Muscle Milk Dog food?

[xologist]

I just found this...

Alright guys, lets put taste aside and look at the ingredients:


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uscle Milk........................................


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l Calories: 348
Calories From Fat: 162
Total Fat: 18 g 28%
Saturated Fat: 8 g 40%
Cholesterol: 3 mg 1%
Sodium: 200 mg 8%
Potassium: 595 mg 17%
Total Carbohydrates: 12 g 4%
Dietary Fiber: <2 g 8%
Sugars: 6 g
Protein: 32 g 64%



........................4oz of Cold Stone - Cake Batter..............................


Total Fat 15.4 g 24%
Saturated Fat 9.4 g 47%
Cholesterol 57 mg 19%
Sodium 140 mg 6%
Total Carbohydrates 33.4 g 11%
Dietary Fiber 0 g 0%
Sugars 25.4 g
Protein 4 g
Calcium 133.6 mg




Ok, so the cake batter has more carbohydrates, but the main point is that they are so similar. You do not want that much fat, especially saturated fat in your supplement. Take another kind of cake batter, and add some protein then you have muscle milk. They throw in that it has MCT's to try to make up for all the fat and persuade buyers to purchase this product and look over all the fat.

Now lets look at their Ingestion timing recommendations:

Before: Drink 30 minutes - two hours before your workout as you would a performance shake or smoothie
During: Drink together with Cytomax to flood the body with growth nutrients and acid-buffering agents
After: Drink within one-hour after workouts to encourage muscle synthesis during periods normally marked by breakdown
Evening: One serving before bed helps make your sleep time more anabolic


Before: You definitely do not want that much fat 30min before a workout considering polyunsaturated fats have to travel through our lymphatic system before they even reach the duodenum where they severely slow digestion.

During: This is a nice idea, but in order to digest all that food you have to pull blood away from working muscles to the stomach to digest the nutrients. This can severely limit muscle growth and can cause fatigue.

After: Now they are recommending it for PWO. I will again mention that fats SLOW DOWN digestion which is one of the last things you want after a workout when your body is in a catabolic state. You want fast digesting proteins and carbohydrates. This product has casein protein which takes roughly 7 hours to finish metabolizing, so it is a SLOW ACTING PROTIEN, which is horrible after a workout.

Evening: This time would be the only time I would slightly agree with, however for the reasons they recommend it you could just buy some cottage cheese which is much healthier and cuts out all that fat.



Want to know some useless fact? The president of Cytosport used to work for Champion Nutrition. Champion marketed Muscle Milk (and it's EXACT contents) but sold it to pet stores and vets for large dogs. Basically, it was dog food.

The current president of Cytosport wanted to change the market for Muscle Milk and use it on athletes. The higher ups of Champion found that rather disgusting, as it was dog food (had a picture of the dog on the container and everything). So he left and started his own company, Cytosport, and stole the recipe for Muscle Milk, added just a dash of sugar to make it taste better, and marketed it towards athletes under the name of Muscle Milk. Champion sued Cytosport, but lost due to the fact that the ingredients were margionally different (only by about 150mg of sugar) and it was marketed towards humans, not pets. None the less, Cytosport was in debt for the first 5 years of its existance, but depended soley on the success of Muscle Milk.

Their entire company is founded upon dog food




So next time your going to have a scoop of your muscle milk or are thinking of buying it, think of cold stone and dog food!!

So any thought about this?

[polgas]

if this is true then all I can say is woof woof!!!

Muscle Milk and Syntha 6 FTW!!!

[cal62887]

in Before the Roid Dog...

[xologist]

I guess Dog food is not so bad after all lol

[quank]

dogs eat our table scraps, so i guess we can return the favor.

[Kung-fusion]

I agree their timing suggestions are ridiculous, but so what if it is nutritionally similar to dog food? We are animals, after all. As long as the ingredients come from good sources and are good for human consumption, what does it matter? They feed lions steaks at the zoo. Does than mean I shouldn't eat steaks? People give chondroitin to their pets. Does that mean we shouldn't take it for our joints?

[cakedonkey]

Simply put:

1) that article cited no references;


2) the whole argument doesn't really hold much water whatsoever and is inherently mis-led and wrong--the nutrtion facts really aren't all that similar. further, you can't accurately compare MCTs (for example) to the fat found in cake batter. also, 25g of sugar vs. 6g is very different as well.


Not impressed.

[bbgolfer]

Originally Posted by cakedonkey

Simply put:

1) that article cited no references;


2) the whole argument doesn't really hold much water whatsoever and is inherently mis-led and wrong--the nutrtion facts really aren't all that similar. further, you can't accurately compare MCTs (for example) to the fat found in cake batter. also, 25g of sugar vs. 6g is very different as well.


Not impressed.

x2...ridiculous article. It claims the two have a very similar nutrition profile when the only thing even remotely similar is the fat, and even then they come from two completely different sources. So basically that is like saying a serving of Natty. PB is like the coldstone cake batter. This article=fail.

[deserusan]

That does not make any sense.

[cakedonkey]

Also, it's really funny how he says "look at the ingredients" and then cites the nutrition facts. It may seem like nitpicking, but it's quite far from it. Something can have identical nutrition facts and have completely different ingredients. This person is just wrong on so many levels. This "article" or whatever it is seems really thrown together to me.