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Old 06-28-2006, 07:19 PM   #1
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Da cold approch. What do you puas do??

**** I'm over analyzing everything guys.
Ok ok--so after TONS of useless threads I've made I'm just going to make this ONE thread here.
Keep it simple.

What do you guys (the actual puas on this board) say to girls in regards to cold approching? I have all the other elements down, but the cold approch is the HARDEST thing for me.
I know there is no "line" or oneliner you can use on any women to approch her.

But whats a good cold approch? Depends on the situation?
I'm talking totally random places here (libary, mall, elseware, grocery store, e.t.c.-not clubs/bar scene)

With me everytime I see a girl by herself I just choke up--I'm not afraid of talking to her, its not fear of rejection or anything--its just that I start over analyzing things and start thinking of wtf I should say to her-besides "hi".
And even if I just think of somthing simple like "hey-how you doing?" or w/e I'll choke up and I'll start over analyzing even that!
I know I have nothing to loose---why am I over analyzing! ****!

WTF am I posting on here agian for! ****!!! wtf....
anyhow thx...

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Old 06-28-2006, 07:30 PM   #2
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Talking

I generally just make bull**** up.

Be congruent about it too, meaning you basically have to convince yourself it happened and you believe it.

Trainstation:

Me: "Hey did you see the guy busking down stairs" Her: "No" Me: Some dude just stole his cash and he ran off after blah blah".

Library:

Me: "Whats a innocent girl like you doing in such a wild place like this"

Just think through carefully though. I had it almost backfire once where they wanted to see what I made up on the spot for real.

If she does catch you out though just be honest with her and say look I really just needed an excuse to talk to you. By then if you have developed enough rapport then most likely she would be cool with it.
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Old 06-28-2006, 07:35 PM   #3
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Just think through carefully though. I had it almost backfire once where they wanted to see what I made up on the spot for real.
If she does catch you out though just be honest with her and say look I really just needed an excuse to talk to you. By then if you have developed enough rapport then most likely she would be cool with it.


ya thats the problem with me-is thinking through it carefully.
I think TO carefully (i.e. overanalyze things, and if I did manage to go cold approch a girl I'd probally totally stumble and fcuk up). I know I have nothing to loose.
For example I'm in the libary--see a cute chick sitting by herself, I'm sitting at some other table thinking "ok how about this line ___" "or this line? ______" "nonono that doesn't work" blah blah yada yada. Eventually I just get irritated at myself and say "fcuk it" and/or she leaves.
Sad eh?

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I'll give you one of my personal gems I've had the most success with it's so ****ing simple it's genius.

Basically If she is next to me or within verbal range I will say to her

Me: "Do you notice <Insert statement OR observation here>

Her: "Blah lbah blah"

Do you notice (Basically just take something odd or wierd that happens or an objecty or something that just ****ing stands out) I learnt that from a natural. He also uses this advanced form of statements he taught me which I love to use but I can't give away all my weapons now.
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Old 06-28-2006, 07:45 PM   #5
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Me: "Do you notice <Insert statement OR observation here>
Her: "Blah lbah blah"
mmm...interesting I've never heard that one before.
Like what do you mean though by "do you notice?" like what would you say?
"do you notice my erect cock?" or "do you notice brain peppers over there?" lol
Give me 1 example of what you've said.



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mmm...interesting I've never heard that one before.
Like what do you mean though by "do you notice?" like what would you say?
"do you notice my erect cock?" or "do you notice brain peppers over there?" lol
Give me 1 example of what you've said.



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You have to be creative.

Coffee shop

e.g. Do you notice the coffee's here are always better when this person is always serving.

Blah Blah blah

One of the worst things guys do when entering this business is over analyze. they read tonnes of material from Mystery, TD, ross jeffries etc etc. and sit there thinking ohh **** will this opener be to direct ohh no ill show to much DLV (demonstrate lower value) opening or saying that. Just ****ing concentrate on the conversation no matter how innocent. Building comfort for you is key --> then comfort for girls.
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One of the worst things guys do when entering this business is over analyze. they read tonnes of material from Mystery, TD, ross jeffries etc etc. and sit there thinking ohh **** will this opener be to direct ohh no ill show to much DLV (demonstrate lower value) opening or saying that. Just ****ing concentrate on the conversation no matter how innocent. Building comfort for you is key --> then comfort for girls.
lol thats totally me bro.
I've read tons and TONS of pua material--all sorts of ****, all these weird terms, approches e.t.c. it clogs your mind, confuses the fcuk out of you. Ya I start to think "**** I dont' want to demonstrate lv" or "**** I don't want to come off a pussy-I need to be alpha with this" e.t.c.

Have any other good openers? Or approches?
You don't have to give away all your secerets. lol or you could just pm me.


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Ill help you if you promise to actually go out and try it out....

You: *SPOT HB* Walk straight up to her, raise your hands, say stop !
You: "You are very beautiful, I want to get to know you"
She will be like omg wtf
You: Take her hand and lead her somewhere, where you can both chat, from then on just display good body language, talk about anything, travel, music, but focus on FEELINGS, not ****ing facts. Facts = BORING. Talk about how you feel when doing these things, add some stories.
You: *Give me your number, I want to see you again*
END

If you don't have a relaxed attitude, you will probably do ****. But start approaching and then post the reactions you get, then I will help.

BTW when you get her number, don't be a ****ing boring ass retard and take her to coffee,dinner etc.
Take her rock climbing, Museum, SOMEWHERE INTERESTING.
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Ill help you if you promise to actually go out and try it out....

You: *SPOT HB* Walk straight up to her, raise your hands, say stop !
You: "You are very beautiful, I want to get to know you"
She will be like omg wtf
You: Take her hand and lead her somewhere, where you can both chat, from then on just display good body language, talk about anything, travel, music, but focus on FEELINGS, not ****ing facts. Facts = BORING. Talk about how you feel when doing these things, add some stories.
You: *Give me your number, I want to see you again*
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Thats awesome advice.
But damn that would take a lot of guts.
And really getting it in my head that girls are more attracted to males emotionally then physically. Right now I'm working on that fact.
Until then I'm honestly not going to be able to just go up to some hb8+ and grab her hand and everything.
lol

Maybe I should just try it? Its like a dare. Man---that would take some balls.
So pretty much grab her hand/arm--lead her somewhere, and just start asking her some questions like "hey-whats your fav. kind of music, hows it make you feel" e.t.c. e.t.c. yada yada?
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**** I'm over analyzing everything guys.
Ok ok--so after TONS of useless threads I've made I'm just going to make this ONE thread here.
Keep it simple.

What do you guys (the actual puas on this board) say to girls in regards to cold approching? I have all the other elements down, but the cold approch is the HARDEST thing for me.
I know there is no "line" or oneliner you can use on any women to approch her.

But whats a good cold approch? Depends on the situation?
I'm talking totally random places here (libary, mall, elseware, grocery store, e.t.c.-not clubs/bar scene)

With me everytime I see a girl by herself I just choke up--I'm not afraid of talking to her, its not fear of rejection or anything--its just that I start over analyzing things and start thinking of wtf I should say to her-besides "hi".
And even if I just think of somthing simple like "hey-how you doing?" or w/e I'll choke up and I'll start over analyzing even that!
I know I have nothing to loose---why am I over analyzing! ****!

WTF am I posting on here agian for! ****!!! wtf....
anyhow thx...

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ok first off I will tell you what naturals do. a natural beleives that they can get ANY woman they want. they have huge confidence. usually if they are looking at me, i lock eyes for about 3 sec and then look them from head to toe slowly. this gives you power over the girl. then i stare into her eyes and say "hey i saw you over here and just had to ask you, " its not necessarily what you say, it is how you say it and your body language. the mindset is KEY. KEY!!!
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attract, after 3 indicators of interest switch to comfort. don't try to seduce until you are ready to **** her. and in the enviroment where ur gonna b having sex. if a girl starts to touch you, this is the biggest sign a woman can give that she is attracted to you.
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if its an HB, you need to neg her.

if its an ugly girl, do not neg her cuz she will think ur being serious

I've done pleanty of reading on the negging stuff.
Do you have any personal experiances of negging HBs??

You see guys I look right in girls eyes--do the "head to toe analysis" e.t.c.
But the cold approch as I've said before always gets me.

btw---if I did the "hey I saw you over there and just had to ask you" approch---what sort of stuff would you ask? How would you ask it to show her that your attracted/interested in her.

I've asked girls things before like "where did you get those pants" or some crap like that---but I don't belive it shows my attraction towards them, it just sounds like I'm curious where they got the pants.

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You: walk up to her say hi
Her: Hi
You: Well let me say this to you straight, "when we gunna ****?"
Her: What? (laughs)
You: this isn't a laughing matter, I'm ****ing serious (look her straight in the eye)
Her: (starting to take you serious)
You: (laugh)

Take it from there.
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You: walk up to her say hi
Her: Hi
You: Well let me say this to you straight, "when we gunna ****?"
Her: What? (laughs)
You: this isn't a laughing matter, I'm ****ing serious (look her straight in the eye)
Her: (starting to take you serious)
You: (laugh)

Take it from there.
you have got to be kidding me.
I'd just get slapped/called names/called ugly.
That sort of approch defintly doesn't help. lol!
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Pretend you are deaf and mute so you get sympathy first up off her. Then take out ur penis and rub it against her leg... she will go along with it and probably just laugh because she knows she cant slap you because u are deaf. You cant slap a deaf person.
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K this gets you laid like crazy... ppl will say it doesn't work but that's cuz they are angry and don't have the balls to try it.
You: "So, I noticed your vagina is unoccupied. Wanna fix that?"
Her: "Yes."
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get a wingman to say i ****ing dare u to go do this and that to that girl..

u: im a pussy no way..
friend: double dog dare?
u: arrrrrrrr! /u rush in and get a #/ date

u just need someone there to push u into it.. an audience.

and be confident like everyone says. when u say stuff even if its bs say it like its the most important thing shes ever gonna hear.

i think u mentioned the library.. just sit down by her and say there were no more empty seats.. lucky me.
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K this gets you laid like crazy... ppl will say it doesn't work but that's cuz they are angry and don't have the balls to try it.
You: "So, I noticed your vagina is unoccupied. Wanna fix that?"
Her: "Yes."
I think you know what to do from here son.
lol common guys we are now getting into useless land.
Lets keep the GOOD and real advice coming.
But in regards to that last advice I qouted---would that work in the club enviroment with a already pretty drunk chick?




But ya--the libary thing would be hella funny becuase sense it is summer quarter there are HELLA open seats, going next to some cutie and saying that would be classic/make her laugh.
Ya-I could use a wingman to go clubbing with----the only problem is I have noone to go with becuase they are all in ****ty relationships and they don't want to go clubbing.
I need to go myself---push myself, I need to do it.
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I wonder if the library thing would be better if you said "lucky you" instead of "lucky me".

As far as openers, I got this girl's # by walking up to her in a store and saying "you look cool, wanna give me your discount?" and rolled with the convo. With people in stores, I often do that. Or I straight up say "come on! cheer up, it can't be that bad," if they look sad. Then i'll be like "whats your name?" and i'm in.
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I wonder if the library thing would be better if you said "lucky you" instead of "lucky me".

As far as openers, I got this girl's # by walking up to her in a store and saying "you look cool, wanna give me your discount?" and rolled with the convo. With people in stores, I often do that. Or I straight up say "come on! cheer up, it can't be that bad," if they look sad. Then i'll be like "whats your name?" and i'm in.

Thats cool.
Ya---thats my whole issue is I'm trying to build up my confidence to say "Whats your name" or a simple "hello" like I said I suck at cold approching e.t.c.
but after the convo. is initiated-I can usually get a turn around rate from the initial meeting of the chick to boning her in 3-5 hours. Of course it depends on the situation e.t.c.
After the convos going I become a total pua....but I SUCK at cold approches!

I just need to do simple things like "whats your name" or "hello-how are you?"
I need to man the fcuk up.
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hm

dude it's not one liners or silly lines...

simply a glance to the eyes, make sure you made eye contact.

walk up to the girl and say something she will remember. girls will remember something funny or obserd. for example, I walk into a clothing store, walk straight up to a girl and say "i need a new thong, help me out". girl then jokingly helps you find a thong, will not forget you, and much good conversation comes out of an open underwear search for the opposite sex.

keep it extreme but a little down to earth and make sure its laughy.
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you have got to be kidding me.
I'd just get slapped/called names/called ugly.
That sort of approch defintly doesn't help. lol!
If you do it with confidence anything works
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**** I'm over analyzing everything guys.
Ok ok--so after TONS of useless threads I've made I'm just going to make this ONE thread here.
Keep it simple.

What do you guys (the actual puas on this board) say to girls in regards to cold approching? I have all the other elements down, but the cold approch is the HARDEST thing for me.
I know there is no "line" or oneliner you can use on any women to approch her.

But whats a good cold approch? Depends on the situation?
I'm talking totally random places here (libary, mall, elseware, grocery store, e.t.c.-not clubs/bar scene)

With me everytime I see a girl by herself I just choke up--I'm not afraid of talking to her, its not fear of rejection or anything--its just that I start over analyzing things and start thinking of wtf I should say to her-besides "hi".
And even if I just think of somthing simple like "hey-how you doing?" or w/e I'll choke up and I'll start over analyzing even that!
I know I have nothing to loose---why am I over analyzing! ****!

WTF am I posting on here agian for! ****!!! wtf....
anyhow thx...

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The most important thing is how you come in. You have to come in not facing the target. You want to be walking by her and maybe do a double take and without turning say "HEY... and go into your topic." You can start conversations in stores by looking at a DVD or something and without turning asking her a question over your shoulder. This approach is best and when you think about it that's how you address someone you know, while being preoccupied with something else. It's innapropriate to be too interested in someone you don't know. Remember that.

When you are in conversation for few seconds you can turn and face her. This keeps the pressure off. The number one fear of any woman is that you are some kind of creep who will not leave so it's important that you keep interejecting things like. "i have to go soon but check this out" or other things". The funny thing is the more you tell them you'll be leaving, the more they'll let you stay.

You have to try alot of different things. Opinion openers are the easiest. You can practice by asking for the time, directions to somewhere, then work up to an opinion on something like a problem a friend is having with a gf.

In fact, most of the stuff you see on the threads in relationship help are good fodder. Women LOVE to talk and give opinions on relationship stuff.

The main thing is you need to give an explanation why you're asking. ie my friend needs help and TIME CONSTRAINT. ie I need a quick female opinion.

Something like:

HEY
I need a quick female opinion on something. My friends gf is flying in tomorrow from california. They have a long distance relationship but he's met somebody else and he hasn't told her yet because he knows she'll take it really badly. What do you think he should do? (or something of that nature)

And of course as always you need the approach to look spontaneous, not like you've been staring at her working up your nerve and then come up and ask her an opinion. That doesn't make sense and she'll conclude that your just scheming to hit on her and you'll be blown out.

The thing to remember is you cannot show an inapropriate level of interest in teh beginning.

Then of course you can move from topic to topic like a juggler riffing on various subjects. This is where mystery's book is useful.

But of course the approach is the easy part. The next question is how do you come off as an interesting character and suck her into your world. You must construct a strong identity for yourself.

If you can get her intrigued by your reality she will fall for you. If you are just a boring guy with smalltalk asking for opinions, it will not go.
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Awesome advice so far.
but hey heres a quick question about cold approching.
Say you are just walking in the mall/on the street and some cutie/hotty walks by---shes by herself.
Theres nothing obviousl to chat it up with her about.
What would you say to her?

Remember--she has no obviously cues of somthing you could neg her on. SHes not carrying anything, shes not doing anything specific--just sort of walking.
I know this is a generic questions, and there are no miracle one liners/openers.
So what would each and everyone of you say? Everyone will probally have a differen't answer.



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Awesome advice so far.
but hey heres a quick question about cold approching.
Say you are just walking in the mall/on the street and some cutie/hotty walks by---shes by herself.
Theres nothing obviousl to chat it up with her about.
What would you say to her?

Remember--she has no obviously cues of somthing you could neg her on. SHes not carrying anything, shes not doing anything specific--just sort of walking.
I know this is a generic questions, and there are no miracle one liners/openers.
So what would each and everyone of you say? Everyone will probally have a differen't answer.



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if she glances at you: "u usually stare at strangers?"
or use the cell phone technique.
or make it so that your paths mingle. u know how sometimes two people walking towards each other and one dude goes one way, the other goes the same, and then they keep akwardly moving till they can get past each other. do that and think of something funny to say to her.
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or make it so that your paths mingle. u know how sometimes two people walking towards each other and one dude goes one way, the other goes the same, and then they keep akwardly moving till they can get past each other. do that and think of something funny to say to her.
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ya cool advice so far.
ITs just that its so hard to get it out of my brain that girls are not attracted to guys physically that much.

I mean sure females have the "ultimate" body type (6 pack abs, pecs, e.t.c.) but in reality--these same girls that have these "ultimate" body types can be easily attracted emotionally as long as you have good game.

Somtimes its discouraging to me when a girl will talk about how hot a guy is e.t.c.
But whats funny for example is my **** buddy--so after I boned her I'm giving her a ride home, and shes going on about how "hot" some guy in the fast in the furious movie was. wtf would I be jealous for? I just boned the chick. Did he? no
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go up to a girl and say hey my friend over there has bet me £10 you wont talk to me, so if you stay here for 5 minutes ill give you half

if you get a slap from this dont blame me




serious advice though is to start off as though you aren't trying to hook up with her. do this for 30 seconds to a minute just to relax her, then you can start your routine
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**** I'm over analyzing everything guys.
Ok ok--so after TONS of useless threads I've made I'm just going to make this ONE thread here.
Keep it simple.

What do you guys (the actual puas on this board) say to girls in regards to cold approching? I have all the other elements down, but the cold approch is the HARDEST thing for me.
I know there is no "line" or oneliner you can use on any women to approch her.

But whats a good cold approch? Depends on the situation?
I'm talking totally random places here (libary, mall, elseware, grocery store, e.t.c.-not clubs/bar scene)

With me everytime I see a girl by herself I just choke up--I'm not afraid of talking to her, its not fear of rejection or anything--its just that I start over analyzing things and start thinking of wtf I should say to her-besides "hi".
And even if I just think of somthing simple like "hey-how you doing?" or w/e I'll choke up and I'll start over analyzing even that!
I know I have nothing to loose---why am I over analyzing! ****!

WTF am I posting on here agian for! ****!!! wtf....
anyhow thx...

pz

Just dont worry about it man; I went out last night with a guy I work with (he's bisexual but the women LOVE him), he went over to a table of 6 or 7 girls and said "Hey, do either one of you have some deodorant? I had a shower before i came out but my feet still smell rank! - you wanna smell?"

I was so suprised with their reaction; they were all laughing and giggling, a few of them took to him and asked if he wanted to join them on the table lol.

Most unauthodox approach ive ever seen work lol
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I still don't see a field report... You are going around in circles man, you can't take all the advice posted here because it all contradicts each other depending on your style. GO OUT AND ****ING TRY WHAT WE ARE TELLING YOU TO DO. NOW !
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