Do ben't over Rows widen your back?

ThatArmyKid · 08-09-2007, 04:48 PM

Wondering becaus ei don't do many pull downs/pullups just chin ups on wesdnesday and monday/friday i do BB bent over Rows so am still working for on my back width with bentover Rows?

SwoleX · 08-09-2007, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatArmyKid

Wondering becaus ei don't do many pull downs/pullups just chin ups on wesdnesday and monday/friday i do BB bent over Rows so am still working for on my back width with bentover Rows?

Rows add thickness, pullups/chinups add width.

2 HUGE · 08-09-2007, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SwoleX

Rows add thickness, pullups/chinups add width.

Id have to agree with that

crofty22 · 08-09-2007, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SwoleX

Rows add thickness, pullups/chinups add width.

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If you are only doing rows in your back routine you will not gain much width.

W8isGR8 · 08-09-2007, 04:55 PM

So if your lats get bigger, they won't get wider?

Flex500 · 08-09-2007, 05:00 PM

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Wondering becaus ei don't do many pull downs/pullups just chin ups on wesdnesday and monday/friday i do BB bent over Rows so am still working for on my back width with bentover Rows?

it's a common thought that pulldown/pullup type movements widen the back while rows thicken the back.

To an extent it may be true, somewhat. But in general rows will help make your back bigger. If your back is getting bigger aka your lats are growing, I assure you they will get wider.

ThatArmyKid · 08-09-2007, 05:01 PM

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If you are only doing rows in your back routine you will not gain much width.

i do 3 full body workouts a week

So they don't widen your back damm that sucks

ThatArmyKid · 08-09-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Flex500

it's a common thought that pulldown/pullup type movements widen the back while rows thicken the back.

To an extent it may be true, somewhat. But in general rows will help make your back bigger. If your back is getting bigger aka your lats are growing, I assure you they will get wider.

my back is pretty ripped and i would like to add alot of thickness and overall mass to it and my whole body so i'm going to continue Rowing twice a week and deadlifting/chins once a week. what you said makes perfect sense

Mark1T · 08-09-2007, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by W8isGR8

So if your lats get bigger, they won't get wider?

Yup, you'll just end up looking like a block of cheese

Blane/Cope · 08-09-2007, 05:13 PM

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i do 3 full body workouts a week

So they don't widen your back damm that sucks

doing rows will not hurt your back development......leave them in

MesoPeaks · 08-09-2007, 05:15 PM

lat pulls are for the width

Rows for thickness

ow wait, I already know this, i didn't copy the post above

Try to examine the form of that exercise and see for yourself the true benefits

W8isGR8 · 08-09-2007, 05:19 PM

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Yup, you'll just end up looking like a block of cheese

Sweet, so how would I get my pecs thicker? Not wider, just thicker. I want them to grow straight out from my chest without getting any wider. How would I do that?

Mark1T · 08-09-2007, 05:22 PM

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Sweet, so how would I get my pecs thicker? Not wider, just thicker. I want them to grow straight out from my chest without getting any wider. How would I do that?

One-armed-five-finger pushups should do it. But, make sure you work on form, k?

ThatArmyKid · 08-09-2007, 05:23 PM

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Sweet, so how would I get my pecs thicker? Not wider, just thicker. I want them to grow straight out from my chest without getting any wider. How would I do that?

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Yup, you'll just end up looking like a block of cheese

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Originally Posted by Blane/Cope

doing rows will not hurt your back development......leave them in

lol you guys are funny

ill keep them in my workout i do them 3x5, 1x8-12 trying to progress everyworkout i'm still able to progress almost every workout which is good

W8isGR8 · 08-09-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark1T

One-armed-five-finger pushups should do it. But, make sure you work on form, k?

How about wider but not thicker? I want my chest to look like a large thin crust pizza....

ThatArmyKid · 08-09-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark1T

One-armed-five-finger pushups should do it. But, make sure you work on form, k?

one arm 6 finger push ups work better

Mark1T · 08-09-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by W8isGR8

How about wider but not thicker? I want my chest to look like a large thin crust pizza....

Reverse Nipple Lunges, or RNL. You have to do them at home though, because if you did them at teh gym, you'd be thrown out and arrested because no one really understands the legitimate use of Baby Oil (no Johnson).

ThatArmyKid · 08-09-2007, 05:34 PM

Wait so this mean chins/pullups add thickness too?

W8isGR8 · 08-09-2007, 05:35 PM

*bangs face against keyboard*

SwoleX · 08-09-2007, 05:38 PM

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Wait so this mean chins/pullups add thickness too?

Yes.. but if you're talking optimally rows add thickness and pullups/chinups add width. There's going to be overlaps in activated muscle groups for all back exercises so you can't just say x does this y does that, but for the most they do.

Mark1T · 08-09-2007, 05:39 PM

ThatArmyKid · 08-09-2007, 05:44 PM

Thanks for thew answers lmao i'm tearing right now...

how come people in this section are so cool and know there ****

W8isGR8 · 08-09-2007, 05:45 PM

Rows invove a greater amount of scapular retraction and lumbar stabalization, therefore the trapezius and spinal erectors are hit more, causing "thickness"

Pull-ups are more adduction of the arm which is a lat/teres dominated movement, which tends to build up the area near the armpit causing "width"

The actuall difference in stimulation to the lats has more to do with grip width and line of pull. For example, a wide grip row will hit more upper fibers, technically making it a "width" move, where as close grip sternum chins hit the belly of the lats making it more "thickness"

In conclusion; most of you people don't know ****, and need to quit parroting others in an attempt to sound knowledgable.

W8isGR8 · 08-09-2007, 05:46 PM

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Thanks for thew answers lmao i'm tearing right now...

how come people in this section are so cool and know there ****

It's the exercise section. We actually work out.

ThatArmyKid · 08-09-2007, 05:49 PM

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It's the exercise section. We actually work out.

i workout sometimes maybe 3 times a year and also i'm on a half cup of steroids

SwoleX · 08-09-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by W8isGR8

Rows invove a greater amount of scapular retraction and lumbar stabalization, therefore the trapezius and spinal erectors are hit more, causing "thickness"

Pull-ups are more adduction of the arm which is a lat/teres dominated movement, which tends to build up the area near the armpit causing "width"

The actuall difference in stimulation to the lats has more to do with grip width and line of pull. For example, a wide grip row will hit more upper fibers, technically making it a "width" move, where as close grip sternum chins hit the belly of the lats making it more "thickness"

In conclusion; most of you people don't know ****, and need to quit parroting others in an attempt to sound knowledgable.

So you were born with this knowledge?

SparkyD · 08-09-2007, 06:00 PM

personally in my opinion the whole chins/pulls add width and rows add thickness is bollocks, I think they work lats equally which grows as a whole (adding width and thickness) and the reason people think chins/pulls add width to lats is because they work the rhomboids and teres major/minor more which would make you wider, like I said just my opinion though.