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What Women Want - by me
As a preface - You might want to skip this if you're predisposed to posting the Colin pics in long posts. With that said . . .
This is an article for men, by a man. Basically I'm tired of reading articles by women, talking about what they want from men. What do women want? Guess what - They don't even know! Judge a woman by her actions, not her words. There is a language you must one day learn, Womanese, but that is FAR too complicated for today's lesson, so you will find it safer to judge based on action. This article is consisted of only general guidelines, so remember that true self comes from within. Lines and facades only last so long, eventually she will find out who you are, and then you run into the whole "We're so different now" situation, so this is only a guideline - You MUST be yourself to be successful in the long run.
-Why does the nice guy finish last? Well thank you for asking. You see, at a subconscious level, women are looking for a MAN. What does this mean? Among other things it means confidence, independence, humor, and a sense of mystery. This is why the jerk does such a good job of attracting women. He lures them in with his overbearing sense of confidence (read: COCKY), his general indifference to whether or not she's coming home with him (independence), and this confuses the girl, as she's thinking, "Why doesn't he like me?!" (Mystery). However, the jerk will never last in the long run, as his cockiness will be a barrier to any prolonged relationship.
In essence, that is the head, and now for the tail of the coin. Why the nice guy gets nothing. Women thrive on a challenge. This is why you always hear them talking about trying to "reform" or "change" their mate. They see them as an obstacle to conquer. The nice guy is too easily conquered. The average nice guy tries to befriend the girl, wait around, and hope to eventually be "noticed" by her. WRONG! You must make your intentions clear from the beginning, once you are in the friends zone, there is no escape (as far as you're concerned. The friend zone IS possible to escape, but that's a much higher level than we're dealing with today, and is a LONG process that is often NOT worth it in the end).
Also, think of it this way - You're supplicating her every need at a friend level. Why would she need to have you as her boyfriend when she's getting everything she wants from a "friend." Women thrive on value, and as a supplicating friend, you cannot offer her anything new as a potential mate.
That is only an introduction to Nice Guy vs. Jerk, but let us move onto what makes a MAN.
Looks - Ok, your genetics are God-given. Nothing short of plastic surgery can change this. However, this is NOT stopping you from looking your best. I am not suggesting you go metrosexual, but merely be aware of the appearance that you project. Keep nails and hair neatly trimmed, wash your face, if you're a little overweight - go to the gym. Dress nicely, no sense in wearing dirty clothes. There is SO much you can do to improve your appearance without having to resort to cosmetic surgery. Looks are not the most important thing to a woman (Men thrive off of looks, women are emotion-based creatures), however this will be an important factor in creating a first impression. You may not be genetically programmed like Brad Pitt, but women are GREAT at noticing the details (IE: If you take care of yourself).
Confidence - So easily miscontrued as cockiness, however they are NOT the same. Confidence is merely the way that you carry yourself. Straighten your back, move a little more slowly, and become at ease with your surroundings. Don't be afraid to make eye contact, in fact, I implore you to keep eye contact when having a conversation. Eye contact is KEY to exuding confidence. A person who cannot maintain eye contact looks nervous, and untrusting.
Independence - Ever heard, "I just need some space!" Yeah, I thought so. Women want a man who has his own life, and does not try to make her the center of it. The most important thing I can stress here is that calling her work, cell, and then home in order to try to get into contact with her does NOT count as one call! She will see them as three separate attempts at contact, which reeks of desperation. Women were built with a desperation meter, and they can sense a needy man from MILES away. Also avoid calling on a daily basis. At the beginning, calls should be restricted to date offers (which should only be once every week or so), and even later you should take extreme caution in over-calling.
Humor - Damn, this one's simple. Lighten up a bit! I mentioned earlier that women are emotion-based creatures. I cannot stress this enough! Make them FEEL something (preferably something POSITIVE. Look into "Pavlov's Theory" for an example. It's called "conditioning" or "association," in which the dogs associated the ringing of the bell with food, much like positive emotions will become associated with YOU!).
Mystery - Women LOVE imagining about a guy, and trying to figure him out. Giving out too much in the beginning is like throwing down all of your cards at the beginning of a round of poker. That's it - Game over. I'm not advocating being the creep underneath the stairs, hiding in the shadows, I'm just saying that you need to leave a little trace of mystery in your conversations. Make her THINK about you.
And lastly as a general tip, at the beginning of the relationship if she's in a bad mood - Go away. I know the natural instinct is to comfort her, but believe me it'll cause more damage than good. I made a mention of "assocation" earlier. If you hang around while she is in a bad mood, she'll SUBCONSCIOUSLY associate those negative feelings with you. It's much better to just back away, come back later when she's in a better mood, and continue building positive rapport.
I think this'll do as an introduction to what women want. Read, study, learn, USE. Hopefully you've learned something today, or maybe this was only a refresher for you, either way hey don't look at me I'm no Don Juan or Cassanova - I just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Edit - One last thing, I can't even remember all of the people who've given me insight over the past few years, so thanks to guys at sosuave for all the information/guidance. This post is merely a representation of some of the high points I learned from you guys!
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05-23-2005, 09:28 PM
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awesome post!
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05-23-2005, 09:39 PM
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You are a genius.
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05-24-2005, 12:16 AM
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bump this **** is a good reminder.
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05-24-2005, 12:21 AM
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sounds very familiar.....
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Familar yes, but at least he is giving good, sound advice.
Great post my man.
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05-24-2005, 12:37 AM
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Thanks for the input guys. Like I mentioned, it is merely a recap of some of the things I've learned from the bros before me, so a lot of it comes from that, plus my personal input. I just think every now and then people should get back to the basics, instead of focusing too hard on the little stuff.
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05-24-2005, 01:15 AM
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What a load of crap!! It doesn't matter if your fat, wimpy, skinny, smelly, dress bad, cry, or look like a werewolf, as long as you have money. Money gets a woman's juices flowing, nothing else.
We need to get back to the caveman days when you just bonked a hot girl over the head with a club.
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05-24-2005, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ironman1964bc
What a load of crap!! It doesn't matter if your fat, wimpy, skinny, smelly, dress bad, cry, or look like a werewolf, as long as you have money. Money gets a woman's juices flowing, nothing else.
We need to get back to the caveman days when you just bonked a hot girl over the head with a club.
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meh... you obviously arent looking for the right women my friend
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05-24-2005, 09:22 AM
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Where was PIITB?
Other than that great post.
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05-24-2005, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ironman1964bc
What a load of crap!! It doesn't matter if your fat, wimpy, skinny, smelly, dress bad, cry, or look like a werewolf, as long as you have money. Money gets a woman's juices flowing, nothing else.
We need to get back to the caveman days when you just bonked a hot girl over the head with a club.
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Women don't really like these guys. I mean they'll **** 'em and they'll let them pay the bills but they'll **** other guys they are actually attracted to.
Women have two ideals in mates, the provider and the genetic resource each with a set of distinguishing characteristics. The guy with money is the provider.
The genetic resource guys are what women are sexually attracted to. They are the guys who get to PIITB and blow their load all over the girls face and the one the girl obsesses about. The rich husband gets it missionary twice a month. That's my experience.
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drstrangepimp, I don't think anyone has made this point in the threads before. Props.
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05-24-2005, 11:09 AM
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drstrangepimp, I don't think anyone has made this point in the threads before. Props.
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I love you man! In a purely platonic way of course.
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05-24-2005, 11:36 AM
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Women don't really like these guys. I mean they'll **** 'em and they'll let them pay the bills but they'll **** other guys they are actually attracted to.
Women have two ideals in mates, the provider and the genetic resource each with a set of distinguishing characteristics. The guy with money is the provider.
The genetic resource guys are what women are sexually attracted to. They are the guys who get to PIITB and blow their load all over the girls face and the one the girl obsesses about. The rich husband gets it missionary twice a month. That's my experience.
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It makes alot of sense but it got me thinking. I can't see a way to be happy in marriage without playing both parts. If you play one part someone else is going to come along to play the other. If you're more the genetic provider its reasonable to suggest that your wife might leave you for someone who can provide more. And if you play more the provider your wife is going to be ****ing other guys while you pay all the bills.
Is there really no way to have a successful relationship with a women?
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05-24-2005, 11:52 AM
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It makes alot of sense but it got me thinking. I can't see a way to be happy in marriage without playing both parts. If you play one part someone else is going to come along to play the other. If you're more the genetic provider its reasonable to suggest that your wife might leave you for someone who can provide more. And if you play more the provider your wife is going to be ****ing other guys while you pay all the bills.
Is there really no way to have a successful relationship with a women?
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Good point, there's no way to be the genetic provider in marriage. There's ways to spice it up a little with some cocky/funny or fun badboy type interaction, but the woman has all the power in that arrangement. It's not like when you are single and you can walk away at any time if your needs arent' being met. That's the ultimate trump card.
I think the only way marriage works well is when you have societies that really stress traditional values and where divorce is taboo. If you have a woman who is really strongly socially conditioned against aduletry, it helps.
Men have always cheated though. I really don't see much evidence that man was destined to have only one partner for life. It's a construct of society, not nature.
That's just my take on it. I don't really have any experience in that area so I can't say for certain.
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I believe friendship is very important in a relationship. If you are in a serious relationship and spend a lot of time with a person it would get pretty boring if you weren't friends.
I think that guy who are confident, funny, and good-looking can be nice guys. There is a huge difference between a pushover and nice guy....being a pushover a bad quality, while being nice is a good quality. My husband is very easy-going, reserved at times, and nice....but he is also very funny and confident.
I used to rely on first impressions, or judging people very quickly.....but I learned that if you give people time you will see their true qualities.
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Originally Posted by ironman1964bc
What a load of crap!! It doesn't matter if your fat, wimpy, skinny, smelly, dress bad, cry, or look like a werewolf, as long as you have money. Money gets a woman's juices flowing, nothing else.
We need to get back to the caveman days when you just bonked a hot girl over the head with a club.
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your so wrong, it does not.
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05-24-2005, 05:11 PM
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I can see how it attracts women, but that means I will NEVER find someone I can open up to, be intimate, even maybe cry to if its really that bad... Its like there is no such thing as real love when both people are emotioanlly attracted and would rather be boring, but together...
It seems like I should be an ******* and just **** all women and use them as toys. Very VERY sad...
I think this method only works for younger chicks when they want to get laid, but not when it comes to acctualy caring for someone.
I know so many couples who don't even have sex and are SO attached to each other...
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I can see how it attracts women, but that means I will NEVER find someone I can open up to, be intimate, even maybe cry to if its really that bad... Its like there is no such thing as real love when both people are emotioanlly attracted and would rather be boring, but together...
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It's funny. I used to long for that special somone I could open up to and be so afraid I would never meet them and now it just seems pretty gay to want to do that.
I think there's something that happens to a man when he starts realize that mating and pair bonding happens for biological reasons and for the survival of offspring and not some magic mystical bond between two people like all the hollywood psychodramas suggest.
I know that when I started getting things together and reframing my old hollywood inspired beliefs about love and seeing them in evolutionary and biological terms, I felt the need to be loved ALOT less.
I guess my point is it's hard to be happy when you NEED other people to make that happen. To me those kind of relationships where people need each other to function are a sign of mental illness.
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It's funny. I used to long for that special somone I could open up to and be so afraid I would never meet them and now it just seems pretty gay to want to do that.
I think there's something that happens to a man when he starts realize that mating and pair bonding happens for biological reasons and for the survival of offspring and not some magic mystical bond between two people like all the hollywood psychodramas suggest.
I know that when I started getting things together and reframing my old hollywood inspired beliefs about love and seeing them in evolutionary and biological terms, I felt the need to be loved ALOT less.
I guess my point is it's hard to be happy when you NEED other people to make that happen. To me those kind of relationships where people need each other to function are a sign of mental illness.
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I can defiantely see what you mean, BUT I believe that 2 people get intimate, and open up as a first stage and THEN they achieve TRUST in each other, and THEN have sex.
It also depends on your friends, and family. If you are loved by your family, and friends then the need in love from a sex-mate disappears.
Also, people often to tend to get emotionally attached AFTER sex.
I also believe that the whole "want to be loved" occurs much later in life because realizations of death, and loneliness, and etc.
ALSO, babies need CARE, and the best care can be provided when both parents have a LOVING atmosphere. Just think what would happen if all men screwed women, got them pregnant, and then left. Without a father, a male child would have big problems modeling after someone (I can tell by experience, I only had my mom, and nobody even taught me how to handle women. Usually fathers do that).
AND most mammals find ONE mate and stay with that mate until death. So, there is no way its an illness.
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I can defiantely see what you mean, BUT I believe that 2 people get intimate, and open up as a first stage and THEN they achieve TRUST in each other, and THEN have sex.
It also depends on your friends, and family. If you are loved by your family, and friends then the need in love from a sex-mate disappears.
Also, people often to tend to get emotionally attached AFTER sex.
I also believe that the whole "want to be loved" occurs much later in life because realizations of death, and loneliness, and etc.
ALSO, babies need CARE, and the best care can be provided when both parents have a LOVING atmosphere. Just think what would happen if all men screwed women, got them pregnant, and then left. Without a father, a male child would have big problems modeling after someone (I can tell by experience, I only had my mom, and nobody even taught me how to handle women. Usually fathers do that).
AND most mammals find ONE mate and stay with that mate until death. So, there is no way its an illness.
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I can't really relate to most of that on a personal level. I have no family left and a few friends. Most of the people I know are women I sleep with and coworkers.
I guess I don't get lonely because I accept the possibility that I will die alone and I have no problem with that.
Of course if you're going to have kids you need a wife but I don't really see any reason to have them.
Guess I just don't have much in the way of emotions. Oh well.
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I like the fact that you said it was only a guideline. Far too many men and women think they have the opposite sex all figured out, I'll concede that you could say something thats probably accurate about the majority but there are many people (albeit in the minority) who don't fit your stereotype.
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If you make six figures or probably at least $80k in the Midwest, there's always some girls at your disposal. ironman1964bc is right. Money isn't everything to women but if you pull in serious cash, there will always be some and most will be hot.
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No. Most screw the alpha male so there's always one consistent partner but monogamy is extremely rare, even with humans (note: infidelity rates).
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Guess I just don't have much in the way of emotions. Oh well.
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Its just a matter of priorities. I've never been an emotional guy, even when being a mangina. The only reason I acted like a he-pussy was because I thought it was socially acceptable, not because it was how I felt. I've never been emotional when I was 5, 10, 15, or 20. I guess thats how I am and now see no need to change. When I was 15, I thought there was something wrong with me.
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I can't really relate to most of that on a personal level. I have no family left and a few friends. Most of the people I know are women I sleep with and coworkers.
I guess I don't get lonely because I accept the possibility that I will die alone and I have no problem with that.
Of course if you're going to have kids you need a wife but I don't really see any reason to have them.
Guess I just don't have much in the way of emotions. Oh well.
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Think about this, if we all stop having kids then the reign of men will stop. I know if a woman does not have a child by the time she is 30, she gets mentally ill and literaly craves for a child. So, not having emotions would be more of a disorder then having them.
But then on the other hand, if you look at mammals, males only provide food and also compete with their children.
I don't know, I think that nobody should feel emotional about someone UNTIL they get to know them really well and form a kind of bond. However, it feels completely the other way.
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My answer.....
-Money
-Attention
-Money
-Security (related to money)
-To control the life of whoever theyre dating/married to
-A Bull**** Hollywood Romantic Comedy Life, where everything is swell and you live happily ever after (despite the fact that she will get inthe way of exactly that)
-Even more money
-To turn their men into their image of who that man should be
-Jewelry (See attention)
-More attention
BTW, 90% of my friends are women as well.
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I am not saying that money is the only thing that attracts women, but it is a very important quality that they look for in a man. A woman still loves to be cared for, have things bought for her, and be able to live the rich lifestyle with a big house, a couple of SUV's, and 2 trips a year to the Bahamas.
A woman is also sexually attracted to the bad boy too. That is why most wives of rich men have a few boy toys on the side to keep them entertained. They get their needs satisfied through both kinds of men. As a man, if you don't have all these qualities in one package, then there is no way in hell a western women is going to stay devoted to you, no matter how many abs you have showing. You may get a piece of her but you will always have to share her with another man (or men) who have the qualities that you don't possess.
A friend of mine is a good example. He got married about 10 years ago to a decent looking woman with an average build. They ended up having 2 kids together and his wife balooned up to 285lbs. She stayed at this weight for over 5 years until he started hitting the weights again. You see, he was always very lean and cut but he had never lifted seriously. He decided to get back into it and his wife joined him. A couple of years later (2003) his wife lost a total of 160lbs and she got very cut and muscular. He also got alot bigger and more cut. In fact, they both ran a gym together for awhile. Last year, out of the blue, she asks for a divorce. They have since split up and he quit working at the gym. She runs it herself now. He was totally shocked at why she would do this. He never saw it coming.
Now that she looks great and is a free woman, you would think she would start dating some good looking guys who workout. WRONG!! She has been meeting guys on the internet and visiting them. One guy is middle aged from Florida and he is heavy into real estate. He has 2 houses and 2 Hummers which she loves to drive around when she visits him once a month. Another guy is from Arizona and he too is a rich man. Neither man is into fitness at all. The ironic thing is my friend is about ready to enter his first contest. He really looks good and is cut to the bone. However, he is still having a hard time getting over his ex. He cannot understand why the minute she started looking good that she would want to leave him.
This just goes to show that when a woman really feels good and secure about herself, the first thing she looks for is not love or sex but MONEY!!!
If you have the body and looks, she may get wet, but the panties don't come off until she sees the green.
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Think about this, if we all stop having kids then the reign of men will stop. I know if a woman does not have a child by the time she is 30, she gets mentally ill and literaly craves for a child. So, not having emotions would be more of a disorder then having them.
But then on the other hand, if you look at mammals, males only provide food and also compete with their children.
I don't know, I think that nobody should feel emotional about someone UNTIL they get to know them really well and form a kind of bond. However, it feels completely the other way.
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All I can say is I'm happier now than then. I literally have not a care in the world because I live like an animal. I only care about my own self interest, not about making other happy.
If I got married or got permanently attached to a female and a couple screaming little angels I would have problems just like any other guy and that's not on my agenda. I avoid trouble unless it's actually fun.
I'm just saying it's not necessary to be in that chemical state called love to enjoy life. I've been in love before so I'm capable of that but it's not worth the hassle and I don't miss it. It also takes up too much of my valuable time. All the kids in the world can drop dead tomorrow for all I care and women can stop liking me. I'll just keep on truckin' and enjoying the ride. Take up Aikido and meditate maybe.
What do you need an emotional bond for? To me it seems rather pointless.
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Originally Posted by ironman1964bc
I am not saying that money is the only thing that attracts women, but it is a very important quality that they look for in a man. A woman still loves to be cared for, have things bought for her, and be able to live the rich lifestyle with a big house, a couple of SUV's, and 2 trips a year to the Bahamas.
A woman is also sexually attracted to the bad boy too. That is why most wives of rich men have a few boy toys on the side to keep them entertained. They get their needs satisfied through both kinds of men. As a man, if you don't have all these qualities in one package, then there is no way in hell a western women is going to stay devoted to you, no matter how many abs you have showing. You may get a piece of her but you will always have to share her with another man (or men) who have the qualities that you don't possess.
A friend of mine is a good example. He got married about 10 years ago to a decent looking woman with an average build. They ended up having 2 kids together and his wife balooned up to 285lbs. She stayed at this weight for over 5 years until he started hitting the weights again. You see, he was always very lean and cut but he had never lifted seriously. He decided to get back into it and his wife joined him. A couple of years later (2003) his wife lost a total of 160lbs and she got very cut and muscular. He also got alot bigger and more cut. In fact, they both ran a gym together for awhile. Last year, out of the blue, she asks for a divorce. They have since split up and he quit working at the gym. She runs it herself now. He was totally shocked at why she would do this. He never saw it coming.
Now that she looks great and is a free woman, you would think she would start dating some good looking guys who workout. WRONG!! She has been meeting guys on the internet and visiting them. One guy is middle aged from Florida and he is heavy into real estate. He has 2 houses and 2 Hummers which she loves to drive around when she visits him once a month. Another guy is from Arizona and he too is a rich man. Neither man is into fitness at all. The ironic thing is my friend is about ready to enter his first contest. He really looks good and is cut to the bone. However, he is still having a hard time getting over his ex. He cannot understand why the minute she started looking good that she would want to leave him.
This just goes to show that when a woman really feels good and secure about herself, the first thing she looks for is not love or sex but MONEY!!!
If you have the body and looks, she may get wet, but the panties don't come off until she sees the green.
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that story is very frustrating, what a worthless piece of **** she is
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05-25-2005, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ironman1964bc
I am not saying that money is the only thing that attracts women, but it is a very important quality that they look for in a man. A woman still loves to be cared for, have things bought for her, and be able to live the rich lifestyle with a big house, a couple of SUV's, and 2 trips a year to the Bahamas.
A woman is also sexually attracted to the bad boy too. That is why most wives of rich men have a few boy toys on the side to keep them entertained. They get their needs satisfied through both kinds of men. As a man, if you don't have all these qualities in one package, then there is no way in hell a western women is going to stay devoted to you, no matter how many abs you have showing. You may get a piece of her but you will always have to share her with another man (or men) who have the qualities that you don't possess.
A friend of mine is a good example. He got married about 10 years ago to a decent looking woman with an average build. They ended up having 2 kids together and his wife balooned up to 285lbs. She stayed at this weight for over 5 years until he started hitting the weights again. You see, he was always very lean and cut but he had never lifted seriously. He decided to get back into it and his wife joined him. A couple of years later (2003) his wife lost a total of 160lbs and she got very cut and muscular. He also got alot bigger and more cut. In fact, they both ran a gym together for awhile. Last year, out of the blue, she asks for a divorce. They have since split up and he quit working at the gym. She runs it herself now. He was totally shocked at why she would do this. He never saw it coming.
Now that she looks great and is a free woman, you would think she would start dating some good looking guys who workout. WRONG!! She has been meeting guys on the internet and visiting them. One guy is middle aged from Florida and he is heavy into real estate. He has 2 houses and 2 Hummers which she loves to drive around when she visits him once a month. Another guy is from Arizona and he too is a rich man. Neither man is into fitness at all. The ironic thing is my friend is about ready to enter his first contest. He really looks good and is cut to the bone. However, he is still having a hard time getting over his ex. He cannot understand why the minute she started looking good that she would want to leave him.
This just goes to show that when a woman really feels good and secure about herself, the first thing she looks for is not love or sex but MONEY!!!
If you have the body and looks, she may get wet, but the panties don't come off until she sees the green.
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If that were true I'd be a virgin. I just got to a little above average income recently. Plenty of broke ass college kids and 15 year olds getting laid too. Money is part of it but there's a piece you are missing there.
It's about power and status. Men with money have it automatically. If you can't convey power with your personna then yeah, you better have a HUGE pile of cash to make up for it if you want young hotties.
Thing is alot of rich guys are BORING personality wise and eventually the girl will leave or screw around no matter how much money he has. Frankly I think your friend caught a break. Too bad he probably had to pay her money still.
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05-26-2005, 03:37 AM
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In the Cutting
Join Date: May 2005
Age: 26
Stats: 5'9", 178 lbs
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Originally Posted by Fender85
Looks - Ok, your genetics are God-given. but merely be aware of the appearance that you project. Keep nails and hair neatly trimmed, wash your face, if you're a little overweight - go to the gym. Dress nicely, no sense in wearing dirty clothes. There is SO much you can do to improve your appearance without having to resort to cosmetic surgery. Looks are not the most important thing to a woman (Men thrive off of looks, women are emotion-based creatures), however this will be an important factor in creating a first impression. You may not be genetically programmed like Brad Pitt, but women are GREAT at noticing the details (IE: If you take care of yourself).
Confidence - So easily miscontrued as cockiness, however they are NOT the same. Confidence is merely the way that you carry yourself. Straighten your back, move a little more slowly, and become at ease with your surroundings. Don't be afraid to make eye contact, in fact, I implore you to keep eye contact when having a conversation. Eye contact is KEY to exuding confidence. A person who cannot maintain eye contact looks nervous, and untrusting.
Humor - Damn, this one's simple. Lighten up a bit! I mentioned earlier that women are emotion-based creatures. I cannot stress this enough! Make them FEEL something (preferably something POSITIVE. Look into "Pavlov's Theory" for an example. It's called "conditioning" or "association," in which the dogs associated the ringing of the bell with food, much like positive emotions will become associated with YOU!).
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errrrrrrrrrr.... that 's all i found in ur post that hold any resemblance to "fact"..... and guys don't go following him blindly... or there will be a big bunch of u , sorry , sad and WOMAN-LESS!
just thought i'd let u know
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