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Old 02-09-2006, 07:59 PM   #1
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The Ultimate: OMFG!!11 My parents are ignorant about supplements!!11!, etc. Thread.

ok boys... its time to teach your parents some lessons...

First off all, this post is only intended for INFORMATION!

So you are about to enter the world of bodybuilding, but your parents are against. What should i do?

Ok, So probably your parents are telling you "You'll stun your growth", "You dont need supplements", "It'll be bad for you". Basically, all you can do is prove them wrong. Not just with cursing your parents until you get grounded or somethin, but with facts. Ill try to help you, As i went through this stage at first. Now my mom even buys me supplements


You cant go to the gym at your age, you'll wont grow anymore!

The whole notion of growth being stunted by weight lifting is
a myth. Weightlifting does not stunt height growth, or
any other kind of growth, for that matter. There is no scientific
evidence to support such ideas. The latest weight training studies done on
teens showed only positive effects.

Not only will proper weight training not stunt growth, it allows
teens to grow up with stronger muscles and bones, along with a
healthy lifestyle.

Studies have shown that more compression is generated by jumping, as much as 7 times the weight the body. So basically, if your teen is not squating over 650 pounds, greater stress is created my daily activities, such as basketball.

For an example, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger started lifting very
young in his teens, and he went past the 6' mark.

Even the real life "HULK" Lou Ferrigno started lifting at 14 years old... now look at him...

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/ate/growt...sm/203142.html
http://www.drgreene.com/21_418.html

You cant take ____________ for supplement... its bad for you!

Goddamit with this parents and they thinking that every supplement tub is steroids... that total crap and needs to be resolved

Here is the Dictionary definition for supplement:
Something added to complete a thing, make up for a deficiency, or extend or strengthen the whole.

When we enter the world of bodybuilding, we need to be more "complete", we are "deficient" in certian nutrients. Thats why we need to take supplements, such as protein, multivitamin, and certian other things.

Protein Supplementation

In easy way to put it, WE NEED PROTEIN! Everyone does! Everyone consumes protein daily!

Other than water, protein is the most abundant nutrient in the body. Protein is a chain of linked units called amino acids. The protein you eat is split apart into these amino acids, absorbed in the small intestines, then rearranged and put back in the blood stream. These new arranged proteins carry out specific functions to maintain life. All living tissues are made up of twenty-two essential and nonessential amino acids. Essential amino acids are not made by the body and must be supplied through diet. There are nine essential amino acids: Histidine, Isoleucine, Leucine, Lysine, Methionine, Phenylalanine, Threonine, Tryptophan, and Valine. The remaining thirteen are nonessential amino acids produced in the body and not essential to consume through the diet.

As we finish out workout, our body needs to repair out muscles, therefore, thats what the protein is about.

we can take either protein as a supplement (Protein Powder) or in food (Chicken, tuna, cheese etc.)


Multivitamin Supplementation


Cmon, there is really no sense in discussing this. Our body has ALWAYS needed the vitamins, minerals, nutrients, etc that has always needed! But for us that are now training, it is more crucial to have proper levels of every nutrient and vitamin in our body.


Creatine Supplementation

Ok, here is where parents start to get difficult. Such myths as "creatine will damage your liver". The truth is, this myth is a total FAKE , here, let me put some studies that were made.

There are claims that creatine users are more susceptible to cramps, muscle spasms, and even pulled muscles. However, in a three-year study designed to find out whether these creatine side effects really do exist, creatine had no effect on the incidence of injury or cramping in a group of football players.
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Research published in the journal Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise shows similar results [3]. In a group of 26 athletes using creatine for up to four years, there was no difference in the reported incidence of muscle cramp or injury compared with athletes not using creatine.
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Twenty-three members of an NCAA Division II American football team were divided into a creatine group and a control group who took no supplements.

Subjects in the creatine group averaged 14 grams of creatine a day for three years. However, the researchers could find no detrimental effects on either kidney or liver function.

full page: http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/...tinesafety.htm

Creatine supplementation has been proven to be safe when controled , it even has some good side effects, such as lowering significantly the "bad" cholesterol. Side effects when supplementing with creatine are very rare, which include cramping and Diarrhea, but again, are very rare.

Creatine for us people begining to train, will aid us in our strenght. Thats all.... no other adverse effect. For some it may work wonders, and for some it will not work, that depends on each person.

creatine is not "necessary" when you start... so dont mind asking when starting.





Hope this helps to all of you trying to convince your parents that there is nothing wrong about bodybuilding and supplements.

I only covered supplements for "noobs". But anyway the best supplement they'll ever find is food.


Remember kids, be patients with your parents. Understand them, they are looking for your safety and are concerned about you. Make them understand that there is nothing wrong about bodybuilding and that it will make you no harm at all. Convince them that it will help you in whatever your goal is (socially, personal, health etc.) and that nothing wrong will happen.
Work them slowly, do not rush things, be PATIENT.


happy lifting!

feel free to comment anything... this thread is to inform


more links:


http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshel...ealth_Benefits
http://www.raysahelian.com/creatine.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract


links to articles you can print out to your parents:

Creatine:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/likness2.htm
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dimaggio2.htm
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/animalpak22.htm

Protein:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/berardi80.htm <----this will take care


http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/couillard2.htm basically resumed
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Old 02-09-2006, 08:15 PM   #2
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yeah i had this problem with my parents untill i got a job and bought whey and stuff on my own...good information. I'd just like to add that it is the ignorant people out there in the world that make it tougher for people like us. One uneducated 13 year old kid gets a hold of creatine, takes massive amounts for extended periods of time, while dehydrated from sports...and he gets a damaged liver. Heck if he was abusing his body, they blame creatine, and people who use it...*done ranting*
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Old 02-09-2006, 08:16 PM   #3
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I had this argument with my parents about the supplements. But I did tell them to screw themselves and to stop making rediculous accusations against something that is clearly benificial to you. Then I told them, when you guys put hours and hours of research into the subject and find some good, reliable, non biased information then you can come talk to me but until then I don't give a **** how much you are against this I'm still going to do it.

They really have a hard time arguing against me because I'm usually right because I do actually do my research and they don't.

My favorite argument - I'm your ****ing child meaning I'm basically a spitting image of you 2 so how the hell can you guys be so stupid on something so simple and I'm the one who ends up right and I'm the one who spends hours doing research. Where did I go right and you go wrong?

They get pretty upset and just leave me alone until they realize I am right.

Yea I'm pretty harsh with my parents but its really the only way to get through their think skulls.
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Old 02-09-2006, 09:34 PM   #8
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LOL! this thread was inspired by my thread!


Haha, living legend

i dont really remember if it was you... but yeah the title was pretty similar...

im just trying to help out.
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yeh I do remember a thread similar to this, well if I have any problems with ym parents... which shouldnbt happen, I'll be sure to come here

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yeah um hi...why do you think we are all here...its because we already lift weights so this has no relevence here

hopefully n ones parents would ever not support their children

my mom and dad totally support me and love how it leads me to a healthier lifestyle
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yeah um hi...why do you think we are all here...its because we already lift weights so this has no relevence here
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yeah, my mom wont let me use creatine. says its hard on the kidneys. although, its only bad for them if you HAVE A KIDNEY PROBLEM. but what mom doesnt know, wont hurt her i buy it my self and just take it in my room lol. so she thinks all my gains are from just protein lol.
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yeh i had the same problem, my mum knew what creatine/protein shakes are, but she wasnt too sure on me taking protein shakes, only 1/2 a week after the gym it seemed. my step dad thought it was no good for me, he wouldnt even smell it, and said a cereal bar was better for me lmao
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I gonna print off this article and stick on my parents' bedroom mirror. Then I gonna take all my supps out of my closet and stick in the kitchen where they belong. This is a brilliant thread.
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