Alpha Females AKA Female Players

[sword-]

As you guys probably know I'm a 21 year old PUA . What you guys also might know that I made out with this hot 26 year old a couple of weeks...she didn't call me back. So I've been seeing her across campus sometimes, I've ignored her or sometimes had small talk and left, no big deal. Tonight was my friend's 22nd birthday (another girl i'm gaming right now ) and we went to 3 places around in the college town of Blacksburg, VA (Virginia Tech). After a little pregaming with some high school friends, I met up with the girl and some of her friends...met up with some of my friends as well and then BOOM! I saw the 26 year old girl again, Jamie. She caught a glance of me a few times, almost nervous or suprised that I was at the same venue as her. I ignored her and went on with my business. I talked to a few girls and had some fun, I really wasn't trying to pick up any girls, or my skill was affected because I was drinking a lot with my friends.

Later on I went to another venue, played some air hockey with a few friends then left to a dance club...BOOM! I saw Jamie again. THIS time I approached her while she was dancing with another girl, she instantly clinged on to me 'Its good to see you' she said. We danced some and had a little small talk. I later talked about seeing her again or hooking up later that night, I don't remmeber the details of that conversation. She told me she was with some coworkers and couldn't hang with me. She also mentioned that she was a commitment-phobe. She perhaps told me that because she didn't call me back, but she told me a story about her purse being missing and a guy stole her phone. Anyways....concerning her and I she told me to leave the conversation alone.

I decided to wait outside for a few friends..some of my friends went another way and waited for me. I saw Jamie and asked her if I could tell her something briefly:

Me: Look, I think you played me before.
Jamie: I didn't play you.
Me: Anyways, look...I want to see you again, but that is up to you and I don't want to waste time, do you want to talk to me again or not? Yes or No?
Jamie: I don't know. Can I decide next time we see each other?
Me: Whatever...you should make up your mind now

<I ended the conversation in a brief manner telling her I had to go..or it was mutual>

At one point she was leaving and I attempted to kiss her. She didn't respond , weirdly enough. I kissed her on the cheek and said "you don't want to kiss?" she flat out told me 'no'. I laughed and then left.

Since I am certain I will see this girl again, any suggestions on how I should handle the situation. I think this girl wants a one night stand out of me, plus she is female player...depsite my 'skill' she is playing the f**k outta me .
I am still gaming other girls, but I want this piece of ass as well. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

EDIT: Pardon any spelling mistakes, I have been up for a while.

[Diagroth]

You should try Lat Flares. The Ladies LOVE the Lat Flares.

[seagull]

It doesn't sound like she likes you at all, mate. I'd just forget about her. Next time you see her, just treat her like you would treat anybody else.

[I Love You]

The alpha female is normally fat and ugly. That's why she's so loud.

So she's probably not one.

[sword-]

Thanks for the advice or lack thereof this girl is an 8.5 / 10...her ambivalnce / flakiness is annoying. Either she doesn't know what she wants or is sincerely afraid that I could be clingly. PUAs...I need your help.

[sweetbecky]

You're forgetting the basics of playing the game. Sometimes we are so tied to the outcome, our true skills go out the window. She pulls back and now you are sweating it. As a former female player, I know this is exactly where she wants you, and you will be at her beck and call when and if she decides she wants to hang out again. If you were to look at it in a non-emotional, rational way, it would be obvious that the best tactic is to pull back and don't give a f***. She may or may not come back around, but you need to act as if you could take it or leave it.

Or it could be that she's just not that into you and found other recreation.

[sword-]

Thanks sweetbecky. Well she has seen me around. If I'm not interested in a girl I say no and if she's a player she should tell me no . This is not about the sex anymore, this is about a struggle of power between players of the opposite sex and I want to win. More of a competition at this point, IF she 'comes around' .

[Georgey Gal]

sounds to me like from that comment she made about being a commitment phobe sounds like she has been hurt in the past and is playing it safe by not giving too much away, maybe she really does like you but can see or sense your a player so doesnt want to get into it. Its the same with girls as I was reading a thread stating most guys turn into bastards after being screwed over by the first girl they loved same with women we toughen up and its hard to break down that barrier.

[sword-]

Yes..interesting. I made out w/ her before and it seemed she wanted a one night stand from me. Weirdly enough being somewhat of a player..I'm still a virgin. This is because of my 'Catholic guilt' I would rather wait for the right girl rather than compromise myself and throw it away in a matter of minutes. So, any suggestions on how I should handle this?

[Georgey Gal]

well if im going down the right route here.. she might have just gave the impression she wanted a one nighta because she thought thats what u expected and wanted and it was the one way to keep you interested... ya see we're not all that different sometimes we behave the way we're expected to behave.. also remember when ya meet that right person it shouldnt have to be hard work.. i dont think there are any real answers thats something u gota work out for yourself. As in a few years ago I wouldnt be thinking this way but it does start to make a bit more sense the more experience ya gain in years. god i feel old te-hee!! yer im really only 24!!

[Dave22reborn]

Originally Posted by I Love You

The alpha female is normally fat and ugly. That's why she's so loud.

So she's probably not one.

What about Tara Reid????

[pSb]

Originally Posted by sword-

Me: Look, I think you played me before.
Jamie: I didn't play you.
Me: Anyways, look...I want to see you again, but that is up to you and I don't want to waste time, do you want to talk to me again or not? Yes or No?
Jamie: I don't know. Can I decide next time we see each other?
Me: Whatever...you should make up your mind now

<I ended the conversation in a brief manner telling her I had to go..or it was mutual>

At one point she was leaving and I attempted to kiss her. She didn't respond , weirdly enough. I kissed her on the cheek and said "you don't want to kiss?" she flat out told me 'no'. I laughed and then left.

DUDE...read that series of events again. This time, picture her saying what you said and doing the things you did. This time, you did the things she did and said.

She is a gamer. She also seems disinterested at this point. Tell her you think it would be best to remain friends.

[Limit Break]

Originally Posted by sword-

As you guys probably know I'm a 21 year old PUA

Originally Posted by sword-

What you guys also might know that I made out with this hot 26 year old a couple of weeks...she didn't call me back

Originally Posted by sword-

or hooking up later that night, I don't remmeber the details of that conversation. She told me she was with some coworkers and couldn't hang with me. She also mentioned that she was a commitment-phobe. She perhaps told me that because she didn't call me back, but she told me a story about her purse being missing and a guy stole her phone.

Originally Posted by sword-

Jamie: I don't know. Can I decide next time we see each other?

Originally Posted by sword-

At one point she was leaving and I attempted to kiss her. She didn't respond , weirdly enough. I kissed her on the cheek and said "you don't want to kiss?" she flat out told me 'no'. I laughed and then left.

You are not a PUA.

[Garth II]

Hahah.

[KarateChris]

In the words of Jimmy Eat World: "If you don't know, honey, then you don't"

[sword-]

Originally Posted by Limit Break

You are not a PUA.

Damn Limit...you called me out We all have our bad nights..that chick is a female player its ****ed up. This experience will only make me a better PUA. A friend of mine works for Mystery (www.mysterymethod.com).. he doesn't always 'pull' a girl. Keep in mind, while you are slicing my post out of context, you failed to take the part out that I was already out with a girl I was gaming and her friends. This is the type of chicks you need to get more chicks..not only social proof / pivot, but also can get you in the club for free and buy you drinks Anyways I did make out w/ another girl that night

Limit..brief background of the story...i did typical 'game'. I ended up in her car, we made out and I did not escalate the situation enough to **** her.

By the way limit, girls flake. She gave me some bull**** excuse about her purse being stolen. You have to realize that it is easy to get number closes, but kiss closes / **** closes during the same night or day two? That is different, I would like to know how many of these closes you have gotten :P . You can still be AFC as hell and get a #, come on.

In addition to that..I think her ASD (anti slut defense) was up because she was with a few coworkers and she was DD. That didn't help the situation at all.

Any suggestions?

[2pounds]

Originally Posted by sword-

She also mentioned that she was a commitment-phobe.

this type of girl only wants to fk, and thats all believe me. especially at 26 thats all they want.

all you can do is bang her, but you need to be aggressive with her, when you speak to her straight up ask her want to ****!! or be more subtle , but the more subtle you are with this type the less of a cance you have with her.
when you bang her, tell her thanks and leave. Then you will have her!!
rapped around your finger

[a_little_blue_f]

Originally Posted by 2pounds

this type of girl only wants to fk, and thats all believe me. especially at 26 thats all they want.

all you can do is bang her, but you need to be aggressive with her, when you speak to her straight up ask her want to ****!! or be more subtle , but the more subtle you are with this type the less of a cance you have with her.
when you bang her, tell her thanks and leave. Then you will have her!!
rapped around your finger

Well... he can't **** her, cuz god says so...
Sword... I think you'll have to please yourself this time...

[AzBadass]

Originally Posted by sword-

As you guys probably know I'm a 21 year old PUA . What you guys also might know that I made out with this hot 26 year old a couple of weeks...she didn't call me back. So I've been seeing her across campus sometimes, I've ignored her or sometimes had small talk and left, no big deal. Tonight was my friend's 22nd birthday (another girl i'm gaming right now ) and we went to 3 places around in the college town of Blacksburg, VA (Virginia Tech). After a little pregaming with some high school friends, I met up with the girl and some of her friends...met up with some of my friends as well and then BOOM! I saw the 26 year old girl again, Jamie. She caught a glance of me a few times, almost nervous or suprised that I was at the same venue as her. I ignored her and went on with my business. I talked to a few girls and had some fun, I really wasn't trying to pick up any girls, or my skill was affected because I was drinking a lot with my friends.

Later on I went to another venue, played some air hockey with a few friends then left to a dance club...BOOM! I saw Jamie again. THIS time I approached her while she was dancing with another girl, she instantly clinged on to me 'Its good to see you' she said. We danced some and had a little small talk. I later talked about seeing her again or hooking up later that night, I don't remmeber the details of that conversation. She told me she was with some coworkers and couldn't hang with me. She also mentioned that she was a commitment-phobe. She perhaps told me that because she didn't call me back, but she told me a story about her purse being missing and a guy stole her phone. Anyways....concerning her and I she told me to leave the conversation alone.

I decided to wait outside for a few friends..some of my friends went another way and waited for me. I saw Jamie and asked her if I could tell her something briefly:

Me: Look, I think you played me before.
Jamie: I didn't play you.
Me: Anyways, look...I want to see you again, but that is up to you and I don't want to waste time, do you want to talk to me again or not? Yes or No?
Jamie: I don't know. Can I decide next time we see each other?
Me: Whatever...you should make up your mind now

<I ended the conversation in a brief manner telling her I had to go..or it was mutual>

At one point she was leaving and I attempted to kiss her. She didn't respond , weirdly enough. I kissed her on the cheek and said "you don't want to kiss?" she flat out told me 'no'. I laughed and then left.

Since I am certain I will see this girl again, any suggestions on how I should handle the situation. I think this girl wants a one night stand out of me, plus she is female player...depsite my 'skill' she is playing the f**k outta me .
I am still gaming other girls, but I want this piece of ass as well. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

EDIT: Pardon any spelling mistakes, I have been up for a while.

Just don't sweat her man. If she wants to, "play," you by having a one night stand with you, GREAT. Chances are, that's what you were going to do to her anyway; and it just makes the, "I don't want to snuggle," part of it that much easier.