Thinking of reading the bible cover to cover

[165->190 =]]

I've never been overly religious, never went to church unless i had to and well, never believed in god or anything religious.

Now for some reason i have this overwhelming urge to make my peace with god. I've done a lot of things in my life i've regretted and hurt a lot of people.

I know that just simply reading the bible wont undo all my bads but it would help right? I realise prayer and going to church are other things I could do but im thinking reading it is something for now.

Don't flame cos like i said ive never been overly religious.

What do you all think?

[saz_]

Read the Qur'an as well.

[AaronC]

I'd highly recommend it. It couldn't hurt, and even if you don't believe in God, you'd still have more knowledge about scripture than most athiests, and sadly even some Christians. Read it with an open mind and open heart. God is ready and willing to start a relationship with you. God bless bro.

[165->190 =]]

Originally Posted by AaronC

I'd highly recommend it. It couldn't hurt, and even if you don't believe in God, you'd still have more knowledge about scripture than most athiests, and sadly even some Christians. Read it with an open mind and open heart. God is ready and willing to start a relationship with you. God bless bro.

Great post. I think i'll start tonight. Im actually looking forward to it as weird as it may sound.

[165->190 =]]

Originally Posted by saz_

Read the Qur'an as well.

Thanks, Im not sure what that is but ill look into it. I think baby steps first hey

[US_Ranger]

I suggest one of those nice Study Bibles. They make a lot of the sections a lot easier to understand. They also come with little maps so you actually know the regions being talked about. They also come with timelines so you can remember who comes after who and where.

Some parts are somewhat boring to a typical American (like myself) and some parts are very violent and crazy.

Good luck.

[saz_]

Originally Posted by 165->190 =]

Thanks, Im not sure what that is but ill look into it. I think baby steps first hey

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[bluesky3]

Originally Posted by '165->190 =

Im actually looking forward to it as weird as it may sound.

Yeah that feeling will die soon. From a literary standpoint, I wish you would read Aristophanes or something, you know, well written.

But I really should warn you that you shouldnt get your hopes up about having a 'spiritual revelation' reading the Bible. The Bible is the best (Christian) deconversion tool on the planet. If you just want to be a Christian, I do not think you should read it. Just to warn you-- I dont want you to be disappointed.

[photomasterx]

Originally Posted by saz_

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[1dayIWillBeBig]

Originally Posted by AaronC

I'd highly recommend it. It couldn't hurt, and even if you don't believe in god, you'd still have more knowledge about scripture than most christians, and sadly even some atheists. Read it with a closed mind and accept it or you will suffer. god is ready and willing to eat your heart right now. god bless bro.

I figured I would change your post for you. Making such faulty assumptions like that. I decided to make one too.


I suggest reading the bible as bluesky3 said. It is the best deconversion tool there is.

Also, to the thread starter. Make sure you pick up one copy of every kind of bible. They are all different. Pick up the Quran as well. And all other religious texts so you can become familiar with every religion and their gods. We dont know which one is the right one. Don't wanna end up making peace with the wrong god because it doesn't exist.

Reading the bible will not put you at peace with anything. Take responsibility for your faults, and move on. Everyone makes mistakes.

[photomasterx]

I personally wouldn't read the bible expecting religous salvations either. Although i have read the bible.

The reasons why i would are :

1. The modern bible was not written by jesus or written by jesus request but was written without his persmission years after he had died. Infact vertain parts of the bible are written/modifyed by people who have never even met jesus.

2. The modern bible has been translated too many times while the original writtings are lost so you cannot confirm that the bible is unchanges and infact the bible is changed from the original.

3. Jesus didn't come to create a new religon but came to get jews to follow the torah so christianity doesn't technically exist but was created on jesus behalf although since jesus never asked for it too be created following the bible/"christianty" seem's like a waste of time.

4. "God of Abraham" is singular if you read the torah it is stated numerous time that god is one and has no other parts or family/children/sons. It has clearly stated he is 1 and only 1 with no other parts yet christians claim he has 3 parts to make 1 and jesus is his son. This is impossible jesus can never be the son of the god of Abraham.

personally this quote is why i think chrsitianity/bible is false and belive that islam is the correct version of jesus life :





"O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three"(Trinity) - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender. "
Quran verse 004:171




YUSUFALI: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not
004.157




"And behold! God will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. "
005:116

[Tim]

I'm in a similar situation. I've become a miserable person over the years, for both biological reasons (seratonin imbalance) and circumstances. Hardship is much easier to face for people who have a faith. I recently had a friend who is very religious, and then was thinking about looking further into it (haven't gone to church since I was a kid). If I was still friends with her, I might actually have started going to church again now.

[Sk8er4life]

Originally Posted by 165->190 =]

I've never been overly religious, never went to church unless i had to and well, never believed in god or anything religious.

Now for some reason i have this overwhelming urge to make my peace with god. I've done a lot of things in my life i've regretted and hurt a lot of people.

I know that just simply reading the bible wont undo all my bads but it would help right? I realise prayer and going to church are other things I could do but im thinking reading it is something for now.

Don't flame cos like i said ive never been overly religious.

What do you all think?

Heya , you're better off not being religious, "religion" has a lot of distortion in it. Read your Bible and find a good Bible-based church. I highly recommend these sermons, and you (or anybody) can watch them anytime:


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[notorius1]

You shouldn't even start with the bible.You should reasearch the religions of ancient civilizations like the Sumerians.Then after you've done that,read the bible.

[AKR]

Originally Posted by Tim

I'm in a similar situation. I've become a miserable person over the years, for both biological reasons (seratonin imbalance) and circumstances. Hardship is much easier to face for people who have a faith. I recently had a friend who is very religious, and then was thinking about looking further into it (haven't gone to church since I was a kid). If I was still friends with her, I might actually have started going to church again now.

it's good to know that people are still blatantly using religion as a crutch.

[AKR]

Originally Posted by 165->190 =]

I've never been overly religious, never went to church unless i had to and well, never believed in god or anything religious.

Now for some reason i have this overwhelming urge to make my peace with god. I've done a lot of things in my life i've regretted and hurt a lot of people.

I know that just simply reading the bible wont undo all my bads but it would help right? I realise prayer and going to church are other things I could do but im thinking reading it is something for now.

Don't flame cos like i said ive never been overly religious.

What do you all think?

i really don't understand why someone would turn to religion out of guilt. ok, i do, but i don't think you should do it. you should turn to it if you think it could make sense. you should read the bible if you what to learn about that religion to see if it's something to believe in. but like someone else said, there are many different versions. hell, there are a lot of versions that are missing complete books. anyway, religion shouldn't be adopted in order to ease your conscience.

[coontang]

Originally Posted by photomasterx

I personally wouldn't read the bible expecting religous salvations either. Although i have read the bible.

The reasons why i would are :

1. The modern bible was not written by jesus or written by jesus request but was written without his persmission years after he had died. Infact vertain parts of the bible are written/modifyed by people who have never even met jesus.

2. The modern bible has been translated too many times while the original writtings are lost so you cannot confirm that the bible is unchanges and infact the bible is changed from the original.

3. Jesus didn't come to create a new religon but came to get jews to follow the torah so christianity doesn't technically exist but was created on jesus behalf although since jesus never asked for it too be created following the bible/"christianty" seem's like a waste of time.

4. "God of Abraham" is singular if you read the torah it is stated numerous time that god is one and has no other parts or family/children/sons. It has clearly stated he is 1 and only 1 with no other parts yet christians claim he has 3 parts to make 1 and jesus is his son. This is impossible jesus can never be the son of the god of Abraham.

personally this quote is why i think chrsitianity/bible is false and belive that islam is the correct version of jesus life :





"O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three"(Trinity) - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender. "
Quran verse 004:171




YUSUFALI: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not
004.157




"And behold! God will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. "
005:116

^^^

And here's basically why I'm agnostic. You would have to read EVERY religious book to know which one is the truth. And there are too goddamn many of them.

[Entz]

Which bible are you going to read? Do you realize how many different prints there are of all the different books of the bible? THere are many tomes. Its going to take you a while, a long while.

[Fitqb]

A couple of things:

1. If you are trying to find a religion, then why do you automatically assume that it's Christianity that you should follow? If you're not religious already, then how does reading only the bible, validate the the claims that it makes? Why not read into the teachings of Hinduism? How about Scientology? How about Paganism? What about some obscure Ancient African Tribe's beliefs?

My point here: People choose their religion based on their region's commonly held beliefs and/or what their parents are/were. This only leaves you as a blind, ignorant sheep amid many other fellow sheep. Power in numbers. That's what religion likes, so if you want to be in the majority just for the sake of being in the majority, then the bible's for you.

2. The more people that actually read the bible, the more atheists we'll have. Many people who are Christian don't actually know what the bible says and have never heard many of the outrageous passages that it has. A great quote that summarizes this is from Mark Twain:

"It's not the parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."

Go ahead and read the bible, but if you actually have the time and patience to get through it, it probably won't have the affect on you that you intended.

[Sk8er4life]

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[Persecuted]

Hey mate,

Don't listen to all these guys trying to discourage you, maybe there is a reason why you suddenly felt the need to read the Bible.

What part of Australia are you from? I'm in sydney myself if you have any questions about the Bible or Christianity I'd be glad to answer them for you.

The Quran is the Muslim's holy book I've got one of these as well but trust me your time would be better spent with the Bible.

"The Bible is the best (Christian) deconversion tool on the planet."

This would have to be one of the most thoughtless posts on the planet. Many great philosophers and scholars from past to present have picked up the Bible and converted after reading it. Augustine would be one of the earliest that springs to mind.

Always keep in mind what the apostle Paul said,

1 Thessalonians 5:21

"Test everything. Hold on to the good."

[Revolver45]

I'd definitely recommend reading the bible. It can't hurt, as much as those discouraging you from reading it wish that it would. If you don't have a spiritual revelation, oh well, but if you do then that's great. Don't be afraid to skip over some things (gonna get attakced by atheists but meh). Things like around Genesis chapters 10, 12, etc, where its more a list of who begat who and how long they lived than actual spiritual material. Personally I'd recommend starting with the new testament, or read one chapter from each testament per day or something like that. Reason being that the actual material about Christ is all in the new testament, so you want to get to that stuff as soon as possible. Just read it with an open mind, don't be cynical, or overly-critical, and don't be afraid to research things you don't understand. And as someone mentioned, definitely go with a study bible, especially your first time through, makes it a lot easier to udnerstand and disect.

At very least you'll walk away being able to say you read the bible through and have a better understanding of religion.

Don't be afraid to ask questions on here as well as there are a number of knowledgeable christians on these forums.

[EOY]

I'd say read the Torah, the Bible and the Qur'an. I've got the Bible and the Qur'an. I'm gonna get me a Torah this summer, God willing.

[RideDaLightin]

Originally Posted by bluesky3

Yeah that feeling will die soon. From a literary standpoint, I wish you would read Aristophanes or something, you know, well written.

But I really should warn you that you shouldnt get your hopes up about having a 'spiritual revelation' reading the Bible. The Bible is the best (Christian) deconversion tool on the planet. If you just want to be a Christian, I do not think you should read it. Just to warn you-- I dont want you to be disappointed.

Funny that you mention that the bible is a deconversion tool because I was raised in a catholic household ( and from my experiences Catholicism doesn't really encourage reading the bible, so I guess you may be right, the Catholic Church may fear that if a person reads the bible it will make the person run away from religion) and for a while I became blatantly hostile towards Christianity and perhaps even atheist at some point, but after really getting into the Bible it has brought perspective into my life and only made me stronger in my faith of God.

[anaiya]

Originally Posted by 165->190 =]

I've never been overly religious, never went to church unless i had to and well, never believed in god or anything religious.

Now for some reason i have this overwhelming urge to make my peace with god. I've done a lot of things in my life i've regretted and hurt a lot of people.

I know that just simply reading the bible wont undo all my bads but it would help right? I realise prayer and going to church are other things I could do but im thinking reading it is something for now.

Don't flame cos like i said ive never been overly religious.

What do you all think?

Yeah you should so you can be free of guilt. You're wasting your time. Reading the bible won't right your wrongs. Just learn from your mistakes. If you do read it good luck but all you're looking for is confusion from a book that contradicts itself.

[Sk8er4life]

Originally Posted by 165->190 =]

I've never been overly religious, never went to church unless i had to and well, never believed in god or anything religious.

Now for some reason i have this overwhelming urge to make my peace with god. I've done a lot of things in my life i've regretted and hurt a lot of people.

I know that just simply reading the bible wont undo all my bads but it would help right? I realise prayer and going to church are other things I could do but im thinking reading it is something for now.

Don't flame cos like i said ive never been overly religious.

What do you all think?

Don't listen to the discouragers in this topic. You can be forgiven for all your wrongs and don't let Satan get away with telling you you're still a bad person. There's going to be unbelievers telling you a lot of stuff about the Bible to confuse you. Read it on your own and don't believe the unbelievers, which makes up most of the world.

If you have any questions feel free to contact me by private messaging or AIM: Sk8er4life5025

And don't bother reading the Qur'an, if you want to know why it's a false religion read here:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...t=civilization

It's important to know what the Qur'an teaches, so we can better witness to Muslims and save them from the deception of the Devil. However, to believe what it teaches wrong.

[notorius1]

Don't listen to some hypocritical bible-thumper on this.You'll discover what the bible has to offer all on your own.

[EOY]

Originally Posted by Sk8er4life

Don't listen to the discouragers in this topic. You can be forgiven for all your wrongs and don't let Satan get away with telling you you're still a bad person. There's going to be unbelievers telling you a lot of stuff about the Bible to confuse you. Read it on your own and don't believe the unbelievers, which makes up most of the world.

If you have any questions feel free to contact me by private messaging or AIM: Sk8er4life5025

And don't bother reading the Qur'an, if you want to know why it's a false religion read here:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...t=civilization

It's important to know what the Qur'an teaches, so we can better witness to Muslims and save them from the deception of the Devil. However, to believe what it teaches wrong.

I read that whole thread. How does it prove that Islam is a false religion?

[notorius1]

Originally Posted by Sk8er4life

Don't listen to the discouragers in this topic.

He should listen to you because? The bible and the Koran are both false books. What makes what you have to say more valid than what anyone else has sai in here?Not a thing.

[notorius1]

Originally Posted by EOY

I read that whole thread. How does it prove that Islam is a false religion?

It doesn't.He's just another arrogant christian.