lol. I wanna dead-lift or squat soo bad. But no way will I risk hurting myself permenately.
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Sound advice, but hard to follow when doctors don't even know what you have. My right erector spinae muscle has been slightly spasmed since June (after hyperextensions), and I'v seen some docs, ostheopath, physiotherapist, got radiographies, MRI, and they all say that they found nothing wrong with my back, yet they all notice that spasm by simply touching it. Frankly after a certain amount of time waiting and doing nothing, and seeing NO improvement (in my case 4 months for something that, according to docs, is minor), you get kinda fed up. It makes you feel like you're waiting for nothing. I don't know if any of you guys has any ideas on what to do to undo spasms (my discs are perfectly healthy, my ligaments and muscles should be since I'v been resting them for over 4 months). Back "manipulation" didn't do anything either...any ideas?
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how do you tell the difference between good and bad pain??

you know between soreness and injury??
Trust me you'll know when you have an injury. I pulled my lower back out by doing deadlifts too heavy. I was out for about a month and still not completely healed. I just have to give it time.
When you get an injury it ****ing hurts.
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i got a question. what is this inside-side of my calf/ankle pain that i get when i run? its only when i run, and it never ever goes away so long as i run.

and dont tell me not to run anybody, because i need endurance for my mma training and its not something so painful that it will stop me
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i got a question. what is this inside-side of my calf/ankle pain that i get when i run? its only when i run, and it never ever goes away so long as i run.

and dont tell me not to run anybody, because i need endurance for my mma training and its not something so painful that it will stop me
Did you injury yourself in anyway? Or just random pain?
Hmm is it your muscle, joint or bones? Plus when does it hurt? Is it only when you apply pressure when you run? You could try biking/swimming/other cardio to build up your endurance IF it only hurts when you run.

Because I had a similar injury or same part lol, I ripped my calves muscles + fuked up my tendon lol. I was doing the max weight 600 on the calf machine + I jogged like miles that day... next day I woke up..GG LOL worst pain ever. Anyway I stayed home for 2 weeks eating/sleeping/gaming hahaahha it was an excuse from going to high school back then.

And yes I am INJURED/HURT lol, I fuked up my elbow from doing shoulder exercises I lifted too heavy T_T I think it's my tendon. I've been sleeping/drinking lots of water + sleep. It has been 2 weeks already.. Anyone else have any ideas other than taking cissus or whatever it's called. I wanna go back to weight training so badly T_T!!!

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i got a question. what is this inside-side of my calf/ankle pain that i get when i run? its only when i run, and it never ever goes away so long as i run.

and dont tell me not to run anybody, because i need endurance for my mma training and its not something so painful that it will stop me
Shin splints or in an extreme case stress fractures ??

I had shin splints when I ran and they went away after I ran them off. You can go to a podiatrist and see if you are flatfooted, high arched, etc and can issue you with a slip on for your shoes.
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