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Muhammad the Pedophile (more reasons why Islam is false and so was Muhammad)
Here's more evidence towards Islam being a false religion.
The prophet married 6 year old Aisha when he was of 51 years of age. Then when Aisha was 9, he had sex with her.
Tell me a 50 year old man having sex with a 9 year old who had "maybe" hit puberty considering that not all girls hit puberty on their EXACT BIRTHDATE, isn't wrong.
He had intercourse with her and would continue so until he died. This means having sex with her from from ages 9 to 10 to 11 and so on, all of which count as a pedophile person.
There was no political reason behind this marriage as many would say for Muhammad's 13 wives when he HIMSELF set the limit at 4!
Some may say it is "quite common" in old times especially in Saudi Arabia for girls to marry that young, well is it really? A 9 year old can do nothing in a house, what use are they as a wife?
But Muhammad wanted sex from her, he was interested in f*cking a little girl who probably hadn't even hit puberty and even if she did, HE WAS SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO HER!
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Muhammad(saas) the messenger of God, had sexual intercourse with Aisha(ra) when she was 9 years old.
There is not much to say.
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Originally Posted by farzamk
Here's more evidence towards Islam being a false religion.
The prophet married 6 year old Aisha when he was of 51 years of age. Then when Aisha was 9, he had sex with her.
Tell me a 50 year old man having sex with a 9 year old who had "maybe" hit puberty considering that not all girls hit puberty on their EXACT BIRTHDATE, isn't wrong.
He had intercourse with her and would continue so until he died. This means having sex with her from from ages 9 to 10 to 11 and so on, all of which count as a pedophile person.
There was no political reason behind this marriage as many would say for Muhammad's 13 wives when he HIMSELF set the limit at 4!
Some may say it is "quite common" in old times especially in Saudi Arabia for girls to marry that young, well is it really? A 9 year old can do nothing in a house, what use are they as a wife?
But Muhammad wanted sex from her, he was interested in f*cking a little girl who probably hadn't even hit puberty and even if she did, HE WAS SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO HER!
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Yeah but you forget he had a big hairy mole on his back.
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08-07-2007, 01:42 PM
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How old do you think Mary was when Joseph married her?
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08-07-2007, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by EDC
How old do you think Mary was when Joseph married her?
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A teen.
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08-07-2007, 01:50 PM
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She wasn't younger than 15 I can tell you that...
Plus we can never know how old she was, for all we know they got married normally and Mary also did NOT give virgin birth. All false tales of the Bible...
This here with Aisha is preserved info. The point wasn't the marriage, it was sexual attraction to a 6 year old, then sex with a 9 year old. What prophet of god would have this??
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08-07-2007, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by farzamk
She wasn't younger than 15 I can tell you that...
Plus we can never know how old she was, for all we know they got married normally and Mary also did NOT give virgin birth. All false tales of the Bible...
This here with Aisha is preserved info. The point wasn't the marriage, it was sexual attraction to a 6 year old, then sex with a 9 year old. What prophet of god would have this??
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So you agree all hadiths are preserved information?
And reliable?
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08-07-2007, 01:57 PM
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A teen.
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Average age for a Jewish woman to be wed was 12 or 13. Joseph would have been in his twenties or possibly older. Probably not a good idea to be accusing other religion's figures of pedophilia.
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08-07-2007, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by farzamk
She wasn't younger than 15 I can tell you that...
Plus we can never know how old she was, for all we know they got married normally and Mary also did NOT give virgin birth. All false tales of the Bible...
This here with Aisha is preserved info. The point wasn't the marriage, it was sexual attraction to a 6 year old, then sex with a 9 year old. What prophet of god would have this??
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I thought the Qu'ran supported the virgin birth.
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08-07-2007, 02:09 PM
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I thought the Qu'ran supported the virgin birth.
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And that's what I don't believe. You can't have a baby without sperm... you need to open your eyes and face reality for once...
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08-07-2007, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by farzamk
Here's more evidence towards Islam being a false religion.
The prophet married 6 year old Aisha when he was of 51 years of age. Then when Aisha was 9, he had sex with her.
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Muhammad's act of consumating the marriage was not an act of pedophilia simply because Aisha had hit puberty.
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But Muhammad wanted sex from her, he was interested in f*cking a little girl who probably hadn't even hit puberty and even if she did, HE WAS SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO HER!
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What evidence do you support to demonstrate the veracity of such a claim?
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08-07-2007, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by EDC
Average age for a Jewish woman to be wed was 12 or 13. Joseph would have been in his twenties or possibly older. Probably not a good idea to be accusing other religion's figures of pedophilia.
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12 or 13 for thousands of years ago was pretty common and wasn't though of as pedophilia as the girl would have started puperty. Heck only a few hundred years ago people were getting married at the age of 12 etc and still in a few countries its legal for sexual intercourse. The age of consent is determined by the society of the time, not by religion or is a universal number.
However, 6 years old and 9 is considering pre-puberty and is true pedophilia. But if she had then it isnt, as there times.
"sexual attraction is toward prepubescent children."
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=X&sta..._Ac0ZpRh6y6G5g
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08-07-2007, 02:13 PM
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So that's why Islam is false.
Thanks for the clarification.
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08-07-2007, 02:13 PM
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farzamk you often attack Islam, what do you think of Christianity?
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08-07-2007, 02:30 PM
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12 or 13 for thousands of years ago was pretty common and wasn't though of as pedophilia as the girl would have started puperty. Heck only a few hundred years ago people were getting married at the age of 12 etc and still in a few countries its legal for sexual intercourse. The age of consent is determined by the society of the time, not by religion or is a universal number.
However, 6 years old and 9 is considering pre-puberty and is true pedophilia. But if she had then it isnt, as there times.
"sexual attraction is toward prepubescent children."
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=X&sta..._Ac0ZpRh6y6G5g
If you're going to judge the past based on the presents laws, then you have a flawed judgment.
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All I said was that applying our standards of what is appropriate to religion goes both ways.
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08-07-2007, 02:32 PM
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And that's what I don't believe. You can't have a baby without sperm... you need to open your eyes and face reality for once...
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Sorry I thought you were some religious guy, not the OP.
yeah I do not buy into the virgin birth thing either
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08-07-2007, 02:33 PM
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farzamk you often attack Islam, what do you think of Christianity?
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I see Christianity as another false religion like I see every religion. Humans became smart to develop their own religions, just one of the animals that we are happened to get smart by chance. Just like of all this space in the universe, ONE planet happens to have life type conditions and thus live develops through the process or abiogenesis and then evolution to where we are now. You will see evolution of our brains has helped us form religions more and more as time goes on if you study science.
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08-07-2007, 02:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EDC
Average age for a Jewish woman to be wed was 12 or 13. Joseph would have been in his twenties or possibly older. Probably not a good idea to be accusing other religion's figures of pedophilia.
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Actually if she was a teen it would've been Ephebophilia, not pedophilia.
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All I said was that applying our standards of what is appropriate to religion goes both ways.
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I know dont worry I wasnt attacking but stating if it is true she reached puberty then Muhammad did nothing wrong by his times but then again the age of nine, a female would still look like a child. Unlike 12 where the transformation has already begun.
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I know dont worry I wasnt attacking but stating if it is true she reached puberty then Muhammad did nothing wrong by his times but then again the age of nine, a female would still look like a child. Unlike 12 where the transformation has already begun.
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She wouldn't have been married unless she had already gone through puberty.
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Originally Posted by farzamk
Here's more evidence towards Islam being a false religion.
The prophet married 6 year old Aisha when he was of 51 years of age. Then when Aisha was 9, he had sex with her.
Tell me a 50 year old man having sex with a 9 year old who had "maybe" hit puberty considering that not all girls hit puberty on their EXACT BIRTHDATE, isn't wrong.
He had intercourse with her and would continue so until he died. This means having sex with her from from ages 9 to 10 to 11 and so on, all of which count as a pedophile person.
There was no political reason behind this marriage as many would say for Muhammad's 13 wives when he HIMSELF set the limit at 4!
Some may say it is "quite common" in old times especially in Saudi Arabia for girls to marry that young, well is it really? A 9 year old can do nothing in a house, what use are they as a wife?
But Muhammad wanted sex from her, he was interested in f*cking a little girl who probably hadn't even hit puberty and even if she did, HE WAS SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO HER!
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haha...
You post your "questions" once in the Islam thread and then the second time in the main forum. As I already mentioned, nothing you say is new to anyone (who has been around for awhile). So, you could either use the search engine to find how your "questions" have previously been thoroughly dealt with or you could continue to post repetitive posts and pretend as if you discovered something big and shocking about Islam.
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Muhammad(saas) the messenger of God, had sexual intercourse with Aisha(ra) when she was 9 years old.
There is not much to say.
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So, he's a pedophile then.
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08-07-2007, 09:57 PM
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Pedophilia/molestation involves:
1) Prepubescent people
2) Lack of consent
3) Clandestine encounters
4) Extramarital affair
NONE of that is applicable in the case of the Prophet (pbuh) and Ayesha (may God be pleased with her).
1) All parties were past the age of majority (puberty)
2) All parties consented to the marriage
3) The marriage was an open and celebrated thing
4) There were zero sexual encounters prior to marriage
And to top it off, it was a long term relationship, lasting until the Prophet (pbuh) passed away and Ayesha (may God be pleased with her) was 18.
So you fail on all counts.
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SK im sure you get asked this all the time, would you marry a 9 year old?
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Originally Posted by farzamk
She wasn't younger than 15 I can tell you that...
Plus we can never know how old she was, for all we know they got married normally and Mary also did NOT give virgin birth. All false tales of the Bible.
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But she did, absolutely. I don't know what you mean by "married normally", but she most definitely was "intact" until she birthed Messiah Jesus, after which we know she and Joe had an ordinary marital relationship. We know Jesus had at least four brother and three sisters who were the children of Mary and Joe born after the Anointed One.
The only "tale" is that told by those who wish the Bible were open to re-writing as you attempted to do above.
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Originally Posted by EDC
Average age for a Jewish woman to be wed was 12 or 13. Joseph would have been in his twenties or possibly older. Probably not a good idea to be accusing other religion's figures of pedophilia.
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That doesn't work, because the fact that she was pregnant by the Spirit of the Lord prior to being married to Joseph means she was not a child. So your words about "pedophilia" are false.
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08-07-2007, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Perspacitos
Muhammad's act of consumating the marriage was not an act of pedophilia simply because Aisha had hit puberty.
What evidence do you support to demonstrate the veracity of such a claim?
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do you think she changed that much physically between being 8 and a half and 9?
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SK im sure you get asked this all the time, would you marry a 9 year old?
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It's permissible if they are past the age of puberty, so I wouldn't say it's out of the question.
But my signature-worthy statement is that I would marry 4 of them just to spite you.
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It's permissible if they are past the age of puberty, so I wouldn't say it's out of the question.
But my signature-worthy statement is that I would marry 4 of them just to spite you.
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hahahahaha i understand you like em tight, you do know that there is grown women you cannot take a 6 inch dick, now just think of what kind of pain you would cause a 9 year old by stretching her vag
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things change over the millenia, as do standards. You should be calling every man back then a pedo.
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