George W. Bush is a great man, and should be addressed with respect.

Submitted2God · 08-13-2007, 12:56 PM

I know most of you dont like him, but hes a God damn president. He deserves the respect for it.

You might blame him for EVERYTHING THATS GOING WRONG in and outside U.S, but think about it, do you think those are his decisions ?

He is just a person appointed to WORK. He does not makes his own decisions based on his personal thoughts.

Theres a whole think tank behind it. Theres the senate, the ministries etc etc.

He was not the one who initiated the Iraq work.

It was what was on the Presidential Agenda when he was appointed.

Do you think a President builds dams, or builds more hospitals or orders does something major in the country because he WANTS TO ?

HELL NO

Whatever is done is done whats on the Presidential Agenda.

Fortunately or Unfortunately Bush was appointed when the Agenda highlighted the Afghan and Iraq war.

You guys think none of this would have happend if Al Gore came ? or lets say by any miracle Clinton was to stay for another 4 years ?

NOPE. Whats happening under Bush administration would have happend under Al-Gora or Clinton or X Y Z administrations aswell.

Clipto19 · 08-13-2007, 12:58 PM

George bush said he doesnt think atheists shouldnt be considered US citizens or something along that.. he gets no respect from me.

JUSA · 08-13-2007, 12:59 PM

I think the office of the President should afford a person a level of respect, but that hasn't happened since Bush the Elder.

As for Bush being a great man... simply being President doesn't make you great (see: Carter, Jimmy).

People probably should lay off the Nazi crap and overblowing what a "moron" he is, but I doubt most think he's that good...

JUSA · 08-13-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipto19

George bush said he doesnt think atheists shouldnt be considered US citizens or something along that.. he gets no respect from me.

I'm sure he's very upset about that, too. Btw, most smart people can distinguish between someone and their father (and even then you're wrong).

Gadsden · 08-13-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipto19

George bush said he doesnt think atheists shouldnt be considered US citizens or something along that.. he gets no respect from me.

that was his father, dumbass.

OP: he's a president, not a king.

I don't disrespect him, but I'm not a fan either.

Rumple4skin · 08-13-2007, 01:05 PM

Gore wouldnt of signed bills into law like the "clear skies initiative" and the "healthy forrest initiative" which actually allowed for more pollution and more destruction of forrest. Bush is an very decietful and misleads our country. He bull****ted our country into a completely unjust war thats wasted thousands of lives. But i guess thats part of his pro-life stand huh?

Gadsden · 08-13-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny USA

Btw, most smart people can distinguish between someone and their father.

wow supreme ownage

Clipto19 · 08-13-2007, 01:09 PM

all christians are brainwashed so what the **** is your point again? Thats what I thought.

Gadsden · 08-13-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipto19

all christians are brainwashed so what the **** is your point again? Thats what I thought.

wtf does that have to do with ANYTHING?

Clipto19 · 08-13-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

wtf does that have to do with ANYTHING?

they are idiots their selfs? no room to talk.

alicairo · 08-13-2007, 01:20 PM

I mean hey.. don't hate me but..
the guy has a valid point
we should respect our President(s)
doesn't matter who they are..

unless they're 'legally' removed from office you know, what else can we do ? that's part of the foundation of our Government ...

so yea.. it's not long now & we'll have someone new maybe someone we can all agree we Respect

DigitalMuscle · 08-13-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Submitted2God

I know most of you dont like him, but hes a God damn president. He deserves the respect for it.

You might blame him for EVERYTHING THATS GOING WRONG in and outside U.S, but think about it, do you think those are his decisions ?

He is just a person appointed to WORK. He does not makes his own decisions based on his personal thoughts.

Theres a whole think tank behind it. Theres the senate, the ministries etc etc.

He was not the one who initiated the Iraq work.

It was what was on the Presidential Agenda when he was appointed.

Do you think a President builds dams, or builds more hospitals or orders does something major in the country because he WANTS TO ?

HELL NO

Whatever is done is done whats on the Presidential Agenda.

Fortunately or Unfortunately Bush was appointed when the Agenda highlighted the Afghan and Iraq war.

You guys think none of this would have happend if Al Gore came ? or lets say by any miracle Clinton was to stay for another 4 years ?

NOPE. Whats happening under Bush administration would have happend under Al-Gora or Clinton or X Y Z administrations aswell.

Hitler was once the leader of Germany show some respect for Hitler, by gosh he was a leader. Support Hitler he was once a leader. Sarcasim!

JUSA · 08-13-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle

Hitler was once the leader of Germany show some respect for Hitler, by gosh he was a leader. Support Hitler he was once a leader. Sarcasim!

That's some fine sarcasim there, DM.

JUSA · 08-13-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipto19

they are idiots their selfs? no room to talk.

I think Bush Sr was right about atheists, but only so far as you in particular are concerned.

daniel77 · 08-13-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipto19

George bush said he doesnt think atheists shouldnt be considered US citizens or something along that.. he gets no respect from me.

You are not even sure who said what...but you hate someone for it.

DigitalMuscle · 08-13-2007, 01:31 PM

respect is earned not given freely.

hounds · 08-13-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Submitted2God

I know most of you dont like him, but hes a God damn president. He deserves the respect for it.

No. Just because he has "president" in front of his name doesn't mean he must be respected, especially if he's a supreme f**k up

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Originally Posted by Submitted2God

NOPE. Whats happening under Bush administration would have happend under Al-Gora or Clinton or X Y Z administrations aswell.

Read PNAC. The Bush administration was dead set on invading Iraq from day one. Its not liberal vs conservative, if John McCain was elected in 2000 we wouldnt be in this ****storm....

EDIT: what is this mysterious presidential agendayou speak of that apparently is followed by both parties no matter who is elected? (no conspiracy)

Gadsden · 08-13-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipto19

they are idiots their selfs? no room to talk.

can you speak English?

Clipto19 · 08-13-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel77

You are not even sure who said what...but you hate someone for it.

I never said I hated bush because I dont. I admit I was mistaken earlier but bush is still a christian and a sinner! all christians I know are sinners. biggest hypocrites I know.

HELIX35 · 08-13-2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumple4skin

Gore wouldnt of signed bills into law like the "clear skies initiative" and the "healthy forrest initiative" which actually allowed for more pollution and more destruction of forrest. Bush is an very decietful and misleads our country. He bull****ted our country into a completely unjust war thats wasted thousands of lives. But i guess thats part of his pro-life stand huh?

Because those didn't have to go through the house or senate or anything. Nope, he just wrote em up and signed the suckers.

Gadsden · 08-13-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipto19

bush is still a christian and a sinner! all christians I know are sinners. biggest hypocrites I know.

find one Christian who claims not to sin.

being Christian is in part recognizing that you sin, not that you never do.

NuggzTheNinja · 08-13-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HELIX35

Because those didn't have to go through the house or senate or anything. Nope, he just wrote em up and signed the suckers.

Have ya seen Congress' approval ratings lately?

daniel77 · 08-13-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipto19

I never said I hated bush because I dont. I admit I was mistaken earlier but bush is still a christian and a sinner! all christians I know are sinners. biggest hypocrites I know.

How can you be against something (christianity) you clearly no nothing about? I am not trying to start an e-fight with you, that is a legitimate question. To say christians are hypocrites because they sin shows you do not have the first clue what you are talking about. All I am saying is do some studying up on something you seem to have this deep hatred for, yet dont know why you should hate it...talk about following someone elses footsteps.

samian · 08-13-2007, 02:05 PM

Iraq is a shambles, we all accept that.
And rather than blindly support a leader I prefer something called ACCOUNTABILITY.

We were mislead into a war that will trouble us for a while to come.
Granted, support your country, educate yourself and vote well, without doubt support your country's troops abroard, but criticise your government ruthlessly!

If power corrupts I believe strong scrutiny and a storng opposition is the antidote.

BTW partially agrew with OP.. respect is nessecary too.

adilrockstar · 08-13-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Submitted2God

I know most of you dont like him, but hes a God damn president. He deserves the respect for it.

You might blame him for EVERYTHING THATS GOING WRONG in and outside U.S, but think about it, do you think those are his decisions ?

He is just a person appointed to WORK. He does not makes his own decisions based on his personal thoughts.

Theres a whole think tank behind it. Theres the senate, the ministries etc etc.

He was not the one who initiated the Iraq work.

It was what was on the Presidential Agenda when he was appointed.

Do you think a President builds dams, or builds more hospitals or orders does something major in the country because he WANTS TO ?

HELL NO

Whatever is done is done whats on the Presidential Agenda.

Fortunately or Unfortunately Bush was appointed when the Agenda highlighted the Afghan and Iraq war.

You guys think none of this would have happend if Al Gore came ? or lets say by any miracle Clinton was to stay for another 4 years ?

NOPE. Whats happening under Bush administration would have happend under Al-Gora or Clinton or X Y Z administrations aswell.

First off George Bush is President because we voted Him into office. He only deserves the respect that we want to give him. I cannot stand him. I believe that he is a liar and a murderer. I respect the position of President but I do not respect the President in office. He is the worst President in the History of the US.

Clipto19 · 08-13-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel77

How can you be against something (christianity) you clearly no nothing about? I am not trying to start an e-fight with you, that is a legitimate question. To say christians are hypocrites because they sin shows you do not have the first clue what you are talking about. All I am saying is do some studying up on something you seem to have this deep hatred for, yet dont know why you should hate it...talk about following someone elses footsteps.

christians are the biggest murderers out there. hardly a religion of peace. christianity should be renamed into "the true devil worshiping"

bruno · 08-13-2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle

Hitler was once the leader of Germany show some respect for Hitler, by gosh he was a leader. Support Hitler he was once a leader. Sarcasim!

you have to admit, while even though what hitler did was wrong, he was extremely succesful and transformed a nation from the dumps to the top. He gets my respect for that. some of the ways he did it and such, I might disagree with though, but face it, it worked for him, and it took a hell of a lot to take him down

Etienne · 08-13-2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipto19

christians are the biggest murderers out there. hardly a religion of peace. christianity should be renamed into "the true devil worshiping"

That may have been true at one point in history.

Unfortunately our buddies in the Far East have taken that crown.

bruno · 08-13-2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Clipto19

christians are the biggest murderers out there. hardly a religion of peace. christianity should be renamed into "the true devil worshiping"

that is for another thread entirely. This thread is simply about bush and respect and disrespect for him. leave religion aside

adilrockstar · 08-13-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bruno

you have to admit, while even though what hitler did was wrong, he was extremely succesful and transformed a nation from the dumps to the top. He gets my respect for that. some of the ways he did it and such, I might disagree with though, but face it, it worked for him, and it took a hell of a lot to take him down

You forgot the part where Germany was defeated.