Sell Me On: Rey Misterio Jr.

Squizz · 06-02-2006, 06:26 PM

I don't get the hype. Really, I don't. Rey's a great athlete. I just don't like his style of wrestling. His bumping is great. However, is offence is HORRIBLE. He throws those weak-looking kicks. His other strikes are awful as well. All his high-flying stuff is decent, but takes away from the psychology of his matches most of the time. I also believe that Rey has got progressivley worse since 1998. (Who can blame the guy though? He's had like 4 knee surgeries.) In all honesty, of all the matches I've seen of his, I really only liked his match with Eddy from Halloween Havoc '97 and Dean Malenko from GAB '96. His match with Liger was a huge letdown from Starrcade '96. One match I've heard was good, that I unfortunetley haven't been able to see is his match from a WorldWide with Ultimo Dragon. Rey's good, but I certainly don't see him as a World Champion. Keep him in the cruiserweight division. I guess what I'm trying to say is: I really want to like Rey, but something about him just doesn't do it for me. Can you convince me?

ifyour555im666 · 06-02-2006, 06:50 PM

If you can find his match against Ultimo Dragon at Sturgis (the outside one. I'm pretty sure thats the name), its a really good match.

One Man Army · 06-02-2006, 08:42 PM

you know I saw a fantastic match between him and Juve Guerrero at World War 3 1998 I believe.....the WW3 where Nash won

I know thats not a excellant match of his that anyone talks about..but I saw it and thought it was damn good

payton34 · 06-02-2006, 08:43 PM

sorry im in the same boat as you, but you might like the 2 outta 3 falls luche libre deathmatch he had with pyscosis in ecw

HulkHagen · 06-02-2006, 09:00 PM

Eh he's okay, but he sure as hell isn't world title material. Hell, I don't even think he's the best cruiserweight in the WWE. IMO, Kid Kash is a much more well rounded wrestler but he doesn't mave Rey's cartoon character looks that appeals to little kids.

the terminator · 06-03-2006, 09:30 AM

look at rey as the ultimate underdog champ.

Squizz · 06-04-2006, 10:27 AM

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sorry im in the same boat as you, but you might like the 2 outta 3 falls luche libre deathmatch he had with pyscosis in ecw

I've seen the deathmatch, and to be honest, it really didn't do too much for me. Seemed like a bunch of hurrancanranas by Rey, and Psychosis doing all the actual WORK in the match. Chairshot here, brawling into the crowd, usual ECW slopfest. Myself, I think their match from WAR in 1995 was MUCH better. Now, you mention Psychosis, who I feel is a far and away better wrestler than Rey Jr. Want proof? Watch his match with Yoshirio Tajiri from the ECW Arena on 8/19/00. I'll go out on a limb, and say it was an actual better WRESTLING match than Rey Jr./Eddy from Halloween Havoc '97. It's close, but I'll give the edge to the Halloween Havoc match, just because it was much better for the timeframe in question. Other than that, I'm still not sold on Rey Jr. In particular the roided up version of him. As for the underdog aspect, he looked a heckuva lot more like an underdog when he weighed 135 lbs. And he was a heckuva lot more mobile too back then. Still not sold.

Abyss · 06-04-2006, 10:35 AM

I agree with the thread starter alot. Don't get me wrong either Rey is good, but lets face it since he has become WHC, nothing exciting has happened on SD. He dosen't do ****, he is not appealing to me as world champion not because he's small I don't care how small he is, its not that. He just dosen't appeal to be champion just like the thread starter said something about him myself I can't grasp.

user239605087107802b · 06-04-2006, 11:53 AM

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I agree with the thread starter alot. Don't get me wrong either Rey is good, but lets face it since he has become WHC, nothing exciting has happened on SD. He dosen't do ****, he is not appealing to me as world champion not because he's small I don't care how small he is, its not that. He just dosen't appeal to be champion just like the thread starter said something about him myself I can't grasp.

He has been booked pretty horribly. It pretty difficult for any cruiserweight to be appealing in the WWE. Would love to see Rey bust out his whole aresenal in the X-division. The "E" limits him a lot.

BigDreams21 · 06-04-2006, 12:31 PM

I agree with the OP.. I'm no Rey fan. I respect him, but I don't think he's a great wrestler by any means.

payton34 · 06-04-2006, 01:10 PM

when i was reading this stuff i thought about nash and how he said the x-division are just fillers and rey would fit in that category too, anyways didnt rey beat nash in wcw with reversing the jacknife into a victory roll or something (not trying to hi-jack or anything, jw)

HulkHagen · 06-04-2006, 02:24 PM

Yeah he punched his way out of it. Nash fell straight backwards out of the powerbomb, and Rey landed on him kinda like a higher Lou Thesz Press and pinned him out of it.

my_whey · 06-04-2006, 02:33 PM

Rey is a great CRUSERWEIGHT. Nothing more.

Squizz · 06-04-2006, 03:23 PM

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Yeah he punched his way out of it. Nash fell straight backwards out of the powerbomb, and Rey landed on him kinda like a higher Lou Thesz Press and pinned him out of it.

Yes, and the only reason that this happened IIRC, was becasue people were complaining that Nash wasn't doing any jobs, because he was booker, or had some serious influence in the booking meetings. It was his way of saying, "Well, I put Rey over, so I'm not losing ALL the time." As if every wrestling fan alive didn't see through that. Another example would be HHH. Loses to Shelton Benjamin, but it didn't do anything for Shelton. Just like beating Nash didn't do anything for Rey. You can job, but to me, that's still not putting someone over. It has to be done right. Heck, if you make it look right, a wrestler can actually BEAT someone and put them over. IE: Bret Hart beats Steve Austin at WM 13.

Squizz · 06-04-2006, 03:26 PM

Oh, and another good example of this type mentality was when people were getting fed up with Hogan in 1996-1997. First, at Starrcade '96 he loses CLEAN to Roddy Piper via the sleeper hold. Thing is, WCW didn't announce that it was a non-title match until AFTER the match happened. Geez, even in it's glory days WCW was STILL a clustef*ck. Also, on Nitro where Hogan jobbed the title to Luger in Pontiac, MI at the Palace. (I was gonna go, but didn't get the chance to get tickets, and I'm still pissed about it.) Only to have Hogan win the belt back one week later, totally defeating the purpose.

HulkHagen · 06-04-2006, 06:12 PM

Don't forget the whole Wrath incident. He was getting a pretty decent sized push, and had a little undefeated streak going, and for some unknown reason Nash books himself over Wrath, ending his streak and basically killing his momentum as a singles' wrestler.

HardGainer82 · 06-05-2006, 08:44 AM

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Yes, and the only reason that this happened IIRC, was becasue people were complaining that Nash wasn't doing any jobs, because he was booker, or had some serious influence in the booking meetings. It was his way of saying, "Well, I put Rey over, so I'm not losing ALL the time." As if every wrestling fan alive didn't see through that. Another example would be HHH. Loses to Shelton Benjamin, but it didn't do anything for Shelton. Just like beating Nash didn't do anything for Rey. You can job, but to me, that's still not putting someone over. It has to be done right. Heck, if you make it look right, a wrestler can actually BEAT someone and put them over. IE: Bret Hart beats Steve Austin at WM 13.

While I agree with you on Nash's motivation for putting Rey over himself, I disagree completely that it did nothing for Rey. He took on the "giant killer" persona, beat Bigelow and Norton (and yes, lost to Nash again) got a HUGE push, won the tag titles a bunch of times, became the premier CW as well as one of the top three faces in the company, and got at least a few main events out of it.