The 9/11 Reichstag Fire

[BringtheNoise]

Q Scott, a few days ago, conservative columnist Paul Craig Roberts had a column where he compared the administration's use of September 11th with Hitler and the Reichstag fire as a blanket cover for extraordinary measures. Now, this is coming from a conservative columnist; this is not Nancy Pelosi. Doesn't this concern you that these kind of reactions have come up especially with all the revelations about the NSA and spying?

MR. McCLELLAN: I haven't seen his column -- I haven't seen his column. But what -- your characterization I would reject wholeheartedly.

Press Briefing by Scott McClellan, 1/5/2006


The 9/11 Reichstag Fire

The Reichstag fire on February 27, 1933 was a disaster for Communists because they received the blame for starting it, but it was a dream come true for Hitler as it allowed him to transform Germany from a democracy into a dictatorship. The rest, as they say, is history.

Excerpt from History Channel documentary detailing evidence of Hitler's supporters burning down the Reichstag in 1933

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"If only the German courts knew then what Hersch Fischler knows now history might well have been very different"

The Reichstag Fire - 68 years on

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/Reichstag2.jpg



Did the Bush administration try the same trick on September 11, 2001?

The victims of the 9/11 attacks have been disaster for Muslims because 19 Arabs were named as hijackers of the planes, but they've been a dream come true for the PNAC 'think-tank' whose 2000 Statement of Principles stated a "catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor" would advance their policies, i.e. justify wars and "regime changes".

"This is about control over Middle East oil. [The Statement of Principles] indicates that America is aiming for global leadership, both military and economically..." - Michael Meacher, UK MP

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The fact that Pearl Harbor was engineered by the US government to bring America into WWII would have been known by PNAC signatories...

10 [PNAC members] are now in the Bush administration. As well as Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, they include Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage; John Bolton, who is undersecretary of state for disarmament; and Zalmay Khalilzad, the White House liaison to the Iraqi opposition. Other signatories include William Kristol, editor of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine, and Richard Perle, chairman of the advisory Defense Science Board.

ABC News 3/10/2003

...so their statement actually referred to policy advancement through a governmentally orchestrated "catastrophic and catalyzing event" - Operation Northwoods is an example of this thinking.

The "new Pearl Harbor" occurred on 9/11...

Like his father, Bush tries to keep a daily diary of his thoughts and observations. That night, he dictated: "The Pearl Harbor of the 21st century took place today."

Washington Post

...and now wars and "regime changes" are justified by the events of that day:

U.S. President George W Bush ... defended the war in Iraq, telling Americans the United States was forced into war because of the Sept 11 terror strikes.

Japan Today 17/06/05

"The Pearl Harbor of the 21st century" effectively thrust PNAC's radical ideas to the fore, so were the events of 9/11 governmentally orchestrated?

Well, there were many exercises prior to 9/11 which related specifically to the events of that day:

NORAD conducted exercises with fighter jets simulating hijacked planes flown into the World Trade Center in the two years before the attacks. Pentagon planners also envisioned the attack on the Pentagon five months before it happened.

WMV video download (936kB)

From July 26, 2001 John Ashcroft stopped traveling on commercial airlines:

In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term.

CBS NEWS

World Trade Center staff received evacuation drills prior to 9/11:

Ben Fountain, 42, a financial analyst with Fireman's Fund, was coming out of the Chambers Street Station, headed for his office on the 47th floor of the south tower. "How could they let this happen? They knew this building was a target. Over the past few weeks we'd been evacuated a number of times, which is unusual. I think they had an inkling something was going on."

People magazine September 12, 2001

On September 10 top Pentagon officials were compelled to cancel travel plans:

On Sept. 10, NEWSWEEK has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns.

MSNBC 9/24/2001

Also on September 10 Willie Brown, the former Mayor of San Francisco, was warned about air travel:

Brown received a warning about 10 PM on the evening of September 10 to be cautious about air travel. He was scheduled to fly to into New York City. Brown refuses to say exactly who gave him the prescient warning, citing only "my security people at the airport."

SFGate 9/12/2001

[BringtheNoise]

An imminent attack was forecast...

"The Director of the CIA warned that there could be an attack—an imminent attack—on the United States of this nature. So this is not entirely unexpected."

Memory Hole

...maybe that's why FEMA was in New York on September 10.

Finally, the timing of the 9/11 attacks was a "Godsend" for the Bush Administration.

You may say the above are coincidences, but why was the investigation into the WTC collapses an underfunded farce? If an airliner truly brought down WTC 2 then a major enquiry should have been launched into the collapse.

"The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it, that was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building could probably sustain multiple impacts of jet liners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door - this intense grid - and the plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting."

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/demartini.jpg

Video of DeMartini's comments

Aircraft Comparisons:
Boeing 707 - Boeing 767

The building withstood the plane's impact and subsequently contained only office fires, yet it collapsed in less than an hour. Why wasn't this collapse thoroughly investigated because the proposed theory does not withstand scrutiny.

In October [2001], press reports revealed that White House staff had been on a regimen of the powerful antibiotic Cipro since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Judicial Watch wants to know why White House workers, including President Bush, began taking the drug nearly a month before anthrax was detected on Capitol Hill.

WorldNetDaily

Why did airplanes flying into buildings prompt White House staff to start taking Cipro?

• How was it known that Bush was secure in Booker Elementary School during the attacks?
• How was it known that the World Trade Center was going to collapse?
• Why did explosions occur before the WTC collapses?
• Why was WTC 7 rigged for demolition?
• Why has no-one been held accountable for the lack of military response on 9/11?
• Why were innocent Arabs named as hijackers?
• Why do pre-9/11 inside trades on AA and UA options lead to the highest ranks of the CIA?
• Why did Bush try to limit the 9/11 probe, starve it of funds, and obstruct investigations?

There can be only one reason for the above: 9/11 wasn't a surprise attack, it was a governmentally orchestrated "catastrophic and catalyzing event" - the Nazis attempted to initiate a New World Order by burning the Reichstag, an identical objective lay behind the 9/11 attacks.

"There is a chance for the President of the United States to use the disaster . . . to carry out what his father - a phrase his father used I think only once, and it hasn't been used since - and that is a New World Order."

Senator Gary Hart,
Sept. 14, 2001
mp3

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IM...egime_9-11.jpg

The attacks had the desired catalysing effect...

"I can hear you, the rest of the world hears you ... and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon."

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...and gave the US government the green light to start a pre-planned war in Afghanistan - how convenient it was that the head of the Northern Alliance was assassinated on September 9, 2001.

The attacks also created a much needed enemy, and stripped US citizens of liberties in the guise of fighting terrorism.

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death."

- Adolph Hitler

"There will be no going back to the era before September 11, 2001, to false comfort in a dangerous world."

- George W. Bush

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Watch the History Channel documentary excerpt detailing the burning of the Reichstag and note the parallels to today's 'War on Terror', then read these Bush family connections to 9/11 and dictatorship.

"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator"

- G.W. Bush

CNN video of dictatorship comment

“Who gives a flying **** what the polls say,” he screamed at a recent strategy meeting. “I’m the President and I’ll do whatever I goddamned please. They don’t know ****.”

Capitol Hill Blue 8/25/05

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/bush_fing.gif

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IM...lboardmain.jpg

[SikoJames]

Great post! Everyone should read the entire thing.

Couple of things that screamed READ in my eyes:

NORAD conducted exercises with fighter jets simulating hijacked planes flown into the World Trade Center in the two years before the attacks. Pentagon planners also envisioned the attack on the Pentagon five months before it happened.

Ben Fountain, 42, a financial analyst with Fireman's Fund, was coming out of the Chambers Street Station, headed for his office on the 47th floor of the south tower. "How could they let this happen? They knew this building was a target. Over the past few weeks we'd been evacuated a number of times, which is unusual. I think they had an inkling something was going on."

You may say the above are coincidences, but why was the investigation into the WTC collapses an underfunded farce? If an airliner truly brought down WTC 2 then a major enquiry should have been launched into the collapse.

"The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it, that was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building could probably sustain multiple impacts of jet liners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door - this intense grid - and the plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting."

The building withstood the plane's impact and subsequently contained only office fires, yet it collapsed in less than an hour. Why wasn't this collapse thoroughly investigated because the proposed theory does not withstand scrutiny.

Why was WTC 7 rigged for demolition?

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/cutter.html

Also make sure to look into the collaspes of the 3 towers, the demolition speeds, the prior heard explosions

Match the coincidences to the impossibilies or vice versa. Just READ!

If you dont want to read... heres a list of EXCELLENT 9/11 documentrys

www.universalseed.org

Good thread.

[BringtheNoise]

Originally Posted by SikoJames

If you dont want to read... heres a list of EXCELLENT 9/11 documentrys

www.universalseed.org

Good thread.

Nice site.

[Tamacracker]

Ah yes... maybe one day the American people will see what the Enabling Act and the Patriot Act is...

Enabling Act - Nazi Germany
Patriot Act - Amerika

[~Serpent~]

BringtheNoise : Excellent collection of data regarding self inflicting wounds caused to start war. Very ancient tactic, that unfortunately has always worked due to lack of accessible information and propaganda. The internet has changed that tho.

[BringtheNoise]

Originally Posted by ~Serpent~

BringtheNoise : Excellent collection of data regarding self inflicting wounds caused to start war. Very ancient tactic, that unfortunately has always worked due to lack of accessible information and propaganda. The internet has changed that tho.

Thanks.

[SikoJames]

Well gee uhhhh

I was just gonna argue how the impacts and jet fuel fires could of brought down the 2 towers.

Then I realized no plane hit building 7.

So, uh, ill go to another thread and tell CT's that Flight77 eyewitnesses know EVERYTHING.

After all seeing is believing.

[BringtheNoise]

Originally Posted by SikoJames

Well gee uhhhh

I was just gonna argue how the impacts and jet fuel fires could of brought down the 2 towers.

Then I realized no plane hit building 7.

So, uh, ill go to another thread and tell CT's that Flight77 eyewitnesses know EVERYTHING.

After all seeing is believing.

Hahaha, would rep if I could.

[BlueBayou]

I've noticed the official story believers havent touched this one yet...

When presented with facts that they in no way can dispute, they choose to ignore it.

[Tamacracker]

Don't they understand? The official story is bunk, it sounded ok at first because we were soo deeply in fear of "outsiders/terrorist" attacking our land and we knew that our Government knows how to handle things, we would think they know the precautions. We depended on them soo much that now they've two faced us and the Constitution.

LOL A country fightin terrorism when they sponsored terrorism multiple of times, devilish hypocrites.

[LethalOnGuitarZ]

Originally Posted by BlueBayou

I've noticed the official story believers havent touched this one yet...

When presented with facts that they in no way can dispute, they choose to ignore it.

because u are posting the same **** over and over again no one cares

[Tamacracker]

LOL Typical.... I thought atleast after my ban was lifted that I would come back to see more respectful debates in the R&P section... I'm just waitin for the questions to start pouring in, seems like no one can counter-attack this debate.

[BringtheNoise]

Originally Posted by LethalOnGuitarZ

because u are posting the same **** over and over again no one cares

Tool has a song about people like you. It's called "The pot"

Foot in mouth and head up a$$
So what ya talkin' 'bout?
Difficult to dance 'round this one
'til you pull it out, boy

[SikoJames]

Dont ya guys know?

Witnesses at the Pentagon can debunk anything.

Witnesses hearing explosions at WTC dont know their asses from their elbows.

All the answers can be found in that grainy, nothing of a video, thread.

[BlueBayou]

WOW!
BTN, I think you actually posted too many facts for them to debunk. And I dont think they can read more than two to three sentences at a time. Maybe you better "dumb it down" a little next time.

[illriginal]

Dammit BTN, I keep trying to rep you but it won't let me

Honestly you just shut alot of forum members up, they're viewing this thread but don't have a counter attack on a debating level.

I say anyone that finds CTs to be wrong will probably not post, or post personal attacks just to make themselves feel better. Good job man, keep up the good work.

[hvit]

Originally Posted by illriginal

I say anyone that finds CTs to be wrong will probably not post, or post personal attacks just to make themselves feel better.

Half of this post is personal attacks...

The reason nobody has responded to it is because it's the same ****, over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over again.

[BlueBayou]

Originally Posted by MAMMUT

I have nothing intelligent to say...

Its ok, we understand.

[LethalOnGuitarZ]

Originally Posted by MAMMUT

Half of this post is personal attacks...

The reason nobody has responded to it is because it's the same ****, over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over again.

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Forever

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[hvit]

Originally Posted by LethalOnGuitarZ

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BlueBayou, what wonderful editing you've done. Why'd you do that?

[LethalOnGuitarZ]

I noticed something about these guys... everytime they get torn to pieces in other threads *EG siko james* they run away then throw a barrage of links and quotes at us in ANOTHER thread. It's a clever tactic, because no sane person can really be ****ing bothered to go over the same **** again and again and again and again and again and again...

[SikoJames]

Originally Posted by LethalOnGuitarZ

I noticed something about these guys... everytime they get torn to pieces in other threads *EG siko james* they run away then throw a barrage of links and quotes at us in ANOTHER thread. It's a clever tactic, because no sane person can really be ****ing bothered to go over the same **** again and again and again and again and again and again...

Your spamming a thread and think your winning a factual debate, that alone shows your ignorence..

And I remain posting in all of the current threads, and I have not felt like ive been 'torn to pieces' rather stuck in irrelevent topics that we still win over

You cant refute shyt in this thread, and you know it.

[hvit]

Originally Posted by SikoJames

Your spamming a thread and think your winning a factual debate, that alone shows your ignorence..

He never said that, he said that in other threads you'd been torn to pieces, and just post up another thread with more information.

And I remain posting in all of the current threads, and I have not felt like ive been 'torn to pieces' rather stuck in irrelevent topics that we still win over

Ah, Human nature.

You cant refute shyt in this thread, and you know it.

Sure can.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_reichstag.html

It's almost like everytime something new pops up you link to it.

I think you should all just stop talking to us, and every post just post a link to a www.whatreallyhappened.com or 911truth.org

[majortrepak]

Originally Posted by LethalOnGuitarZ

I noticed something about these guys... everytime they get torn to pieces in other threads *EG siko james* they run away then throw a barrage of links and quotes at us in ANOTHER thread. It's a clever tactic, because no sane person can really be ****ing bothered to go over the same **** again and again and again and again and again and again...

I think you understand their tactics now.

[BringtheNoise]

Originally Posted by MAMMUT

Sure can.

Yet... you didn't.

[SikoJames]

Originally Posted by majortrepak

I think you understand their tactics now.

Lets test your tactic

Building 7 was the third skyscraper to collapse into rubble on September 11, 2001, 7 hours after the collaspe of the 2 towers. According to the government, small fires leveled this building, but fires have never before or since destroyed a steel skyscraper.

Some say it collasped from damage to the bottom corner. Collasped perfectly symetrically down in 6.5 seconds. But as you can see in these images, the first part of the collaspe was the mech. penthouse.

This is the east mechanical penthouse on WTC7:

http://killtown.911review.org/images...-penthouse.jpg

It was the first part of the collapse:

http://killtown.911review.org/video/...house-kink.gif

Then that was followed by the rest:

http://killtown.911review.org/video/...cbs_lowman.gif

Mind you, this building collasped in 6.5 seconds. That rate of fall is within a second of the time it would take an object to fall from the building's roof with no air resistance.

More videos..

http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html

Each of the following videos shows the entire visible portion of the building falling with a vertical precision otherwise seen only in controlled demolition.

[hvit]

Mind you, this building collasped in 6.5 seconds. That rate of fall is within a second of the time it would take an object to fall from the building's roof with no air resistance.

Unless I can't count, the second to last link took it maybe 4 seconds. Fast forward?

Yet... you didn't.

No.... *gasp*

[SikoJames]

Originally Posted by MAMMUT

Unless I can't count, the second to last link took it maybe 4 seconds. Fast forward?


No.... *gasp*

6.5 seconds. 4 seconds?? Your giving these people too much credit.

No, you havent even made a claim. You posted a link that rewords the thread...... and that refutes what exactly?

[hvit]

Huh? I didn't post any links...

The last .gif you posted is most definately not 6.5 seconds...