carbs for protein shakes...and also ? about oats

[nicholaskwan]

when ppl say put some carbs in a protein shakes...particularly for a PWO shake...what else do u guys put in besides fruit/oats?

and about oats...what kind do you buy...where?

Thanks!

[BlueFenix13S]

Honey, hot cocoa powder, I know some people who use Ovaltine Malt mix (it has maltodextrin)

If you want to buy a carb powder, NOW foods has malto in a 7 lb tub for I think $15 on *********

For the oats, I just get Quaker rolled oats (quick oats or old fashioned style) from Wal-Mart, nothing special about em

[Hottsauce]

Originally Posted by nicholaskwan

when ppl say put some carbs in a protein shakes...particularly for a PWO shake...what else do u guys put in besides fruit/oats?

and about oats...what kind do you buy...where?

Thanks!

Raw oats, grind them up in a coffee bean grinder then put it in your shake!

[pologod05]

neither fruit nor oats. dextrose all the way. and from bb.com of course.

[nicholaskwan]

what does dextrose do...and what are the advantages of oats anyways

[cakedonkey]

Originally Posted by nicholaskwan

what does dextrose do...and what are the advantages of oats anyways

Dextrose is just a simple sugar. Oats have quite a wide array of benefits [1], but generally: they're low-GI, dirt-cheap, good source of beta-glucan, and are just amazingly convenient.

Refs. cited:

1. http://whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname...healthbenefits

[cakedonkey]

Originally Posted by pologod05

neither fruit nor oats. dextrose all the way. and from bb.com of course.

Why use nutritionally inferior carb sources? Why not get beneficial fibers/beta-glucan, trace vitamins/minerals, whole grain, etc. as opposed to a high-GI simple sugar that has no real redeeming value other than the fact that it's 'a carb source'.

I swear, the downfall of many newcomers to this game is 'designer' carb sources. Instead of nutrient-dense, meaningful carbs, simple sugars are used left & right to 'spike insulin bro...'. It's sad.

[The Solution]

what do u think would be the best combo PWO?

banana + oats + whey
banana + dex + whey
Oats + Dex + Whey

state which you think and why? just curious.. i currently do dex + banana + whey.. just wondering if the oats + dex would be better or oats + banana

looking for best possible PWO carb source mixture thanx a ton guys!

[BlueFenix13S]

Banana+Oats+Whey would get my vote

My current shake is this:

1 medium banana
1tbsp honey
1 cup skim milk
1 scoop whey

[Sixpack]

Bump to this , no need for dextrose IMO, but if you like pure sugar postworkout go for it

Originally Posted by cakedonkey

Dextrose is just a simple sugar. Oats have quite a wide array of benefits [1], but generally: they're low-GI, dirt-cheap, good source of beta-glucan, and are just amazingly convenient.

Refs. cited:

1. http://whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname...healthbenefits

[Skull Crusher Chris]

Originally Posted by cakedonkey

Why use nutritionally inferior carb sources? Why not get beneficial fibers/beta-glucan, trace vitamins/minerals, whole grain, etc. as opposed to a high-GI simple sugar that has no real redeeming value other than the fact that it's 'a carb source'.

I swear, the downfall of many newcomers to this game is 'designer' carb sources. Instead of nutrient-dense, meaningful carbs, simple sugars are used left & right to 'spike insulin bro...'. It's sad.

Agreed, great post cake!

[djansen]

I am going to try a huge bowl of cherrios with my whey.

[nvhladek]

As a newcomer, I've found some conflicting information on this site regarding post-workout shakes.

Consider for example, this "Topic of the Week":
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/topicoftheweek37.htm The top two responses to "What is a proper post-workout nutrition diet?" both recommend dextrose. Then I read in the article, "Bulking for Endomorphs" (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/beast41.htm) that dextrose is bad for endomorphs because it has a high GI and decreases insulin sensitivity. Then I come upon the thread, "Elements Challenging the Concept, Principle, & Strict Application of Glycemic Index" (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=283787) that says it's all hype. Then finally I come to this thread that says that dextrose is fine, but it would be much better to use whole food sources for better nutrition.

Any advice for newcomers how to sort all this out? Because I bought 2 lbs of dextrose from bb.com and 4 lbs of maltodextrin (on sale at the local health food co-op) and I'm thinking I wasted my money. But then again, maybe I can just use it up and switch my diet later, and it won't be a big deal after all...

[BlueFenix13S]

Originally Posted by nvhladek

As a newcomer, I've found some conflicting information on this site regarding post-workout shakes.

Consider for example, this "Topic of the Week":
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/topicoftheweek37.htm The top two responses to "What is a proper post-workout nutrition diet?" both recommend dextrose. Then I read in the article, "Bulking for Endomorphs" (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/beast41.htm) that dextrose is bad for endomorphs because it has a high GI and decreases insulin sensitivity. Then I come upon the thread, "Elements Challenging the Concept, Principle, & Strict Application of Glycemic Index" (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=283787) that says it's all hype. Then finally I come to this thread that says that dextrose is fine, but it would be much better to use whole food sources for better nutrition.

Any advice for newcomers how to sort all this out? Because I bought 2 lbs of dextrose from bb.com and 4 lbs of maltodextrin (on sale at the local health food co-op) and I'm thinking I wasted my money. But then again, maybe I can just use it up and switch my diet later, and it won't be a big deal after all...

Maltodextrin is fine IMO, but I would never touch dextrose. Trial and error is how you sort it out. I got fat again when I used dex, so I went back to whole foods.

[nike103103]

I like using dextrose PWO. I have a whey shake then I mix my creatine into Gatoraid powder wich has dextrose in it, and eat a banana. Dextrose for me FTW

And about oats, they are a college student's best friend. Just throw em in a bowl no need to cook em and pour some milk over em and down they go. Such an easy and benificial carb source

[gountilfailure0]

people have been successful using dextose post i prefer using fruits myself more benefit for ur buck strawberries/ bananas whey/milk

[nicholaskwan]

how do u bump...and are u telling me that or somethin haha

[martinibluex]

Originally Posted by nicholaskwan

what does dextrose do...

the same thing any other pwo carbs do - replenish glycogen if calculated well or replenish glycogen and feed the fat cells if you get too much

and what are the advantages of oats anyways

none IMHO

i prefer using fruits myself more benefit for ur buck strawberries/ bananas whey/milk

x2