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08-26-2007, 05:00 PM
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This is religious intolerance at its finest
This long (but worthwhile) article attempts to show wat would happen if America became a theocracy.
http://www.public-action.com/christmas.html
But would it be run by Christians? No. In fact, if such thing was to happen as the article states, Christians would be killed. Talk about HUGE religiuous intolerance!
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CELEBRATE "X-MAS" AND DIE
Go back to the anti-"X-mas" flier:
http://www.noahide.com/xmas.htm
I have cached the page at:
http://www.Public-Action.com/x/nh-xmas1
"A gentile . . . is liable for the death penalty . . . if he has invented a religious holiday for himself . . . The general principle is we do not allow them to make new religious rituals and to make 'mitzvahs' ["commandment;" sometimes "good deed or blessing"] for themselves by their own devices . . . if he does make some new 'mitzvah,' we lash him, punish him, and inform him that he is obligated [sic] with the death penalty for this." (Rambam Mishne Torah--Hilchose Melachim 10:9)
So Christians or non-Christian Gentiles, according to the "Rambam Mishne Torah" should be lashed, punished, and put to death if they insist on following their own religious practices, including celebration of non-Jewish religious holidays, such as Christmas.
What is the Rambam Mischne Torah? The Rambam is none other than Maimonides, the well-known Sephardic Jewish writer who lived in Spain between 1135 and 1204 AD, one of the great fathers of Judaic thought; the Mishne Torah is one of his best known works. See the "Sephardic Sages" webpage,
http://www.sephardicsages.org/rambam.html
mirrored at:
http://www.Public-Action.com/x/nh-rambam
"Maimonides [Rambam] was the author of the Mishneh Torah, one of the greatest codes of Jewish law, compiling every conceivable topic of Jewish law in subject matter order and providing a simple statement of the prevailing view in plain language. In his own time, he was widely condemned because he claimed that the Mishneh Torah was a substitute for studying the Talmud," Sephardic Sages tells us.
Maimonides is regarded as a great teacher throughout Judaism. Yet these are his words:
" . . . A gentile . . . is liable for the death penalty . . . if he has invented a religious holiday for himself. "
So to be fair to the Reeb, the idea that Christmas celebrants be put to death did not originate with him. Indeed, we need to go back further to understand the roots of the "Gentiles must be put to death" phenomena.
KILL THEM ALL
The central book in Judaism is the Talmud, which contains the teachings of the Pharisees -- those people on whom the New Testament spends so many words. Jesus called their teachings "the ways of men," an abomination, and he condemned them; for doing so, He was crucified. At the time Jesus lived and up until several hundred years after His death, we are told, the teachings of the Pharisees were not written down, but were memorized, added to, and passed around by word of mouth. This is called the "oral law."
"The Jewish religion as it is today traces its descent, without a break, through all the centuries, from the Pharisees. Their leading ideas and methods found expression in a literature of enormous extent, of which a very great deal is still in existence. The Talmud is the largest and most important single piece of literature . . . and the study of it is essential for any real understanding of Pharisaism." --Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, 1948, Vol. 8, pg. 474.
Talmudic sage R. Simon ben Yohai is quoted in the Babylonian Talmud (Megillah 12a, Yoma 76a), but his most famous quote does not appear there. The famous quote is: "Tob shebe goyyim harog." Translation: "Even the best among the Gentiles deserves to be killed."
According to the 1903 Jewish Encyclopedia, ben Yohai was an anti-Gentile "fanatic whose life experiences may furnish an explanation for his animosity." After making this excuse for the rabbi, the encyclopedia states "hence in the various versions the 'the best among the Gentiles' has generally been altered to read 'the best among the Egyptians.'"
The intention of substituting "Egyptians" for "Gentiles" in "Even the best among the Gentiles deserves to be killed" was obviously to reduce the number of Gentiles who might take offense at the statement. The lesson, however, is that the "Gentiles must be put to death" concept originated before the Reeb, and even before the Rambam. The "kill all Gentiles" concept was formulated by a Talmudic sage.
(See the 1903 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled by Isidore Singer, under the entry, "Gentile," Vol. 5, p. 617. The cite given for "Tob shebe goyyim harog" is: Yerushalmi (Jerusalem Talmud) Kiddushim 66c; Masseket Soferim xv.10; Mekilta, Beshallah 27a: Tanhuma, Wayea, ed. Buber, 20).
OTHER GENTILE HOLIDAYS
TO BE DECLARED VERBOTEN
See: "The Law Is Only a Minimum," and you will learn that observance of other Christian religious holidays constitute idolatry and will be banned. Christian holidays to be banned include:
Good Friday
Easter
Ash Wednesday
All Saints Day,
And "probably even the 'new year.'"
http://www.noahide.com/minimum.htm
mirrored at:
http://www.Public-Action.com/x/nh-minimum
SPECIAL DEAL ON ANTI X-MAS FLIERS
Later, we will learn that the "idol-worshippers" who refuse to give up their religious observances will be put to death by beheading. But for now, be aware that Jews and Hasidic Gentiles?United to Save America (JHG-USA) are offering a special discount on those anti-"X-mas" fliers. Normally they sell for 25 cents a piece -- now they are selling for 15 cents a piece. Hurry to order!
http://www.noahide.com./xmas2.htm
mirrord at:
http://www.Public-Action.com/x/nh-xmas2
;-)
THE LUBAVITCHERS ON JESUS
Bush II claims to be a Christian. Want to know what Bush's Lubavitcher friends think about Jesus? Read the "Who Was Jesus" page:
http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm
mirrored at:
http://www.Public-Action.com/x/nh-jesus
You will see that Jesus is called a "dangerous" false prophet who "repeatedly broke the Law by committing terrible sins, while openly challenging the G-d given authority of the rabbis of the Sanhedrin."
The "Who Was Jesus" page also cites the Talmud -- the references in parentheses are the specific books. The quote begins here:
The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), and was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh -- which is also explicitly banned in the Bible. (Shabbos 104b).
Such is the blasphemy against Jesus coming from the friends of Bush II. If Jesus Christ stepped into the America Bush is helping to create, Jesus would be put to death again -- by Jewish law.
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If these Lubavitchers took control of the US, the **** would hit the ****ing fan. This is why religion is a problem. If you think Muslims are extremists, wait till you read this.
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08-26-2007, 05:17 PM
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I doubt that most religious Jews would follow his example. He seems to be to Judaism as what bin Laden is to Islam or what those warm and fuzzy Westboro folk are to Christianty. Stupidity comes in all shapes, sizes, and hues.
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08-26-2007, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Hype
If you think Muslims are extremists, wait till you read this. 
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Allllllllllriiiiiiiight! Does that mean we're off the hook?!
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08-26-2007, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Purge
I doubt that most religious Jews would follow his example. He seems to be to Judaism as what bin Laden is to Islam or what those warm and fuzzy Westboro folk are to Christianty. Stupidity comes in all shapes, sizes, and hues.
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Perhaps, and perhaps not. But Westboro Baptist has no power in Congress whatsoever. Joe Lieberman and other political figures ARE Lubavitcher Jews, as the article states. And nothing that is in that ridiculous Noahide Code is actually against Talmudic principles, which all religious Jews hold dear to their hearts. The fact is that this is more likely to happen than Muslims or Christians taking power in the US. But what do I care? It's not my country. Just letting you know the possibility. Ignoring a problem will not make it go away.
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08-26-2007, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SYRIANKID
Allllllllllriiiiiiiight! Does that mean we're off the hook?! 
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From whom? To be honest I hardly ever gave a **** about what you guys did. You don't hold power in many Western nations, so to me you're practically nonexistent.
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