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08-08-2007, 07:09 AM
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DNP: Dosing at Night
Hi all,
A question for those of you who have first hand experience with DNP.
This will be my third cycle, I intend to run for 12 days and would like to know if anyone has had experience with the following strategy. (yes yes... I know all about the dangers and other additional supplements to be taken.... Im on it... and more! :-)
On my previous two cycles I have taken both tablets in the morning straight after my workout. Roughly 3-4 hour after that is when the sides for me are the most apparent. Chronic Fatigue sets in. Being in a work and office environment not so fun. I would like to know what anyones thoughts are for changing this up a bit....
Taking either one tablet straight after my workout at 8.00am. Then taking the other at 8.00pm which is 2 hours before I go to sleep. Thus relieving intense sides during the day????
Or better yet taking both at the same time before I go to sleep????
My concerns with 2 tabs at night would be dehydration, even though Im sucking back buckets of water during the day. I do however wake up during the night atleast 2 to go pee and generally drink water then anyway, so I will just make sure I drink even more. Yes? No? maybe?
Is it just me or does anyone think sides are "somewhat" reduced via this approach? Being winter now for us here sleeping is not a problem. I crash on this stuff anyway.
My tabs are 150 (not 200) caps powdered dnp each.
Essentially the build up will be the same yes? I think Im confusing myself... If I split the dose I will be taking every 12 hours as apposed to every 24 hours?? although its lower dosages its safer?
thanks in advance....
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08-08-2007, 07:22 AM
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mourning the lost *Gabby*
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please delete your post, I'll private message you about it.
DNP is to strong of a substance and has to many things that can go wrong. The noobs on this site will read this and think of taking it.
like i said please delete your thread because we don't need anyone to die over losing fat. Which some have with the use of DNP without proper knowledge. and as you know everyone that wants to learn comes here. So respect the people that have died on this substance. and talk to me over PM only
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08-08-2007, 07:40 AM
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Personally I think at 300mg a day you would be fine taking it at night, but I have the same worries of dehydrating or overheating at night. They may be a little overblown because if I sweat enough at night to dangerously dehydrate me I think it would wake me up, same with the heat. I started this cycle at 500 a day and on the second week went to 750. I must say at 750 the sides are quite noticeable! I take one cap first thing in the AM, a second right around lunch and the third when I get home about 6ish.
Of course everyone is different as you well know so just be careful. Btw, I just caught up on your log and it was a good read. Keep up the good work.
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08-08-2007, 07:47 AM
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this thread is going to get locked or deleted so fast
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Originally Posted by Fritobandito
Personally I think at 300mg a day you would be fine taking it at night, but I have the same worries of dehydrating or overheating at night. They may be a little overblown because if I sweat enough at night to dangerously dehydrate me I think it would wake me up, same with the heat. I started this cycle at 500 a day and on the second week went to 750. I must say at 750 the sides are quite noticeable! I take one cap first thing in the AM, a second right around lunch and the third when I get home about 6ish.
Of course everyone is different as you well know so just be careful. Btw, I just caught up on your log and it was a good read. Keep up the good work.
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my log or his?
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08-08-2007, 08:05 AM
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Well I was a little reckless when I did DNP and instead of split dosing in the evening I was taking doses up to 600mg at once in the morning after waking, yes it was very bad. So I?m not sure all the sides but I found pretty easy to sleep I just slept on top of the bed on a towel :P
But I researched everything but the dosing times until after it was I realised how I should have taken it.
And no DNP isn't for you if you haven't been at this a long time and cutted the hard way several times.
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08-08-2007, 08:30 AM
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OP, you have like a hundred questions in your post! What exactly are you asking?!? LOL
Personally, I would do the first dose in the AM after eating something. The second dose I would do in the afternoon, right after lunch. If there is a third dose (wow!), I would take it in the evening, right after dinner.
This is what I do. For the first two doses, that is. I don't have a third one.
So I guess, if you're taking a large dose, break it up throughout the day, but if you're taking a smaller dose, you can do it all at once.
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08-08-2007, 08:33 AM
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i would split it up
1 in the morning, 1 at night
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08-08-2007, 09:14 AM
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I was reading your log PG, should have clarified that. I do agree that it is a potentially dangerous substance and like anything we discuss in the steroid section one should do plenty of research before using it. Death is irreversible.
I think he has a legitimate question in asking if 300 mg is to much to take at once, and in my opinion if he is tolerating 300 in split dosages, and it is not his first cycle, and has done his research then he will probably be ok.
Just my $.02
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08-08-2007, 09:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritobandito
I was reading your log PG, should have clarified that. I do agree that it is a potentially dangerous substance and like anything we discuss in the steroid section one should do plenty of research before using it. Death is irreversible.
I think he has a legitimate question in asking if 300 mg is to much to take at once, and in my opinion if he is tolerating 300 in split dosages, and it is not his first cycle, and has done his research then he will probably be ok.
Just my $.02
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x2 bro i agree.
its just that the mod ctgblue PM'd me about me sharing info with a user. This user does have a better knowledge about it but i was just looking out. Like he told me. The last thing we need is the Media/Parent(s) pointing its finger at BB.com saying its the forum's fault their child took DNP. ya know?
thats my $.02
P.S. Fritobandito you look like a beast lol
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Gabriella Amanda you will always be in my heart and worn on my chest. I love you more then you could ever imagine. I would of died over and over for you just to have been able to take 1 breath.
~ i love you ~
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08-08-2007, 09:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillipsGabe
The last thing we need is the Media/Parent(s) pointing its finger at BB.com saying its the forum's fault their child took DNP.
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Totally agree, it is much better to self police.
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08-08-2007, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritobandito
Personally I think at 300mg a day you would be fine taking it at night, but I have the same worries of dehydrating or overheating at night. They may be a little overblown because if I sweat enough at night to dangerously dehydrate me I think it would wake me up, same with the heat. I started this cycle at 500 a day and on the second week went to 750. I must say at 750 the sides are quite noticeable! I take one cap first thing in the AM, a second right around lunch and the third when I get home about 6ish.
Of course everyone is different as you well know so just be careful. Btw, I just caught up on your log and it was a good read. Keep up the good work.
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frito, can u elaborate on the sides at 750mgs
i just got done with 500 and it wasn too bad
i think the sharing of this info is much better than not talking about it at all
information is key
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08-08-2007, 09:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5x10
frito, can u elaborate on the sides at 750mgs
i just got done with 500 and it wasn too bad
i think the sharing of this info is much better than not talking about it at all
information is key
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**** dat, 600 was hell.
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08-08-2007, 10:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hoorah66
**** dat, 600 was hell.
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LOL 400 mgs was bad for me. Not horrible, just sooooooo much warmth, and some lethargy. And I only upped it to 400 at the end of my cycle, for the final 4 days.
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08-08-2007, 10:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake Austin
LOL 400 mgs was bad for me. Not horrible, just sooooooo much warmth, and some lethargy. And I only upped it to 400 at the end of my cycle, for the final 4 days.
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yeah, the lethargy creeps up on you
i didnt do anything while taking dnp, just sat around and sweat
i didnt realize how flat it made my muscles too
finally, after 10 days of stopping, they feel full again
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08-08-2007, 10:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5x10
yeah, the lethargy creeps up on you
i didnt do anything while taking dnp, just sat around and sweat
i didnt realize how flat it made my muscles too
finally, after 10 days of stopping, they feel full again
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You didn't work out while on?? Huh. I'm still doing the exact same routine in the gym as I did when I wasn't on DNP, weights 4x a week and cardio 5x a week.
The lethargy (as minor as it was), oddly enough, would only hit me at home, in the evenings, after working out. That's probably because I ran a 21 day low dose cycle.
And yeah, my muscles look like crap right now! Ugghhh. Soft and flat, not hard at all. They look waterlogged LOL. I still have veins in my arms, and some in my shoulders, but not as much as before I started this second cycle.
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08-08-2007, 11:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake Austin
You didn't work out while on?? Huh. I'm still doing the exact same routine in the gym as I did when I wasn't on DNP, weights 4x a week and cardio 5x a week.
The lethargy (as minor as it was), oddly enough, would only hit me at home, in the evenings, after working out. That's probably because I ran a 21 day low dose cycle.
And yeah, my muscles look like crap right now! Ugghhh. Soft and flat, not hard at all. They look waterlogged LOL. I still have veins in my arms, and some in my shoulders, but not as much as before I started this second cycle.
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i did on 200-300 for aorund 7-8 days, wasnt bad at all
i did one day at 400, could tell my muscles would burn alot quicker
and then 5 days on 500mgs i didnt
i didnt want to break down the muscle and not have the calories to replace it
the week after, my workouts were weak
i will do another one after my hormone levels are back in line
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08-08-2007, 12:05 PM
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Heat was the worse for me, it was that bad I started getting issues around my sweat glands like under the arms would be so sore because I just couldn't wash so much.
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08-08-2007, 12:19 PM
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Well the sides for me are the same as at 500 for the most part, just more intense. The sweating is light but constant...all day, all night. Not to bad for me since I sit at a desk and have a fan on me, but if I go outside or exert myself much it is like turning on a faucet. It has been easy to go to sleep if I don't eat to many carbs right before bed. Carbs=sweat and it is hard for me to fall asleep if I am soaking. A/C is on and I have a fan on me at night. Lack of energy is pronounced. I have lightened up my workout as there is no way I could train as intensely as I normally do. I dropped cardio alltogether but will resume it after I am finished with DNP. I have never lost any appreciable amount of muscle while on DNP, but my muscles do look flat while on it and that sometimes messes with my head. Carb cravings for sure so it is a nice time for me to indulge in fruit of all kinds. No muscle cramping, no muscle soreness, no rashes or any of the other things that you sometimes hear about.
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08-08-2007, 05:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillipsGabe
please delete your post, I'll private message you about it.
DNP is to strong of a substance and has to many things that can go wrong. The noobs on this site will read this and think of taking it.
like i said please delete your thread because we don't need anyone to die over losing fat. Which some have with the use of DNP without proper knowledge. and as you know everyone that wants to learn comes here. So respect the people that have died on this substance. and talk to me over PM only
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I got an idea, how about we talk about it, out in the open, exposing the facts and debunking the myths. All this rhetoric about DNP being too dangerous to even talk about is ridiculous. Yes, DNP has dangers. Let's talk about those. Yes, it has risks. We'll talk about those too. It needs to be used intelligently. We'll talk about how. There's nothing anyone needs to hide. Ignorance and propaganda doesn't help anyone.
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08-08-2007, 05:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillipsGabe
its just that the mod ctgblue PM'd me about me sharing info with a user. This user does have a better knowledge about it but i was just looking out. Like he told me. The last thing we need is the Media/Parent(s) pointing its finger at BB.com saying its the forum's fault their child took DNP. ya know?
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Oh, that mod is the fruitcake who deleted AolSux's DNP thread after I posted a bunch of clinical research that contradicted him. Then, after arguing through PMs, he banned me for two weeks. I'm a bb.com chat moderator and have never seen such a gross abuse of power. I immediately told Ryan about it. He doesn't like kiddie crap like that. Hopefully the mods here can all act like adults, preserving the facts about DNP rather than deleting them to protect their egos when they're wrong.
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08-08-2007, 05:40 PM
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I agree with conciliator on this one, and I think many people over-exagerate how dangerous it is.
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08-08-2007, 05:46 PM
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To the OP. You should be fine splitting up your dose any way you want. Do what's most comfortable. If you have a really hard time with lethargy and heat during the day, then take it all at night. If you have insomnia from the heat and sweating, then take it all in the morning. If neither are particularly bad, then split it morning/evening. And if the sides are excessive no matter how you split it up, then reduce your dosage.
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08-08-2007, 05:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by True Force
I agree with conciliator on this one, and I think many people over-exagerate how dangerous it is.
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The dangers are grossly overstated. On the flipside, bodybuilders routinely push the limits with the drug, using it unsafely.
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08-08-2007, 06:16 PM
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Too true, I have never had any major problems from using 750mg/day. I get some nice side effects like torrential sweating etc. But nothing I can't handle.
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08-08-2007, 11:30 PM
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I take one when I wake up, and one 6 hours later
mine's are 250 each
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08-09-2007, 04:12 AM
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Oh teh drama, its all kicking off now, lol :P
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08-09-2007, 06:26 AM
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Quote:
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I get some nice side effects like torrential sweating
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LMAO @ this description.
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08-09-2007, 07:42 AM
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hey all,
thanks to everyone for their advice and opinions. Sincerest apologies if this thread created any issues. In the future what should I do? Its hard to assume who has taken specific substances via facebook value....
Anyhooo thanks again.
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