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Old 09-02-2007, 04:39 AM   #1
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Age: 19 Height: 181cm Weight: 79kg BF%: 16 - Goal trim those damn love handles and bodyfat to 10% or lower by end of november.

Cutting Diet:

6.00am - 1 protein shake + 100g wholemgrain rolled Oats + stawberries
Carbs: 39.7 Protein: 30.4 Fat: 6.9 Cals: 490


9 or 10.00am - 100g tuna in springwater + an apple
Carbs: 0g Protein: 25.5g Fat: 0g Cals: 112


12.00pm - 230g Chicken Breast Skin off roasted with vegetables (tomatoes, lettace, cuccumber and carrots)
Carbs: 0g Protein: 64g Fat: 4g Cals: 320

got a cals info for chicken breast here: http://www.dietfacts.com/html/nutrit...sted-18872.htm


4.00pm - (Pre workout)- 100g wholegrain rolled oats + can of tuna in springwater
Carbs: 30.9g Protein: 36.3g Fat: 8.4g Cals: 482

GYM - After workout protein shake Protein: 24g Carbsl 2.4 Fat: 1.7 cals: 120

6.30pm - 300g Lean Beef with vegetables (tomatoes, lettace, cuccumber and carrots)
Carbs: 0g Protein: 60g Fat: 5.7g Cals: 240


8.30pm - 300g Lean Beef with vegetables (tomatoes, lettace, cuccumber and carrots)
Carbs: 0g Protein: 60g Fat: 5.7g Cals: 240


before bed 2 tablespoons all natural peanut butter
carbs: 4.8g Protein: 14.2g Fat: 24g cals: 300cals


carbs: 77.8g
fats: 56.4
protein: 206.4
cals: 2304

fruits within AM , no milk or bread.


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Old 09-02-2007, 06:44 AM   #2
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Age: 19 Height: 181cm Weight: 79kg BF%: 16 - Goal trim those damn love handles and bodyfat to 10% or lower by end of november.

Cutting Diet:

6.00am - 1 protein shake + 100g wholemgrain rolled Oats + stawberries
Carbs: 39.7 Protein: 30.4 Fat: 6.9 Cals: 490


9 or 10.00am - 100g tuna in springwater + an apple <--- where complex carb? or fat source.. 112 cals in a snack? terrible
Carbs: 0g Protein: 25.5g Fat: 0g Cals: 112


12.00pm - 230g Chicken Breast Skin off roasted with vegetables (tomatoes, lettace, cuccumber and carrots) <--- complex carb or fat? more variety in veggies
Carbs: 0g Protein: 64g Fat: 4g Cals: 320

got a cals info for chicken breast here: http://www.dietfacts.com/html/nutrit...sted-18872.htm


4.00pm - (Pre workout)- 100g wholegrain rolled oats + can of tuna in springwater <-- get variety u have tuna 2-3 times a day how about eggs / turkey?
Carbs: 30.9g Protein: 36.3g Fat: 8.4g Cals: 482

GYM - After workout protein shake Protein: 24g Carbsl 2.4 Fat: 1.7 cals: 120 + carbs??? where are they.. 2:1 carb pro ratio in a good drink.. better for muscle restoration after a workout.. read up

6.30pm - 300g Lean Beef with vegetables (tomatoes, lettace, cuccumber and carrots) <--- more variety in ur veggies.. how about broccoli, califlour, asapargus, green beans?
Carbs: 0g Protein: 60g Fat: 5.7g Cals: 240


8.30pm - 300g Lean Beef with vegetables (tomatoes, lettace, cuccumber and carrots) <-- variety in ur meals?? where are all ur fats i see none
Carbs: 0g Protein: 60g Fat: 5.7g Cals: 240


before bed 2 tablespoons all natural peanut butter <-- add some cottage cheese or milk (caesin protein)
carbs: 4.8g Protein: 14.2g Fat: 24g cals: 300cals


carbs: 77.8g
fats: 56.4
protein: 206.4
cals: 2304

fruits within AM , no milk or bread.

NO fats what so ever in this diet.. u need to def add some fats.. and also ur complex carbs are so low its disgusting.. i suggest at least 100g of carbs, the pro is fine and maybe bump the fats up a lil bit to 70g add some almonds in there or some olive oil on those veggies in 1 of the meals..

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I really suggest u need 1 day out of the gym.. prob going to overtrain/tire out ur body going EVERYDAY.. u need 1 day completely out of the gym to let the body rest up man
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Old 09-02-2007, 06:53 AM   #3
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I really suggest u need 1 day out of the gym.. prob going to overtrain/tire out ur body going EVERYDAY.. u need 1 day completely out of the gym to let the body rest up man
Don't give advise on something you know nothing about.. Its bad enough having your misguided advise regarding proper nutrition, but now workout advise?! GTFO..

Everyone eventually reaches a point where they have to deload or take a week off. It's called prolonged fatigue.. He's not even lifting weights on those days, just doing cardio. I suggest you do some SERIOUS reading before giving anymore advise.
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Old 09-02-2007, 07:02 AM   #4
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and i dont see you giving advice.. all i ever see you do is flame about other people.. so why dont u give advice and stop flaming?

and do you train in the gym everyday? and tell me the benefits of banging it out in the gym everyday will do for a body.. the legs/body needs a rest eventaully and phsycally fatiguing it by doing cardio/weightlifting everyday will not be the anwser even if u do break it up doing weights 4x a week and cardio 3x a week and being in there everyday..

i just suggest an off day to let the body rest up and to refule the muscles
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and i dont see you giving advice.. all i ever see you do is flame about other people.. so why dont u give advice and stop flaming?

and do you train in the gym everyday? and tell me the benefits of banging it out in the gym everyday will do for a body.. the legs/body needs a rest eventaully and phsycally fatiguing it by doing cardio/weightlifting everyday will not be the anwser even if u do break it up doing weights 4x a week and cardio 3x a week and being in there everyday..

i just suggest an off day to let the body rest up and to refule the muscles
I'm not qualified to give advise. I don't have years of experience, or an education in the field, and neither do you! You may think you know what your talking about, but I've learned that "thinking" and "knowing" are two completely different things.

No, I do not. Their however isn't anything wrong with it. Read up on Olympic Lifters, and see if they take a rest day. You'll eventually have to take a rest, its inevitable.
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I'm not qualified to give advise. I don't have years of experience, or an education in the field, and neither do you! You may think you know what your talking about, but I've learned that "thinking" and "knowing" are two completely different things.

No, I do not. Their however isn't anything wrong with it. Read up on Olympic Lifters, and see if they take a rest day. You'll eventually have to take a rest, its inevitable.
you even stated that you eventually have to take a rest.. why would going to fatigue be a smart idea? that is just a way to start breaking down your own body.. its a lot better to take it easy on ur body 1 day a week and let ur muscles recover that way come through the week ur muscles are more refuled instead of beat from the day before of constanly working out.. most body builders if u look at their routine always include a rest day
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actually, there isn't a day now that i'm not doing something, whether it be cardio or weights, i guess sunday is very light though, having it be my minors (abs, calves, and forearms). Babybodybuilder was correct in the prolonged fatigue, once ever 8-12 weeks, you must give your body a rest in order for the immune system to build back up. Everytime you tear down a muscle fiber, the immune system must repair it, while fending off any parasites that come into the body. This is very taxing on your body. Jay cutler only recently (the last 2 years) included an off day(being sunday). Branch warren doesnt have one either. Ronnie has one now due to his age, only becuase of his age. Many IFBB pros use splits that optimize their time.

I'm not "backing up" anyone. just stating the facts.


BB_Drummer - Your program is quite solid.

Pros-
1. your metabolism will be quite high due to an activity each day.
2. You have included a 2 days on 1 day off between weights
3. Your cals are from sound nutrition

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1. You must do something everyday (willpower comes in here)
2. You have included quite a bit of Lean Beef (nothing wrong with it, just becareful about the fat content)
3. Your PB before the bed is not accompained by and protein, thus making the use of a pre-bed meal useless. either take it out, or subtract cals from another area (ex. carbs) and add a protein source (ex. CC, caesin) before bed with the natty PB


I hope this helps you buddy, best of luck.
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to the OP, look past the bitch ass drama and come down to my post!

i would take protein with the pb at night, i might up the fats throughout the day, and it is one of the better diets that i have seen.
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