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Old 05-29-2006, 06:56 PM   #1
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List of teams, people that use hit

Here's a brief compilation of athletes, professional sports teams and collegiate level teams, etc., who use HIT.
The U. S. Military Academy has been using HIT since the early 1970's - despite having several different strength coaches during that time.
Pittsburgh Steelers, Minnesota vikins, cincy, phily, arizona, washington
tampa, carolina and ny giants, pitt penguins

Detroit Tigers and San Diego Padres. Its also to note Albert Pujos, scott rolen, brad wilkeson, and many colorado rockies also do hit
the Boston Celtics. Many players that have done hit while on the celtics have brought their hit routines to their new teams,like antoine walker, walter mccarty,

1996 U.S. Olympic Women's Basketball Team
The University of Kentucky (except football)
Southeast Missouri State University, Villanova, penn state, michican, stanford, michigan state, toledo , providence, western kentucky, us military acacademy, cincy, drexel.

University of Miami (FL) -- basketball (M/W), baseball, track

It also to note these teams did not just decide to experiment using hit or to try it out just to see it it worked. Almosy every team listed still uses hit and some even have made it better by modifying and some use mentzer hit almost to the exact.

KEVIN TOLBERT - adopted son of Dr. Ken Leistner.
Was a 5'9" 220 pound running back at the U.S. Naval Academy.

Ran a 4.5 40.

Performed 20 to 23 reps with 375 lbs and 15 x 405 lbs in the bench press at a bodyweight of 230 lbs.

Benched 510lbs in a legal, competitive style.

Performed 30 x 600 lbs in the barbell squat at a bodyweight of 248 lbs.

Performed 30 reps of 450 lbs in the deadlift in the spring of 1985 at a Gold's Gym in Philadelphia - immediately after a performing a set of squats for 30 reps [weight unknown] taking only the time necessary to change the weight.
This man is an incredible physical specimen. At one time, he was said to be one of the strongest, massive 250 lb men on the planet.

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- 2X National Heavyweight Bando KickBoxing Champion
- Former running back University of Miami
- Olympic competitor in 1984 in the Shot and Discus
Ht: 6'2"
Weight: 258 lbs

Full body - low sets 2 for 8-10 reps for 4-5 exercises for upper body, higher repetitions for lower body. Trains approximately three times a week. Sometimes less if feels overtraining.

RAY MENTZER - ex-pro-bodybuilder

January 5, 1983:
Weight: 253 lbs
Arm size: 19 3/4"

After training using one set to failure of eight exercises approximately six weeks later:

February 21, 1983:
Weight: 260 lbs
Arm size 20 1/8"
In noticeably leaner condition (exact bodyfat % not available)
Ray Mentzer's workout on June 15, 1983 (all Nautilus machines):
Duo Squat: 560lbs x 20
Pullover: 275lbs x 8
Behind-Neck pulldown: 200lbs x 9
Lateral Raise: 290lbs x 7
Overhead press: 200lbs x 11
10 degree chest: 275lbs x 8
Multi Biceps: 190lbs x 10
Lower Back: 400lbs x 12

MIKE MENTZER - Ex-pro-bodybuilder, Mr. Universe (1979), 1st runner-up, Mr. Olympia (1979). Made the best gains of his career using HIT. Here's a description of Mentzer's chest routine used on July 20, 1983:

1. Nautilus 40 degree chest: 300lbs x 6
NO REST,
2. Decline Press, negative only: 325lbs x 10

NO REST

3. 10 Degree Chest: 275lbs x 8

DORIAN YATES - Pro-bodybuilder, Six-time Mr. Olympia (1992-97)

Personally trained by Mike Mentzer. Has stated on the record that he made his best gains using HIT, and in fact uses LOWER VOLUME than Mike Mentzer did.

CASEY VIATOR - Ex-pro-bodybuilder. To this day the youngest man to win the Mr. America contest at age 18, under the tutelage of Arthur Jones. Viator in the early '80s supposedly trained with a much higher volume.

However, Mark Asanovich, Strength Coach of the Tampa Bay was in Gainesville, Florida in 1994 to attend a MedX Seminar and ran into Viator.

During lunch with Asanovich, Viator said that he was training for one of the Senior Men's National Bodybuilding contests. He was also doing some personal training in Charleston, South Carolina. According to Asanovich, Casey is "high intensity through and through" and "back" to training HIT.

DR. KEN LEISTNER

374 pound legal bench press at 152 lb bodyweight in 1987.
Leistner is shown in one photograph weighing a solid 230lbs.
The picture has him at that weight balancing a glass of water on his upper chest.
Other official lifts:
Deadlift - 660lbs
Squat - 555lbs x 1, and 255 for 100
Bench Press - 455lbs
Note: Leistner would bench press ONLY ONCE PER MONTH.

GREG ROMAN - Foster son of Dr. Ken Leistner. Former 5'8" 235 lb noseguard for John Carroll

Trains 2 days per week, for a total of 9 exercises per workout.
One recent workout of trap bar deadlifts: 455lbs x20
BILL PICHE - My personal good friend, creator of the Cyberpump! Web page and author of the Powerlifting FAQ as well as articles in Powerlifting USA, HT Newsletter, Hardgainer and Master Trainer.

Competed as a powerlifter in the American Drug Free Powerlifting Association. Deadlifted over triple bodyweight - 600lbs at a bodyweight of 193lbs - which was ranked #49 in the nation in the 198lb weight class.

475lbx11 in the regular deadlift

3. 10 Degree Chest: 275lbs x 8

DR. KEN LEISTNER
374 pound legal bench press at 152 lb bodyweight in 1987.
Leistner is shown in one photograph weighing a solid 230lbs.
The picture has him at that weight balancing a glass of water on his upper chest.

JEFF REINEBOLD - Assistant coach of the CFL's British Columbia Lions reports these gains from 6 WEEKS of a HIT program consisting of 12-14 exercises, one set to failure
JOHN WELDAY - strength coach of the Pittsburgh Penguins (NHL). Played football at Penn State. At one time was 6'2" and 260 pounds. Tom Montebell (National Fitness Institute and Exercise Center/Rockville, Maryland) reported seeing Welday use the entire weight stack during Leg Extensions on the old Nautilus Compound Leg Machine - WITH ONE LEG AT A TIME.

ROB DRIBBON - In the late 1980s, held the New Jersey State Teenage record in the bench press: 265 at a body weight of 132 (double bodyweight) in a sanctioned meet. Dribbon bench pressed twice per week (Mon and Fri) using a low amount of multiple sets. All other exercises were done HIT style (i.e., one set to failure using a 6-9 rep range followed quickly by several breakdown or negative reps). Trained 3 times per week. Wed workout was done all HIT - no bench press this day (did one set of negative only dips instead). Workouts without bench press rarely lasted more than 20 minutes.

TONY ALEXANDER - Princeton University, training partner of Matt Brzycki. Has trained exclusively HIT for about 3 years. Currently 6'1" and 235 pounds. Recently measured at under 11 percent bodyfat. Averages about 1 hour and 20 minutes of lifting PER WEEK.

DESMOND HOWARD -

DEAN DINGMAN - 6' 7/8" 290 pounds, 5.43 40 time.
players train only 20-40 MINUTES, two or three times/week.]

JIM LACHEY - 6'6" 300 lbs. Now with another HIT team, the San Diego Chargers.
JOE JACOBY - 6'8" 315 lbs. Former Redskin offensive tackle.

MATT MILLEN - of the Redskins, "They've always been the strongest team in the league."

KEVIN ALLEN - 6'5". Increased bodyweight from 312 to 330 in 10 weeks using HIT.

GREG HUNTINGTON - Penn State football. 6'4". Increased weight from 235 to 260 and decreased bodyfat from 17.1 percent to 16.7 percent in one summer using HIT.

KEN MOYER - 6'6" 293 Cincinnati Bengal offensive lineman (former University of Toledo Rockets - another HIT NFL team) performed 14 x 595 on the Hammer Leg Press.

MARCUS AMICK 6'1". Increased bodyweight from 258 to 265 and decreased bodyfat from 15 percent to 13 percent in a 10 week off-season HIT program. DOUG SPIDEL increased bodyweight from 248 to 255 and decreased bodyfat from 17 percent to 12 percent in same program. (University of Toledo)


ANTHONY MUNOZ - regarded by many as the BEST OFFENSIVE LINEMAN IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL.

Member of the Team of the Decade, 1980s.

100 reps with 400 lbs on the Hammer Leg Press

DARREN CARRINGTON - 6'1" 205 pound cornerback for the San Diego Chargers. Increased bodyweight 20 pounds since turning pro and training using HIT. Also now has 4% bodyfat.


What the ACSM Recommends

The American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM) in its position stand entitled "The Recommended Quantity and Quality Exercise for Developing and Maintaining Cardiorespiratory and Muscular Fitness in Healthy Adults" recommends (based on all the available scientific literature) one set of 8-12 reps of 8-10 exercises for two days/week. Even though this is recommended for sedentary adults, it is still considered appropriate for athletes due to the fact that they can typically train harder.

, John Little, used to write a monthly column in the British version of FLEX magazine. Little told a story about a neighborhood training partner of his who developed 19" arms doing 20 sets/bodypart, 6 days/week workouts. The bodybuilder soon became burned out and disappears. Two years later the guy with the big arms suddenly resurfaces at a local gym. In a matter of weeks he's bigger than ever with arms that are called "too big" by some onlookers. "And he's training differently," say all the local bodybuilders.

"As it turned out," writes Little, "he was indeed training differently. In fact the difference in his training could quite accurately be described as revolutionary. He was not heading in the direction of more work. In fact, he was so far down at the opposite end of the volume scale that Ellington Darden would have kissed him! He was now training a mere three times a week and performing a total of 6 sets/workout for only one set/exercise"

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Old 05-29-2006, 07:11 PM   #2
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This is the second time you've posted this and it's still wrong. Care to spin again ? I'll give you a hint the Colts use HIT, so how come they are'nt on your list. The Panthers DON'T use HIT and yet thier on your list.
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Old 05-29-2006, 08:12 PM   #3
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i said more coming, chill out and yes the panthers do hit.
Ill make you a deal
How about if none of the hit people ever make a post in a volume or 5x5 thread ever again if you all dont post when someone asks a question about hit? Is it a deal?
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and since pro teams use it then that means its good right? and we all kknow pros do no form of steroids what so ever right?

who cares if teams use it. i know some teams that has guys who do drugs should i do those to.

posting this **** is gonna make some 15 yearold kid read this and go wow i should do hit. do us a favor add a "s" to your hit and it would be called **** since thats basically what i consider it.

WARNING TO YOUNG LIFTERS!!!!!

please do not use hit even if these so called resources are true which i doubt
o ya by the way there .... i was stationed at the Naval Academy with the MArine Security Company back when I was a active duty Marine and I talked with the strength coaches and the football team NO ONE USED HIT THEY USE A PUSH/ PULL/ LEG approach I have a copy of there lifting program.

so I doubt that the one player u have on there used hit.
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hahaha...the military uses HIT.

whatever, retard. someone post up kingfish's greatest s(HIT)s, please, so we can make sure we know where this moron is coming from.

and where in God's name do you get the idea that my Steelers and Penguins use HIT? You're drunk and completely full of ****.
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Good post Kingfish, I did not know all them use HIT, you should come over here, the majority use HIT.

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hahaha...the military uses HIT.

whatever, retard. someone post up kingfish's greatest s(HIT)s, please, so we can make sure we know where this moron is coming from.

and where in God's name do you get the idea that my Steelers and Penguins use HIT? You're drunk and completely full of ****.
I was, well still am associated in the forces, and yes parts of the forces world wide do use HIT.

Why do you all spoil HIT threads, your funny guys, I got it, the only way you would keep coming into a HIT thread is because you’re jealous ??? Or what other reason is it, as we don't spoil your threads, now do we

See your from the USA Keith, as I have not a clue who or what the Steelers and Penguins are, but I think it must be from that game when all the men pad up to protect themselves from hurting themselves, we on this side of the pool play full contact Rugby, we don't need any padding, we can take the knocks, yes I was a bit childlike then, but come on guys, you are all the time.

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yes the steelers use hit, the steel curtain used hit, kevin greene and greg loyd, and rod woodson also did hit. Im only posting this because people asked for teams, people that have used hit or do hit.

Also i have a specialized modified hit routine for beginners that i have great results with that blows away any volume routine. plus who lifts weights and starts doing hit. Not many.
IN fact id say 70 percent of all lifters have neve even heard of hit or mentzer.
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This does'nt look like Hit to me http://www.houstontexans.com/fitness...php?PRKey=1215
Now do your own damn home work.

Teams that 'CLAIM' ($$$$$) to use Hit in the NFL:
Steelers...sorry Keth
Buccaneers
Bengals
Jets ( last year not now )
Jags
Cardinals
Colts
If you think others are useing it ( or at least claiming to ) prove it. Post a link.
Heres a clue The Pats have NEVER used Hit, check the S+Cs bio.
Oh and Kingfish the Panthers S+C coach is Jerry Simmons who like thier coach John Fox started with the Pats http://www.panthers.com/team/coachbio.jsp?id=1123
If you want to see this process in action check out http://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coaches/show/936
New head coach Eric Mangini new S+C coach Markus Paul, both from the New England Patriots. The Jets said good by to Hit, it left with Herm Edwards. My condolances to K.C. fans.
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Here's a brief compilation of athletes, professional sports teams and collegiate level teams, etc., who use HIT.
The U. S. Military Academy has been using HIT since the early 1970's - despite having several different strength coaches during that time.
Pittsburgh Steelers, Minnesota vikins, cincy, phily, arizona, washington
tampa, carolina and ny giants, pitt penguins
Penguins ? Is that a NEW NFL team ?
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