To those of you who really know what your talking about.

[abar]

Originally Posted by Basil08

1) on a re-feed, is eating sugar, such as those found in a kiddy cereal or flavored yogurt be any different than any other carbs.

It's fine. It does have a bunch of sucrose, which is half fructose, so keep that in mind. Lots of people have successful carb loads eating kiddie cereals.

2) I know to include fruit as the last part of the re-feed, or not at all, due to pro-longed non-keto state it applies on the liver, however, what about lactose from products such as yogurt and milk? if they are "ok", is there a prefered time to eat them (begining of carb-up, middle, end)

Lactose is partly fructose, so don't make these the majority of your carbs.

3) I have found that rather than increasing my fat intake to 60-70% of my caloric intake i have flipped the macros towards protein, i prefer a "high protein, moderate fat" approach, in which i am still triggering a ketosis state to occur (i can tell becuase my urine can kill a small animal at the moment). has anyone else tried this? what results are you getting?

Yea, look at the UD2.0...

4) HIT has been quite a success with me, how about it on Ketosis?

Do you mean HIIT, ie intervals?

5) Sugar alcohols - on a re-feed (as this is the only time i would dare touch this sort of thing), would you count these by dividing them in half? (due to only half of them being absorbed by the body

Why the hell are you eating sugar alcohols on a carb load?

6) Is the soul purpose of a "re-feed" or "carb-up" to retain muscle that may be lost on this diet?

Not the sole purpose, no.

If so, would a large increase in protein suffice to repair and pro-long the muscle wasting proporties of a keto diet ("protein-up" more or less) due to the body's abillity to breakdown protein molecules for another source of energy. If so, i would much rather choose this alternative, than the traditional "carb-up", for the reason that it would allow my body to stay into ketosis.

Yea, generally if you eat more protein you spare more muscle. I think you just argued yourself into more of a PSMF or SKD approach, iirc.

I do appologize for the some of the questions that may have been asked before, i have read through countless article upon article of ketosis and it has answered everything i have to question except for the above. Please explain your reply.

Try buying The Ketogenic Diet by Lyle McDonald. It has all the physiology you'd want (fully referenced), although it is a bit dated.

[Basil08]

Just a few Q's.

1) on a re-feed, is eating sugar, such as those found in a kiddy cereal or flavored yogurt be any different than any other carbs.

2) I know to include fruit as the last part of the re-feed, or not at all, due to pro-longed non-keto state it applies on the liver, however, what about lactose from products such as yogurt and milk? if they are "ok", is there a prefered time to eat them (begining of carb-up, middle, end)

3) I have found that rather than increasing my fat intake to 60-70% of my caloric intake i have flipped the macros towards protein, i prefer a "high protein, moderate fat" approach, in which i am still triggering a ketosis state to occur (i can tell becuase my urine can kill a small animal at the moment). has anyone else tried this? what results are you getting?

4) HIT has been quite a success with me, how about it on Ketosis?

5) Sugar alcohols - on a re-feed (as this is the only time i would dare touch this sort of thing), would you count these by dividing them in half? (due to only half of them being absorbed by the body

6) Is the soul purpose of a "re-feed" or "carb-up" to retain muscle that may be lost on this diet? If so, would a large increase in protein suffice to repair and pro-long the muscle wasting proporties of a keto diet ("protein-up" more or less) due to the body's abillity to breakdown protein molecules for another source of energy. If so, i would much rather choose this alternative, than the traditional "carb-up", for the reason that it would allow my body to stay into ketosis.

I do appologize for the some of the questions that may have been asked before, i have read through countless article upon article of ketosis and it has answered everything i have to question except for the above. Please explain your reply.

[Basil08]

Originally Posted by abar

It's fine. It does have a bunch of sucrose, which is half fructose, so keep that in mind. Lots of people have successful carb loads eating kiddie cereals.



Lactose is partly fructose, so don't make these the majority of your carbs.



Yea, look at the UD2.0...



Do you mean HIIT, ie intervals?



Why the hell are you eating sugar alcohols on a carb load?



Not the sole purpose, no.



Yea, generally if you eat more protein you spare more muscle. I think you just argued yourself into more of a PSMF or SKD approach, iirc.



Try buying The Ketogenic Diet by Lyle McDonald. It has all the physiology you'd want (fully referenced), although it is a bit dated.

Thankks man, anyone else? (although that did pretty much answer everything...)