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*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise with the deeds which he had done even if those deeds were few.
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*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise with the deeds which he had done even if those deeds were few.
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The answer is easy. God loves us all.
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Stop giving Christians a bad name with your inconsistency.
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The proper study of Mankind is Man.
He hangs between; in doubt to act, or rest;
In doubt to deem himself a God, or Beast;
Born but to die, and reas'ning but to err;
Whether he thinks to little, or too much;
Chaos of Thought and Passion, all confus'd;
Created half to rise and half to fall;
Great Lord of all things, yet a prey to all,
Sole judge of truth, in endless error hurl'd;
The glory, jest and riddle of the world.
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08-15-2007, 04:11 AM
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I don't know what you are claiming. Please flesh it out. Where is the "inconsistency"?
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08-15-2007, 04:13 AM
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I don't know what you are claiming. Please flesh it out. Where is the "inconsistency"?
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I repeat: " Please"!
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08-15-2007, 04:21 AM
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I don't know what you are claiming. Please flesh it out. Where is the "inconsistency"?
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I believe you should at least act the way you right. You talk about love and how God loves everyone, yet here we see you bashing muslims and what better way to do it then use the "anti-semite" card.
That doesn't show any love what so ever. I guess if Jesus was here he would go up to SK and tell him "Fuk you idiot anti-semitic muslims.....I hate you for hating the people who killed me"
Seriously you are the reason why Christians have a bad name.
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Know then thyself, presume not God to scan
The proper study of Mankind is Man.
He hangs between; in doubt to act, or rest;
In doubt to deem himself a God, or Beast;
Born but to die, and reas'ning but to err;
Whether he thinks to little, or too much;
Chaos of Thought and Passion, all confus'd;
Created half to rise and half to fall;
Great Lord of all things, yet a prey to all,
Sole judge of truth, in endless error hurl'd;
The glory, jest and riddle of the world.
-Alexander Pope
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08-15-2007, 04:28 AM
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I believe you should at least act the way you right. You talk about love and how God loves everyone, yet here we see you bashing muslims and what better way to do it then use the "anti-semite" card.
That doesn't show any love what so ever. I guess if Jesus was here he would go up to SK and tell him "Fuk you idiot anti-semitic muslims.....I hate you for hating the people who killed me"
Seriously you are the reason why Christians have a bad name.
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No we don't "have a bad name" except in your narrow view of the world. My providing reality about the moslems' beliefs was in direct response to the false claims that jews and christians are "bad" or have done the moslems wrong. That you want to go unanswered in posting such crappola is to be expected, but even a God-hater like you doesn't seriously think we saints have to not respond to your lies. Sorry but you will not get away with that. Neither should you have to ask for that if you truly have any confidence in your beliefs.
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08-15-2007, 04:32 AM
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I don't know what you are claiming. Please flesh it out. Where is the "inconsistency"?
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No we don't "have a bad name" except in your narrow view of the world. My providing reality about the moslems' beliefs was in direct response to the false claims that jews and christians are "bad" or have done the moslems wrong. That you want to go unanswered in posting such crappola is to be expected, but even a God-hater like you doesn't seriously think we saints have to not respond to your lies. Sorry but you will not get away with that. Neither should you have to ask for that if you truly have any confidence in your beliefs.
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Dude you are brainwashed.
I just want to point out to everyone who might be reading this. "nonatlas" is by no means an icon of Christianity.
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Know then thyself, presume not God to scan
The proper study of Mankind is Man.
He hangs between; in doubt to act, or rest;
In doubt to deem himself a God, or Beast;
Born but to die, and reas'ning but to err;
Whether he thinks to little, or too much;
Chaos of Thought and Passion, all confus'd;
Created half to rise and half to fall;
Great Lord of all things, yet a prey to all,
Sole judge of truth, in endless error hurl'd;
The glory, jest and riddle of the world.
-Alexander Pope
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08-15-2007, 04:34 AM
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you are brainwashed.
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Right. Speaking truth results only from "brainwashing". 
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I just want to point out to everyone who might be reading this. "nonatlas" is by no means an icon of Christianity.
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Okay. As if you would know. 
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08-15-2007, 04:38 AM
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Okay. As if you would know. |
ummm ya Im a christian myself. But unlike you I chose my brain over my brainwashed "cult". 
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Know then thyself, presume not God to scan
The proper study of Mankind is Man.
He hangs between; in doubt to act, or rest;
In doubt to deem himself a God, or Beast;
Born but to die, and reas'ning but to err;
Whether he thinks to little, or too much;
Chaos of Thought and Passion, all confus'd;
Created half to rise and half to fall;
Great Lord of all things, yet a prey to all,
Sole judge of truth, in endless error hurl'd;
The glory, jest and riddle of the world.
-Alexander Pope
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08-15-2007, 04:40 AM
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ummm ya Im a christian myself. But unlike you I chose my brain over my brainwashed "cult". |
Oh really? Then maybe you will attempt to point out what is real "christian" beliefs and how you are the definition of such. And then of course you will attempt to prove your claims about me.
Of course you will...not.
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08-15-2007, 04:50 AM
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well, muslim today are like that because many reasons.
If you want to see there was many betrayal throughout islam as well as abuse from non-muslims or muslims themselves.
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well, muslim today are like that because many reasons.
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Only one reason matters. Namely that is what their "holy book" tells them to believe/do.
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08-15-2007, 04:57 AM
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Only one reason matters. Namely that is what their "holy book" tells them to believe/do.
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I am a muslim, I belive the Quran.
are you are christian? Islam,Judsim and Christianity believe in the same God. It has one message but for the Torah and the bible it been changed the message.
I would talk about christianity because i know more about it that judism. In christianity you pray for the holy sprite and Jesus, you ask for them to help and mercy...etc it like a middle man to God. But God does not need a middle man. He listens to you and knows what you want because he created you
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08-15-2007, 05:01 AM
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looks like the hillbillies are out today.
"moslemism"
lol
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08-15-2007, 05:06 AM
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I am a muslim, I belive the Quran.
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Great, but no one can force you to believe the entire Koran.
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are you are christian? Islam,Judsim and Christianity believe in the same God.
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They do not. Jews and christians believe the one true God. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel. Isaac was the covenant child; Ishmael was Abram's illegitimate kid who was driven away according to God's command. Also Abram became Abraham only when Isaac was promised to him.
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It has one message but for the Torah and the bible it been changed the message.
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The Koran is a completely different document, and your claim assumes a senseless view of what you call "god". Namely it assumes that God didn't know what He really was saying when He promised the jews all that He did thousands of years before He supposedly gave your "prophet" those "revelations". Imagine a "god" who admits he got it wrong on the first try and had to change his mind before speaking to your non-prophet in the seventh century, which was 600 years after God walked the earth as the jews' Messiah.
That confused "god" is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel. Your "god" and our God are not the same guy.
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I would talk about christianity because i know more about it that judism. In christianity you pray for the holy sprite and Jesus, you ask for them to help and mercy...etc it like a middle man to God. But God does not need a middle man. He listens to you and knows what you want because he created you
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You got it completely wrong. Holy Ghost IS God, and God is one God in three Persons. Your "allah" is the moon god of the pagans whom your "prophet" had to appease to convert them to his beliefs.
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looks like the hillbillies are out today.
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Step away from the mirror.
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You can't be 1 God in three persons, that means 1 God splits himself into three.
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Step away from the mirror.
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Yes..I see your reflection behind me...
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You can't be 1 God in three persons, that means 1 God splits himself into three.
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Nope. It means God is God.
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Yes..I see your reflection behind me...
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Sorry but I'm not into that kind of action. Better keep looking.
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Sorry but I'm not into that kind of action. Better keep looking. |
haha...im not gay.....
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My statement of fact was confusing to you? Well, I guess you have confirmed why you can't be expected to understand God. You refuse to defer to Him and you deny that He is who He is. You put God into a box, denying that He can do what He can do and insisting that He can do only what humans can do. As such you deny that He is God, because He doesn't have to be limited by the parameters that define our existence as His creations.
That failure to understand also proves that the God of the jews and christians is NOT the "god" of moslemism. Thanks for making that so clear.
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Great, but no one can force you to believe the entire Koran.
They do not. Jews and christians believe the one true God. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel. Isaac was the covenant child; Ishmael was Abram's illegitimate kid who was driven away according to God's command. Also Abram became Abraham only when Isaac was promised to him..
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They do, in Islam there are something you have to believe in that makes you a muslim.
1- In only one God
2- in his prophet
3- In the books he brough down ( that means the Torah and Bible)
4- In destiny
5- Heaven and Hell
Ibrahim was the father of Arab, he had two wife Hajira and Sarah. Hajra was where all the arab come from.
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The Koran is a completely different document, and your claim assumes a senseless view of what you call "god". Namely it assumes that God didn't know what He really was saying when He promised the jews all that He did thousands of years before He supposedly gave your "prophet" those "revelations". Imagine a "god" who admits he got it wrong on the first try and had to change his mind before speaking to your non-prophet in the seventh century, which was 600 years after God walked the earth as the jews' Messiah..
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God didnt make any mistake. He gave Bani Israel many thing but still many refuse to follow the path of God. He gave them streaghth and drowned the pharoah but still after that some started not to believe in God when Mossas went to left them for awhile
Beni Israel knew about the prophet, it was mentioned in the Torah as well as the bible long time ago. But they didnt expect it to come from them instead it came from the arab which many consider them as dumb and savages.
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That confused "god" is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel. Your "god" and our God are not the same guy.
You got it completely wrong. Holy Ghost IS God, and God is one God in three Persons. Your "allah" is the moon god of the pagans whom your "prophet" had to appease to convert them to his beliefs.
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1- Arab never believe in the moon, The believed in the God as well as the statues which where like God
2- how could three become one ? and if Jesus is God why human? human have limitation? Humans are born dont they and God doesnt
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They do, in Islam there are something you have to believe in that makes you a muslim.
1- In only one God
2- in his prophet
3- In the books he brough down ( that means the Torah and Bible)
4- In destiny
5- Heaven and Hell
Ibrahim was the father of Arab, he had two wife Hajira and Sarah. Hajra was where all the arab come from.
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No. Abram had one wife, who was Sarah. Her servant Hagar was an egyptian who bore him Ishmael, the illegitimate kid who was driven away. He was not yet "Abraham" when Ish was excreted by Hagar, and he became Abraham just prior to the birth of Isaac, the covenant child.
Your point 3 makes no sense, because moslemism hates the jews, the christians and the Word of God. The Koran if full of contradictions that define the difference between their "god" and the actual God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel.
There is no "destiny". There is only God's way and unrighteousness, which is the refusal to accept God the Son. You can do that only via the Bible, which is the literal Word of God and the path to such salvation. In moslemism you have to "earn" salvation; in the Bible there is no such possibility, because we all are incapable of earning salvation.
Christians believe in only one God.
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My statement of fact was confusing to you? Well, I guess you have confirmed why you can't be expected to understand God. You refuse to defer to Him and you deny that He is who He is. You put God into a box, denying that He can do what He can do and insisting that He can do only what humans can do. As such you deny that He is God, because He doesn't have to be limited by the parameters that define our existence as His creations.
That failure to understand also proves that the God of the jews and christians is NOT the "god" of moslemism. Thanks for making that so clear.
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NO YOU are the one who is defying what God can do, God does not have to be three!
He is God why would He need to take the form of three?
He can do anything.
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"defying"? No I am not. I am the person who takes Him at His word. You deny that He is who He is: Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
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Who says He is three? Not we who are saved. He is one God in three Persons.
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He is God why would He need to take the form of three?
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"need to"?  He is who He is, and only YOU attempt to dictate to Him what He can or cannot do. He is one God in three Persons, and your refusal to accept that proves that your pagan "god" is not He.
Not so. He can't lie or sin, and He can't change His mind.
For I am the LORD; I change not;
Malachi 3:6
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"defying"? No I am not. I am the person who takes Him at His word. You deny that He is who He is: Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
Who says He is three? Not we who are saved. He is one God in three Persons.
"need to"? He is who He is, and only YOU attempt to dictate to Him what He can or cannot do. He is one God in three Persons, and your refusal to accept that proves that your pagan "god" is not He.
Not so. He can't lie or sin, and He can't change His mind.
For I am the LORD; I change not;
Malachi 3:6
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God can't do anything He wants?
yeah...ok.
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