ED Recovery guide (help for all those who suffer) *keep bumped*

[friedrice683]

Hi guys:


Lately I see a lot of threads dealing with people with ED's. It saddens me because I suffered this horrible experience for 3 years of my life. 3 years in which I tortured myself. 8 months ago with heart failure, liver failure and kidney failure, I was finally admitted into an anorexic recovery program and had my life saved. Public portrays skinny as "in" but don't fall in that zombified public society thought. Being healthy is much more important and to do this you must achieve a healthy weight - a healthy body fat % - and a healthy outlook towards life.

I hope this one day becomes a sticky mainly because I feel this will help a lot of people to deal with their problems (as well as myself believe it or not). Here it is, my ED recovery guide.



Eight months ago I suffered a failing heart, liver and kidney. I almost died. Eight months ago I was 115lbs on a "heavy" day at 5' 11". Here is how I have recovered.
*********************************ANOREXIA/BULEMIA EATING DISORDERS***********************************


****Step One: Eliminate your self-perception*****
Stop looking at yourself in the mirror. This is the hardest step to do but just do it. The more you stop yourself the better you will be. Stop judging yourself against others. Every human being is different and thus what works for one person will reek havoc on another. Once you realize you are your own identity the better.

Ask yourself these questions:
-Why do I care if I have abs or not? Does it make me a better person? Does it make people like me more (not attraction but companionship)
-If I get as skinny as I strive to be / achieve 6 pack abs (that you will NEVER have being underweight), what does that do for me as a person?
-When I am old and grey and 6 pack abs are a thing of dreams, what do I have to look back on during my youth? The fact that the only thing I cared about was how people perceived me?

****Step Two: My life****
What has an eating disorder done to your personal life? Before I was admitted into recovery, food was my entire life. I would sit alone by myself, shutting myself off from everyone, so I could obsess about diets, foods, and methods of losing weight / becoming better looking. First step, get out of the house.

Whenever a friend calls you to do something you will never answer "no." (Unless it's literally impossible to go out with them) Do not think about anything else but having fun. If they ask you to go to the movies, you reply yes. There is no "no." If they ask you to go to a fast food place for food, you say "yes." (unless you can opt for a healthier choice - the key here is to be able to live a normal life and enjoy the companionship of friends)

You are not allowed to say no. End of story.

Now if you are very seriously unfortunate and have lost all of your friends due to your ED (which happened to me). It is quite simple to retaliate out of this situation. Simply pick up the phone and call a friend. Ask them to do something this weekend, tomorrow, or anything. A good plan is to ask them to go out to the movies, dinner, and then just hang out to catch up. They were your friends once and if you make the effort to rid yourself of your disease (which Eating disorders are) then they will make the effort to accept you back. It's as simple as that.

Open yourself to new people. If you see someone sitting alone at the cafeteria, at work, or on the bus, introduce yourself.

You have to be a friend to make a friend.

****Step Three: Exercise rules****
Lift three-four times a week (find a good upper/body split program or Rippetoe's strength program) and cardio 1-2x on OFF days at 30-45 minutes low intensity OR 10-20 minutes hardcore HIIT. Stay active throughout the day, take walk with friends, hang out with friends and stay busy to keep your mind off of what usually happens with ED sufferer's - the thought of food and dieting.

****Step Four: The Diet****
Here it is. The gold of what you will be looking for all you with ED's. You might not find this the best advice but I personally think anyone suffering from an ED and in recovery will benefit and flourish with these guidelines.

- Multiple your bodyweight by 15 and this is the minimum amount of calories you need in a day in order to live. Now add 500 calories to this and this is your goal for gaining lean muscle mass with minimum fat gains.
- Multiply your weight by 1.5 and this is your daily protein (in grams) requirements that you should strive to hit.
- Multiply your weight by .5 and this is your MINIMUM daily HEALTHY fat (in grams) requirements. Strive to hit AT LEAST this number in grams daily.
- Multiply your protein grams by 4 and fat grams by 9 and add those two numbers together. Then subtract those calories from your kcal goal intake and divide by 4. This is what you should strive for in carbohydrates.

Example: Female 100lbs.
Maintenance = 1500 calories
Total kcal goal for lean muscle mass gain = 2000 calories DAILY
Total protein in grams = 150g
Total fat in grams = AT LEAST 50g of HEALTHY sources
Total carbs in grams = 238g of low gi index carbs, fruit and fibrous veggies

Putting it all together (Examples of good food choices. NOTE THERE ARE NO BAD FOODS, ONLY FOODS THAT OFFER MORE NUTRIENTS THAN THEIR COUNTERPARTS. THERE ARE NO FORBIDDEN FOODS, JUST MAKE SURE WHATEVER YOU WANT FITS WITHIN MACROS.)
Proteins:
Dairy (all kinds - if whole fat go for organic/raw)
Poultry/ Foul
Fish
Lean red meat
Whey
Casein

Fats:
Olive Oil
Flax / Flax oil
Fish oil
Nuts
Avocado
Nutbutters (natural)
Eggs
MCT's (such as in Muscle Milk)
Coconut Oil

Carbs:
Oats
Yams
Potatoes
100% Whole wheat bread
Fruit (all)
Fibrous Veggies (all) (i.e broccoli, cauliflower, green beans, lettuce, ect)
Starchy Veggies (i.e corn, pumpkin, peas)
Rice

Strive for 2-3 servings of fruits a day, as MANY fibrous veggies as you want (veggies are free do not count fibrous veggies in kcals per a day).
Eat 4-6 balanced meals a day (don't buy into that separation of macros, balanced meals lead to more satiety and less insulin output in meals) or as many meals as you see fit.

***************Note***************************
The deal with counting macros is for those who are chronic ED under-eaters (over estimate what they eat) and this ensures that they are hitting their caloric goal in order to achieve a healthier body weight. I actually recommend that if you can make sure you hit your goal by just seeing how your body feels then that's the best route. Counting macros, calories and all that jazz doesn't really help your ED but helps your body recover. I suggest that if you are a chronic under-eater use the above method until a healthy weight is achieved. Once that is completed then go towards eating 4-6 balanced meals a day without counting macros and eating until satiety/minor fullness that way you can learn how to eat again without having to count for your body. Let your body tell YOU when its full, not your mind.
***********************************************

****I will continually update as I see need be. I hope this helps fellow people with Ed's. Best of luck.****


Disclaimer:
This guide has helped me gain 25lbs in the past 8 months while keeping my abs visible (even though that is not important) as well improve all of my lifts: Bench from 130lbsx1 to 175lbsx1, Squat 175x1 to 230x1 and Deadlift from nothing to 230x1. This guide has also helped me regain friendships I thought I had lost forever. It has helped me become a better person in general. I hope it can do the same for you.

(edit to include binge eating disorder)
************************************BINGE EATING DISORDER******************************************

Over-eating on certain foods because of the feeling of "no control" (in copious amounts) can be considered binge eating disorder. An example of binge eating disorder would be having just a normal scoop or two of icecream and then feeling like "Well I screwed up my diet for today, might as well eat the rest of it!" Most binge eaters have an "all or nothing" mind set in that if they dont have a perfect diet and mess it up just a little, they will go ahead and have everything they want because they already blew it. (PLANNED CHEATS ARE NOT CONSIDERED BINGE EATING!!!)

Then once that is complete you feel like well might as well get the most outa this! And continue eating crappy foods. For the next days you would eat very little to offset the calories binged on and then a binge would follow again due to the "starve/binge" cycle you are teaching your body.


I actually went into this cycle about a year ago (probably would have died if I didn't, no joke, my body was desperate for calories)



****Here is the cure:****

Simply do the same thing as I prescribed within my anorexia/bulemia guide but include small amounts of cheat food daily. At the end of one meal a day, FOR EXAMPLE, have one of those 100 calorie chocolate bars (fit it in your macros if you count them) but only one! That way you are teaching your body slowly that its ok to indulge a little. This helps tremendously.

Slowly after two weeks of doing this, split that indulgence into once every two days for one meal. After a week go to three days. After a month of doing this eliminate all cheat foods and then 10% of your weekly meals (if for instance you have 6 meals a day indulge a little bit in 3-4 of your meals throughout the week) you are allowed to indulge a little. BUT DONT BINGE!

This teaches your body that its OK to indulge a little bit and not go overboard. I personally did this about a year and a half ago to break my binge/starve cycle. Of course I never recovered from eating disorders because then I just continued a starve cycle without the binge.

Hope this helps for those who suffer binge eating disorder

[purduedood]

I see a great number of forum members who appear to have various forms of ED.. .keep this going.

Thank you for your contribution!

Thank you for your courage!

[BlueFenix13S]

Took my recommendation I see. Reps man.

[friedrice683]

Thanks man

Hopefully the mods can realize this and maybe make it a sticky to see how it works out with keeping fellow ED threads down at bay?


EDITS TO THE ABOVE GUIDE:

Binge eating disorder clinic recovery way of curing binge eating:
- Eat dessert 3x a week.
- Read the guide each time "You will gain weight. However, once your body is able to realize the feeling of full and receive nutrients it needs, it will allow you to only need a few bites of restricted food and receive satiety from it. This is called mindful eating and once you are at the level of only needing a few bites of a certain food to cure that craving, you are on your way to recovery!"
- There are no restricted foods or bad foods or anything! Portion control is EVERYTHING!



*************FOR BOTH GROUPS!!!!*************

When you eat a food, really enjoy the taste of it. Let it melt into your body and feel the flavor and heat of the food whether it be soft, cold, chewy, crunchy, sweet, salty, rich, bland, anything. Taste each bite so that your mind and body can appreciate the food for what it is - fuel.

Each time you are about to eat rate your hunger on a scale of 1-10. If you are under 5, only choose one or two servings of protein, carbs and fats and gauge your hunger after that. If above 5, modify as needed so that you can satisfy that hunger and feel satisfied after a meal without wanting more!

[PumpinPaddy]

Great post man ....id give you reps if they counted for anything!!!

[tinyman5000]

what bout over eating, is that a ED? Like not over eating on any particular food, but giving in to a snack every time you get hungry. or is that just hunger, cause my doc says that's ED, even though I don't gain weight. Parents think I'm normal. Like if i ate when i was hungry i'd probably down 3500+ and might only gain a little weight if i was really active, so i have no idea. Thanks for making this thread though my brother/mom are in denial about their eating disorders and its good to see someone just come out and talk about it.

[Aindreas]

Repped. I hope people with ED read this and actually take time to follow it. Props to you for recovering.

[BlueFenix13S]

Originally Posted by tinyman5000

what bout over eating, is that a ED? Like not over eating on any particular food, but giving in to a snack every time you get hungry. or is that just hunger, cause my doc says that's ED, even though I don't gain weight. Parents think I'm normal. Like if i ate when i was hungry i'd probably down 3500+ and might only gain a little weight if i was really active, so i have no idea. Thanks for making this thread though my brother/mom are in denial about their eating disorders and its good to see someone just come out and talk about it.

If you feel hunger, eat. Your body is trying to tell you something, it needs nourishment. Now if your just eating food because its there, that's not good, but if you are hungry, you should NEVER deny that feeling.

[friedrice683]

Over-eating on certain foods (in copious amounts) can be considered binge eating disorder. An example of binge eating disorder would be having just a normal scoop or two of icecream and then feeling like "Well I screwed up my diet for today, might as well eat the rest of it!"

Then once that is complete you feel like well might as well get the most outa this! And continue eating crappy foods. For the next days you would eat very little to offset the calories binged on and then a binge would follow again due to the "starve/binge" cycle you are teaching your body.


I actually went into this cycle about a year ago (probably would have died if I didn't, no joke, my body was desperate for calories)



I have the cure for this also and will edit my post to include this:

Simply do the same thing as I prescribed within my ED guide but include small amounts of cheat food daily. At the end of one meal a day, for example, have one of those 100 calorie chocolate bars (fit it in your macros if you count them) but only one! That way you are teaching your body slowly that its ok to indulge a little. This helps tremendously.

Slowly after two weeks of doing this, split that into once every two days per one meal. After a week go to three days. After a month of doing this eliminate all cheat foods and then 3 meals a week (if for instance you have 6 a day) you are allowed to indulge a little.

This teaches your body its ok to indulge a little bit and not go overboard. I personally did this about a year and a half ago to break my binge/starve cycle. Of course I never recovered because then I just continued a starve cycle without the binge. So yes, try that man.

Over-eating any food in copious amounts often (say once or twice a week, talking like a pint of ice cream for example) is considered binge-eating disorder.

[Aindreas]

Originally Posted by friedrice683

Over-eating any food in copious amounts often (say once or twice a week, talking like a pint of ice cream for example) is considered binge-eating disorder.

I don't know if I'd call that binge-disorder or just bad eating habits. I mean, growing up I'd eat a pint of ice cream every night and about half a pizza on Sunday nights when my family would always order one. I never thought twice about it, it was just food I enjoyed eating so I ate it because I didn't give a sh*t about nutrition and it didn't seem to be negatively impacting me b/c of how ridiculous my metabolism was. My dad still eats a pint of ice cream a night and is overweight but not ridiculously so. If eating a pint of ice cream constitutes a binge, I'd say about half of Americans have binge eating disorder.

[friedrice683]

NOTICE THE EDIT PLEASE!

I edited the guide so that it is now "Anorexia/Bulemia" guide and then a "Binge Eating disorder" guide.

Hope this helps guys.

[sborton84]

Thank you for posting this . Reps to you of course. I struggled with an eating disorder for many years. My body wasted away, I lost my sense of self, and I nearly died after a traumatic accident. I guess you could say accident, but it was still my choice to go through with starving myself. Recovery is such a long process, I'm still fighting it 5 years later.

I love bodybuilding, yet I hate it. I sometimes to think to myself about how easy it would be to shred the fat away by doing something that once came like second nature. Then, I have to fight that thought with, hey, I'm doing this to be strong, I'm doing this to find my balance, I'm doing this to encourage others to do the same...and I remember what anorexia brought me. It made me completely empty. Not only physically empty. But empty spiritually, physically, and emotionally. I could not feel. When I remember the feeling of utter emptiness, I remember why I'm in recovery, why I lift weights, and I why I dedicate so much of my efforts to eating healthfully.

If anyone ever wonders why I get so angry when people complain about not being able to see their abs, and then everyone responds with "clean diet, more cardio, etc," it is because I know from experience that the self-torture and deprivation involved with certain body types is not worth it. Recovery is also about accepting yourself where you are at right now, with the courage to set goals and accept slow progress.

Thank you again !!!

[lupinecat]

Brilliant. Reps. The only problem is I think a lot of people who have ED's dont actually realize they have one...

[friedrice683]

Sadly true, sadly true.


I personally think that anyone who has a warped self-image has the stem of an eating disorder which is sadly like 50% of women out there.


A good indicator if you have an eating disorder or not is if you constantly think about food and ways to manipulate it to reach your goals / think you might have an ED disorder. If those two match you, then I would say you have an ED (even if its just minor, any eating disorder is considered a marred relationship with food)


Again I would ultimately like to see this kept as a sticky and continue to help others with their recovery as well as myself. So far I have helped two girls that I know persnonally with theirs and I could actually see myself doing this as a profession >_>

[sborton84]

That's actually what I'm going into !! Just graduated with my degree in Psychology (I'm working as a personal trainer for the time being) and I'm applying to doctoral programs right now. I'm hoping to come as an Eating Disorder Specialist sometime in the next 7 years. (Although a PhD isn't required, a Masters will suffice, the PhD gives you greater flexibility and training.) There are a few great schools for this, one university that is doing amazing research is The University of Chicago. It's sad...in some of the clinics, they have reported children as young as 5 years old with severe eating disorders. U of Chicago is doing tons of research regarding the age of onset (how young children are now suffering). Anyway, food for thought.

[djansen]

Very true, and sad. I see you put alot of work into this and congrats on your recovery. reps

[friedrice683]

What would I go about studying besides psychology if I was interested in making this a profession ? >_>


Right now as a junior in high school my classes are
American Literature
Us History
Precalculus -> Calculus
Spanish 3 honors
Chemistry (already took bio and phys though)
AP Micro and Macro Economics

And I took an introduction to psychology as a sophomore last year

Just focus on the psychology or what?

[tinyman5000]

I personally think that anyone who has a warped self-image has the stem of an eating disorder which is sadly like 50% of women out there.


A good indicator if you have an eating disorder or not is if you constantly think about food and ways to manipulate it to reach your goals / think you might have an ED disorder. If those two match you, then I would say you have an ED (even if its just minor, any eating disorder is considered a marred relationship with food)


Again I would ultimately like to see this kept as a sticky and continue to help others with their recovery as well as myself. So far I have helped two girls that I know persnonally with theirs and I could actually see myself doing this as a profession >_>
__________________
Current Stack:
Dymatize Elite Whey
Muscle Milk
ON Opti-Men
Fish Oil


/
I don't know about that, I know I think about food constantly because I'm constantly hungry and enjoy eating, but if we want to use foods to achieve goals (like be a competitive bber some day) I see nothing wrong with it. If someone is on such a strict diet that they are vomiting **** up because they have no discipline then that's ED. I don't eat refined sugar anymore, and I don't eat package/processed snack crap or stuff cause I know it'll make me fat, even in moderation. I eat out ALOT but I try to get something that's healthy and good at the same time. Even if it doesn't make me fat it'll make me sick/get acne, I know because this happened to me! And I don't compensate with cardio, I hate cardio. If I over eat I eat 100 calories less then i would each day of the week, so I don't have to think about crap. That 100 calories could be a glass of milk or a piece of bread, and that's a small and guiltless sacrifice for that 500 calorie piece of burnt almond torte. And what's with people using the word guilt? The only person you're cheating is yourself, don't feel guilty, feel ashamed if it bothers you. I don't feel either, cause my goal is to be a freak of nature in four years, not hot for beach season. And I really like this thread, how do you go about telling a family member they have ED? Any tips?

[friedrice683]

^^^ Dude....


That itself is a stem of an ED believe it or not.


Certain foods do not make a person fat. You are stemming an ED in saying that if you eat refined sugar or wheat it'll make you fat, caus it definately won't. As a recovering ED I am constantly using myself as an experiment to justify what people currently think.



I had pasta at dinner tonight, last night and the night before (white pasta! OMG!) oh and a piece of raisin toast at brunch today (WHITE OMG!)

I am hitting my macros and eating those foods with other foods of protein and fat, thus blunting the GI. I have yet to see my "abs disapear" or anything of that nature.


Certain foods do not make an individual fat. Excess calories and lack of exercise do. End of story on that one man.

[friedrice683]

Going about talking to a family member about it! Great question! Another section I should add

When I talked to my parents about it, it was easy (unfortunately) because both of my parents have suffered from ED's (which brings another theory in ED's in that they are genetic)

Simply take your parents and tell them...Listen...I need to talk to you about something that is really affecting my daily life and is making me miserable and simply tell them your perdicament with food. Food is the enemy with ED's and once your parents understand that - it will be easy. A good way to tell them is this

"I remember when I was happy, mom. I would come home from school, eat some chips and cookies, do my homework, play some video games and watch TV while eating pizza. I loved life. I had friends and people liked me. But now food consumes my life. I constantly am afraid of what people will think of me and am constantly trying to become thinner despite what people already think of me. I don't want to continue doing this to myself and I need your help"

How is that?

[tinyman5000]

Uh dude my mom isn't eating and neither is my brother, I'm eating food to gain weight (roughly 2800 cals, but i just keep a mental count, make sure i get enough protein/fat and carbs depending on my activity level, might have to bump it up), and I get acne and **** from stuff high in sugar/processed, especially on my jaw line. Then I can't shave and I look really weird! No I'm worried about my mom not eating, then binging on ice cream and potato chips late at night. And my brother lost 10 lbs in a month, he doesn't exercise so he's either vomiting or really sick, so I don't know.

[sborton84]

Originally Posted by friedrice683

What would I go about studying besides psychology if I was interested in making this a profession ? >_>


Right now as a junior in high school my classes are
American Literature
Us History
Precalculus -> Calculus
Spanish 3 honors
Chemistry (already took bio and phys though)
AP Micro and Macro Economics

And I took an introduction to psychology as a sophomore last year

Just focus on the psychology or what?

You can also hold a masters in dietetics o become an eating disorder specialist.
Check out
http://www.iaedp.com/requirements_fo...0nutrition.htm
for more info

ooh it looks like Masters in Exercise Physiology as well!

[IrockZ]

wow depressing thread bro.. i personally see nothing wrong with being super strict during the week and allowing urself a cheat once a week. in as much quantity as you see fit.. according to you i have an ED!!!??! haha i most certainly do not.. i do not constantly think about food, but i do enjoy my cheat meal.. i also enjoy being strict during the week.. i have also noticed physical benefits of a weekly "binge", because beleive it or not 48 hours later i always look better.!!! im not obsessed with my weight.. i could give 2 ****s about how much i weigh.. its how u look that matters.. i am a perfectly happy person that goes out to clubs, i bartend and DJ 2 to 3 times a week and have a very active social existence... but i measure food eat strict, (super low carbs) work out alot and yes i "binge" one night a week and dont regret it at all.. hmmm mayb im an exception to the rule.

[tinyman5000]

IRockz is right, I only constantly think about food when I'm away from it and i'm really hungry, they said you should eat every 3 hours to curb that and it works for me. i measure **** and stuff, as weird body type I don't have the metabolism of some of the guys on this site and I'm TERRIBLE at eyeballing it. Plus I enjoy making food, coming up with recipes and makin food for my family. I hate people who feel guilty after a binge/cheat, piss on them. And who exercises to be average? I see my friends taking up weightlifting for 3 weeks and they dont see results and say screw it, that's a problem right there. Not the guy who sticks with it for the rest of their life and actually ENJOYS it, I get high off lifting weights and I like eating big meals that taste good and are healthy for me. I guess I got ED.

[friedrice683]

You two lost the point of my post.

No you don't have an ED. You guys have control.


Binge eating would be having the loss of control. Notice how I said allowing yourself one scoop of icecream but then eating the whole things because you feel you already messed up your diet?



It's TOTALLY different than PLANNING a cheat meal where you eat anything you want. THAT IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT. The fact with binge eating is you will allow yourself a treat but then have that all/or nothing concept and eat everything in site because you feel you already blew it.


Please read carefully =/

[friedrice683]

Because you two were a little confused, I edited my original guide to make it more precise so that it will be even clearer for further readers.

Sorry for the confusion.

[tinyman5000]

I don't think I used to have control, but I never thought about food as much as i did when I was heavy (148-150, 14% bf), but when i was heavy i ate a ****load of crappy food when ever someone offered, but looking back I never at as much as i do now, and i'm pretty much a couch potato and I'm havin trouble gaining weight. That's why i seem alarmed when I post paranoid threads/posts lol! i don't really have temptations to binge..If I feel like a snack I get sf ice cream and some warmed up peanut butter, really no taste difference. parents tell me i should eat more(dad says as much as 3200, that's excessive at my activity level), I don't get it though. I'm literally a couch potato and work out, study, and lay around cause i'm too sore to move sometimes lol. Yet I go through 100 bucks a week, sometimes more on food. Gaining weight? maybe, happy with my body image and working out, yes and no. Like i said before, I won't stop workin out and gaining weight until I'm a freak, and people say I have ED around me when they see me not eat at Taco bell. Little do they know I go home and have an 8 oz steak, 24 cups of spinach cooked in oil/garlic, mashed yams, and a tall glass of whole milk. So I don't know how things are going. Does it sound like my parents are worried about me? And do I look unhealthy in my pics?

[hrlykid83]

Nice.. I like this thread

[Aindreas]

Originally Posted by tinyman5000

I don't think I used to have control, but I never thought about food as much as i did when I was heavy (148-150, 14% bf), but when i was heavy i ate a ****load of crappy food when ever someone offered, but looking back I never at as much as i do now, and i'm pretty much a couch potato and I'm havin trouble gaining weight. That's why i seem alarmed when I post paranoid threads/posts lol! i don't really have temptations to binge..If I feel like a snack I get sf ice cream and some warmed up peanut butter, really no taste difference. parents tell me i should eat more(dad says as much as 3200, that's excessive at my activity level), I don't get it though. I'm literally a couch potato and work out, study, and lay around cause i'm too sore to move sometimes lol. Yet I go through 100 bucks a week, sometimes more on food. Gaining weight? maybe, happy with my body image and working out, yes and no. Like i said before, I won't stop workin out and gaining weight until I'm a freak, and people say I have ED around me when they see me not eat at Taco bell. Little do they know I go home and have an 8 oz steak, 24 cups of spinach cooked in oil/garlic, mashed yams, and a tall glass of whole milk. So I don't know how things are going. Does it sound like my parents are worried about me? And do I look unhealthy in my pics?

I don't want to sound rude, but I still don't think I understand your situation. You talk about how you have trouble gaining weight, but you don't want to bump up your calories because you don't do anything, which is because you're tired from working out all the time (meaning you are doing something). Then you stuff yourself with 24 cups of spinach, which is a lot volume-wise but really calorically sparse. Incidentally, you're hungry all the time, but as mentioned before, you don't think you need that much food, even though you can't gain weight.

Like I said, not to be rude, but wtf is the deal here?

[hrlykid83]

I Right now am still trying to recover from a ED. I am anorexic but dont want to admit it.. I battled Bulimia for about a year but not that i dont Throw up im afraid to eat..
The weird thing is that now say i dont eat for like 4 days ill gain like a pound or something.. its been odd. Im deeplly terrified to gain weight because the fact that all the weight or fat that i gain is in the Lower stomach area. the awefull gut which i dont know how to get rid of.. if some one could give me a good diet and workout plan that would get me leaner and lose the gut that would be wonderful.. but doesnt seem like there is a way for me.. I did the cardio and nothing.. still a gut..

When i do eat it mostly just broccoli and maybe like 2oz peice of steamed cod fish.. thats it..