Outraged Muslims! Oh My! Boortz

[Power-Quest]

http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html

We wake up this morning to see video on CNN showing rampaging Muslims around the world. In Europe, the Middle East, the Pacific Rim ... Muslim Mobs spreading mayhem. It seems that these mighty mad Muslims are rioting and firing their ever-present AK-47s into the air because of cartoons. Yup ... this latest epidemic of Muslim outrage comes to us because some newspapers in Norway and Denmark published some cartoons depicting Mohammed. In fact ... here is one of my favorites!

Admit it, this turban/bomb thing could be the next big fashion hit on the Muslim street!

Muslim outrage huh. OK ... let's do a little historical review. Just some lowlights:

Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.

Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.

A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.

Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.

Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage

Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.

Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.

Dead children. Dead tourists. Dead teachers. Dead doctors and nurses. Death, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of Muslims .. no Muslim outrage ... but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban and all hell breaks loose.

Come on, is this really about cartoons? They're rampaging and burning flags. They're looking for Europeans to kidnap. They're threatening innkeepers and generally raising holy Muslim hell not because of any outrage over a cartoon. They're outraged because it is part of the Islamic jihadist culture to be outraged. You don't really need a reason. You just need an excuse. Wandering around, destroying property, murdering children, firing guns into the air and feigning outrage over the slightest perceived insult is to a jihadist what tailgating is to a Steeler's fan.

I know and understand that these bloodthirsty murderers do not represent the majority of the world's Muslims. When, though, do they become outraged? When do they take to the streets to express their outrage at the radicals who are making their religion the object of worldwide hatred and ridicule? Islamic writer Salman Rushdie wrote of these silent Muslims in a New York Times article three years ago. "As their ancient, deeply civilized culture of love, art and philosophical reflection is hijacked by paranoiacs, racists, liars, male supremacists, tyrants, fanatics and violence junkies, why are they not screaming?"

Indeed. Why not?

[SYRIANKID]

Muslims are not responsible for what people ascribing to the religion do. So just like ANY OTHER group, you won't see a riot every time SOMEONE in that group does something wrong.

However, insult the religion itself, which is a direct assault against every adherant, and you get boycotts and demonstrations.

Nice article, its logic was refuted in 2 sentences.

[PissingQuietly]

Muslims are not responsible for what people ascribing to the religion do

Yes they are.

[SYRIANKID]

Originally Posted by PissingQuietly

Yes they are.

Then you are responsible for the actions of every American, or whatever race you belong to, and whatever beliefs you hold.

You better make a sign and go demonstrate, you have thousands of crimes on your hands.

[mlc82]

Originally Posted by SYRIANKID

Muslims are not responsible for what people ascribing to the religion do. So just like ANY OTHER group, you won't see a riot every time SOMEONE in that group does something wrong.

However, insult the religion itself, which is a direct assault against every adherant, and you get boycotts and demonstrations.

Nice article, its logic was refuted in 2 sentences.

Wouldn't committing horrible acts in the name of the religion itself consititute a far worse insult to what the religion is supposed to stand for than anything else you could imagine?

[SYRIANKID]

Originally Posted by mlc82

Wouldn't committing horrible acts in the name of the religion itself consititute a far worse insult to what the religion is supposed to stand for than anything else you could imagine?

When people act contrary to a religion, you stop them if you can, and refute them ideologically. They are being sinful, and if they commit crimes, tried for them. But that is between them and God and the authorities. It doesn't personally affect every single person, and all you can do as an individual is explain WHY what they did was wrong, and inform the authorities.

When you insult God and His Prophets (pbut), that also has a legal penalty, and you have assaulted ALL believers.

[mlc82]

Originally Posted by SYRIANKID

When people act contrary to a religion, you stop them if you can, and refute them ideologically. They are being sinful, and if they commit crimes, tried for them. But that is between them and God and the authorities. It doesn't personally affect every single person, and all you can do as an individual is explain WHY what they did was wrong, and inform the authorities.

When you insult God and His Prophets (pbut), that also has a legal penalty, and you have assaulted ALL believers.

But by acting contrary to a religion in such a way is guaranteeing that more people around the world, after seeing these acts, will come to despise that religion. Wouldn't that be an insult to the god/prophets of said religion just the same, and even worse since it's committed by people who are supposed to be followers and bringing others into the religion (excuse the run-on there)?

[bulletproofsoul]

Originally Posted by SYRIANKID

When people act contrary to a religion, you stop them if you can, and refute them ideologically. They are being sinful, and if they commit crimes, tried for them. But that is between them and God and the authorities. It doesn't personally affect every single person, and all you can do as an individual is explain WHY what they did was wrong, and inform the authorities.

When you insult God and His Prophets (pbut), that also has a legal penalty, and you have assaulted ALL believers.

But isn't the murder of innocents also an insult to god and his prophets, SYRIANKID? Isn't doing so in the name of Islam an assault on all believers?

[SYRIANKID]

Originally Posted by bulletproofsoul

But isn't the murder of innocents also an insult to god and his prophets, SYRIANKID?

It is sinful, and disobedient, and anyone who willingly trangresses against God is belittling God's role with respect to him. And if that involves a public sin and crime, that is also punished.

But it is not an overt "insult" as that has its own separate penalty, and is the direct disparagement of God and the Prophets (pbut) themselves.

[coontang]

Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.

I almost called bull**** on this one, because I had never heard of this occurrence, but google to the rescue:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1874471.stm

Jesus Christ that's focked up.

[hotsauc3]

Well the people commiting these atrocities claim loyalty to the muslim way. While the majority of muslims support them. Any denial of that is just that, denial. Would Mohamed really be happy seeing his people running through the street like wild dogs. Turn on CNN and you'll see little muslim KIDS driving themselves into retarded frenzies and acting like animals. And I'm sure Mohamed wouldn't be happy with the corrupt clerics manipulating the ignorant people into states like this either. One logical muslim can't justify 99.9999 percent of the loonies. Shouldn't Mohamed be above a petty paper and ink cartoon? RANT RANT RANT SPAM SPAM SPAM.. K I'm done.

[SYRIANKID]

Originally Posted by mlc82

But by acting contrary to a religion in such a way is guaranteeing that more people around the world, after seeing these acts, will come to despise that religion.

This is not true, as guidance is in the control of God. MANY people have embraced Islam since 9/11 because if anything, they have sought out the Truth more fervently.

Wouldn't that be an insult to the god/prophets of said religion just the same, and even worse since it's committed by people who are supposed to be followers and bringing others into the religion (excuse the run-on there)?

No, because that is premised on the idea that anyone can actually prevent others from receiving guidance, which is not true. Being a poor example IS sinful and IS punishable, but it is not a direct slander/insult against God and His Prophets (pbut).

However, to falsely say "Islam teaches this or that" and to lie about that, does reach the bounds of slander.

[MushMouth]

What the violent protestors are protesting is not the content of the cartoons, but the freedom of expression itself.

A democracy cannot survive long without freedom of expression, the freedom to argue, to dissent, even to insult and offend. It is a freedom sorely lacking in the Islamic world, and without it Islam will remain unassailed in its dogmatic, fanatical, medieval fortress; ossified, totalitarian and intolerant. Without this fundamental freedom, Islam will continue to stifle thought, human rights, individuality; originality and truth. - Iban Warraq, Democracy in a Cartoon

That is an intolerable demand. As America's greatest orator, R.G. Ingersoll put it:

And how any human being ever has had the impudence to speak against the right to speak, is beyond the power of my imagination. Here is a man who speaks -- who exercises a right that he, by his speech, denies. Can liberty go further than that? Is there any toleration possible beyond the liberty to speak against liberty -- the real believer in free speech allowing others to speak against the right to speak? Is there any limitation beyond that?

So, whoever has spoken against the right to speak has admitted that he violated his own doctrine. No man can open his mouth against the freedom of speech without denying every argument he may put forward. Why? He is exercising the right that he denies. How did he get it? Suppose there is one man on an island. You will all admit now that he would have the right to do his own thinking. You will all admit that he has the right to express his thought. Now, will somebody tell me how many men would have to emigrate to that island before the original settler would lose his right to think and his right to express himself?

[bulletproofsoul]

Originally Posted by SYRIANKID

It is sinful, and disobedient, and anyone who willingly trangresses against God is belittling God's role with respect to him. And if that involves a public sin and crime, that is also punished.

But it is not an overt "insult" as that has its own separate penalty, and is the direct disparagement of God and the Prophets (pbut) themselves.

It would seem to me that involking Allah's name whilst murdering innocent women and children would be quite a direct insult to god.

[Chuteboxe]

Originally Posted by SYRIANKID

Muslims are not responsible for what people ascribing to the religion do. So just like ANY OTHER group, you won't see a riot every time SOMEONE in that group does something wrong.

However, insult the religion itself, which is a direct assault against every adherant, and you get boycotts and demonstrations.

Nice article, its logic was refuted in 2 sentences.

Syrian kid can......."refute" any logic, including 1+1=2! Keep...."refuting" away

[collector]

Add to SK's posts the fact that there aren't much media attention to when an Islamic leader speaks out about specific violent acts.

Such as after the Saudi school fire where the girls were left to burned there was an outcry by Saudi officials and the incident was reviewed.

That is the one example I am really familiar with. And constantly on Arabic News Channels muslim leaders do condemn almost all violent acts that are committed almost immediately.

These are just never brought to the attention of the American media.

[bulletproofsoul]

Originally Posted by collector

Add to SK's posts the fact that there aren't much media attention to when an Islamic leader speaks out about specific violent acts.

Such as after the Saudi school fire where the girls were left to burned there was an outcry by Saudi officials and the incident was reviewed.

That is the one example I am really familiar with. And constantly on Arabic News Channels muslim leaders do condemn almost all violent acts that are committed almost immediately.

These are just never brought to the attention of the American media.

I agree that this is true. I was reading earlier today about riots in Beirut where Muslim clerics were telling people not to stone a Maronite Catholic Church. It was about one line and in print. Never in TV news media are such things reported...at least that I have seen. The only exception was when Al-Zarqawi terror bombed Muslims in Amman Jordan was there outrage amongst Muslims depicted to any extent that I have seen.

[Weightaholic]

Originally Posted by coontang

I almost called bull**** on this one, because I had never heard of this occurrence, but google to the rescue:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1874471.stm

Jesus Christ that's ****ed up.

That's the sort of complete retardedness inherent in the "perfect" Islamic state that SyrianKid goes on about. In any state that is run by purely religious precepts actually. Everything is subservient to God's rules - including common sense....

[Canadian Nanook]

Originally Posted by SYRIANKID

Then you are responsible for the actions of every American, or whatever race you belong to, and whatever beliefs you hold.

You better make a sign and go demonstrate, you have thousands of crimes on your hands.

Isn't this a double standard though. All israelis are responsible for what a few did 50 years ago. you can't have it both ways. Children are being killed by terrorists because their parents choose to live in Israel. School kids are being shot at by snipers because 50 years ago the british screwed the palestinians. where is the disconnect?

[*ShaGGs*]

I laughed so hard today when i found out one of the rioters accidently set himself on fire and fell out of a 3story building at the embasy lol. What a freaking moron cant even committ his little jihad correctly.

[SYRIANKID]

Originally Posted by Canadian Nanook

Isn't this a double standard though. All israelis are responsible for what a few did 50 years ago. you can't have it both ways. Children are being killed by terrorists because their parents choose to live in Israel. School kids are being shot at by snipers because 50 years ago the british screwed the palestinians. where is the disconnect?

I really don't know what you're talking about, you might be continuing a conversation with someone else...with me.

I don't say "all Israels" are responsible for what their ancestors did 50 years ago.

I definitely don't say that children should be killed for what their parents do.

I don't even see why you are quoting me at all.

[BlueBayou]

Originally Posted by coontang

I almost called bull**** on this one, because I had never heard of this occurrence, but google to the rescue:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1874471.stm

Jesus Christ that's focked up.

from that article:

The religious police are widely feared in Saudi Arabia. They roam the streets enforcing dress codes and sex segregation, and ensuring prayers are performed on time.

Those who refuse to obey their orders are often beaten and sometimes put in jail.

Thats fup duck. Forcing religion on individuals through punitive action is not religion, its a dangerous cult. Are the other Muslim countries this bad?

[K_Ching]

Originally Posted by SYRIANKID

Muslims are not responsible for what people ascribing to the religion do. So just like ANY OTHER group, you won't see a riot every time SOMEONE in that group does something wrong.

However, insult the religion itself, which is a direct assault against every adherant, and you get boycotts and demonstrations.

Nice article, its logic was refuted in 2 sentences.

Okay, then explain this. How come Denmark, as a country and as a people, are being held responsible for what a danish newspaper did?

It's not like the danish people have backed up the drawings. No one here has.

[Skwidward]

Originally Posted by SYRIANKID

Muslims are not responsible for what people ascribing to the religion do. So just like ANY OTHER group, you won't see a riot every time SOMEONE in that group does something wrong.

However, insult the religion itself, .

However, insult the religion itself and any European alive is fair game?

[seven11]

Originally Posted by Power-Quest

http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html

We wake up this morning to see video on CNN showing rampaging Muslims around the world. In Europe, the Middle East, the Pacific Rim ... Muslim Mobs spreading mayhem. It seems that these mighty mad Muslims are rioting and firing their ever-present AK-47s into the air because of cartoons. Yup ... this latest epidemic of Muslim outrage comes to us because some newspapers in Norway and Denmark published some cartoons depicting Mohammed. In fact ... here is one of my favorites!

Admit it, this turban/bomb thing could be the next big fashion hit on the Muslim street!

Muslim outrage huh. OK ... let's do a little historical review. Just some lowlights:

Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage.

Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.

A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.

Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.

Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage

Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.

Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.

Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.

Dead children. Dead tourists. Dead teachers. Dead doctors and nurses. Death, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of Muslims .. no Muslim outrage ... but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban and all hell breaks loose.

Come on, is this really about cartoons? They're rampaging and burning flags. They're looking for Europeans to kidnap. They're threatening innkeepers and generally raising holy Muslim hell not because of any outrage over a cartoon. They're outraged because it is part of the Islamic jihadist culture to be outraged. You don't really need a reason. You just need an excuse. Wandering around, destroying property, murdering children, firing guns into the air and feigning outrage over the slightest perceived insult is to a jihadist what tailgating is to a Steeler's fan.

I know and understand that these bloodthirsty murderers do not represent the majority of the world's Muslims. When, though, do they become outraged? When do they take to the streets to express their outrage at the radicals who are making their religion the object of worldwide hatred and ridicule? Islamic writer Salman Rushdie wrote of these silent Muslims in a New York Times article three years ago. "As their ancient, deeply civilized culture of love, art and philosophical reflection is hijacked by paranoiacs, racists, liars, male supremacists, tyrants, fanatics and violence junkies, why are they not screaming?"

Indeed. Why not?

and the us does this.....http://www.youtube.com/w/IRAQ-WAR-ra...cE&search=iraq

and... no outrage.

[Power-Quest]

Originally Posted by SYRIANKID

However, insult the religion itself, which is a direct assault against every adherant, and you get boycotts and demonstrations.

People and religions and just about everything else gets insulted sometime or another , in my eyes the crime doesn't fit the punishment.

I also recall the muslims didn't know which building to set a fire so they destroyed every building on the street.

[Power-Quest]

Originally Posted by SYRIANKID

Then you are responsible for the actions of every American, or whatever race you belong to, and whatever beliefs you hold.

You better make a sign and go demonstrate, you have thousands of crimes on your hands.

A few bad apples spoils the bunch , this in my opinion is what is happening and muslims like it or not , are getting a bad reputation because of it.

[Power-Quest]

Originally Posted by bulletproofsoul

But isn't the murder of innocents also an insult to god and his prophets, SYRIANKID? Isn't doing so in the name of Islam an assault on all believers?

How about when they murder fellow muslims with there random violence.

[Power-Quest]

Monday -- February 6, 2006

Boortz http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html



The publication of these cartoons of Mohammed are not the reason for the rioting and violence. They are the excuse. Islamic protesters burned down the Danish consulate in Beirut in response to those cartoons making fun of Islam. Riots are ongoing, cars are being overturned and at least one person is dead in Afghanistan. Pakistan is boycotting prescription drugs from companies based in countries where the cartoons were published.

This is absolutely insane. What we are witnessing is the ultimate conclusion to militant political correctness. Many leftists would excuse this behavior...because these Muslims are "offended." Know this: in the world of liberals, there is no greater crime known to man than offending Muslims. The more violent radical Islamists become the more the politically correct elements make excuses for them.

This religion is rapidly getting out of control. Muslims can murder 200 school children and their parents, shooting kids in the back, in Chechnya and the Muslim world hardly pauses a moment to notice. Let some draw a cartoon of their so-called "prophet" and they start burning embassies and looking for Europeans to kidnap or murder. The more our Western leaders make excuses for their behavior, the bolder they become. These Muslims torching embassies and rioting around the world are not what we might consider highly educated. They have little or no understanding of Western culture and the concept of freedom of the press is entirely beyond the grasp of most of them. They believe that anything printed in any newspaper constitutes the official opinion of that country's government.

These riots and demonstrations are not about those cartoons, they are about freedom. One protestor was seen carrying a sign that said Freedom go hell. To these Islamic jihadist criminals freedom is an enemy. A religion that says you must either convert, kill or enslave those who don't believe as you is not a religion that would embrace freedom. Whether the politically correct like it or not, this is a religion that is anathema to our way of life and the liberties we hold dear.

There was another sign being carried by these Islamic rioters. It said "Europe. Take some lessons from 9/11." I sure I don't have to explain the threat implicit in that sign. Actually, this is a good thing. I wish the Islamic radicals would wave more of those "Europe. Take some lessons from 9/11" signs. The train bombings in Spain and the subway bombings in London apparently weren't enough. Maybe these riots will convince the Euro-snobs that Islamic fanatics and their myrmidons pose as much a threat to them, perhaps more of a threat, as they do to the people of the United States.

Who knows ... maybe even some Americans will wake up. Democrats, for instance.

[Power-Quest]

Originally Posted by seven11

and the us does this.....http://www.youtube.com/w/IRAQ-WAR-ra...cE&search=iraq

and... no outrage.

Theres plenty of outrage just listen to the democrats of the US , listen to the UN , listen muslims around the world.