How much time can I take off before I lose muscle?

1972girl · 08-06-2007, 12:29 PM

I now that there are other post about this but my search is not working so im just going to ask.How much time can I take of without losing muscle?I think its like 8 to 14 days but im not sure.

domineaux · 08-06-2007, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 1972girl

I now that there are other post about this but my search is not working so im just going to ask.How much time can I take of without losing muscle?I think its like 8 to 14 days but im not sure.

Take glutamine and protein shakes daily. They will maintain muscle.

gangster280 · 08-06-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 1972girl

I now that there are other post about this but my search is not working so im just going to ask.How much time can I take of without losing muscle?I think its like 8 to 14 days but im not sure.

I don't know for sure if your guess is accurate, but I have heard the same thing.

Carl123 · 08-07-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by domineaux

Take glutamine and protein shakes daily. They will maintain muscle.

Although many of us have been taking l-glutamine for its purported muscle related benefits, a recent issue of Current Sports Medicine Reports reviews studies purporting that glutamine assists in the development of greater strength, recovery and other positive effects on athletic ability but found insufficient evidence to definitively support the alledged positive effects from this amino acid.

http://www.current-reports.com/artic...&Type=Abstract

AFGymRat · 08-07-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 1972girl

I now that there are other post about this but my search is not working so im just going to ask.How much time can I take of without losing muscle?I think its like 8 to 14 days but im not sure.

I think there are several factors that has to do with losing muscle. The amount of time it takes to start losing muscle is depending on your metabolism, body type, what your diet consists of including supplements. Personally the mirror is my judge, but usually for me it's about 7 days and then I know I need to get my but back in the weight room.

dbx · 08-07-2007, 08:51 PM

This whole forum has gone to hell....with the thread questions...and answers alike.

farsscf · 08-07-2007, 08:52 PM

lol

Todd_A · 08-07-2007, 09:11 PM

I think this month in Men's Fitness they have an article that talks about this. They said you can go like 6 weeks without lifting and not loose significant muscle size or strength, but they also said you should do other physical activities and that along with diet should allow you to keep most of what you have built for about that long.

I have serious doubts about going that long without lifting and still coming anywhere close to being as strong as before. I can go 2 weeks without benching and I will be down enough to notice. That is why it sucks that I pull some stuff in my back and neck last week - I was supposed to have back night tonight and, even though it feels tons better, I know if I push it and lift, I will possibly be worse off than I was last week!

It would be nice to be able to take a break for a month and not have to work out and be able to maintain everything though! With all the overtime my company wants me to work right now it is a mental challenge daily to stop and go work out instead of staying for the extra money. blah!

AFGymRat · 08-07-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dbx

This whole forum has gone to hell....with the thread questions...and answers alike.

Intelligent answer, good going.

lukamar · 08-07-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dbx

This whole forum has gone to hell....with the thread questions...and answers alike.

X2

domineaux · 08-07-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl123

Although many of us have been taking l-glutamine for its purported muscle related benefits, a recent issue of Current Sports Medicine Reports reviews studies purporting that glutamine assists in the development of greater strength, recovery and other positive effects on athletic ability but found insufficient evidence to definitively support the alledged positive effects from this amino acid.

http://www.current-reports.com/artic...&Type=Abstract

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http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/glutamine.html

Glutamine Info And Products
Build More Muscle In Less Time

1. What is it and where does it come from?

The extremely popular amino acid L-Glutamine can be found in protein powders, beans, meats, fish, poultry, dairy products, and of course, L-Glutamine supplements from Bodybuilding.com.

2. What does it do and what scientific studies give evidence to support this?

Glutamine is highly in demand throughout the body. It is used in the gut and immune system extensively to maintain optimal performance. 60% of free-form amino acids floating in skeletal muscles is L-glutamine. L-glutamine plays a very important role in protein metabolism, and it appears to be a very important nutrient for body builders. When supplemented, it may help body builders reduce the amount of muscle deterioration that occurs because other tissues that need glutamine will not rob the glutamine stored in the muscle cells.

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Carl123 - My response was to give an answer to the question of the original poster. Your response was to discredit what I said. You would do well to try to help, rather than try to annoy people.

**fitnessman** · 08-08-2007, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dbx

This whole forum has gone to hell....with the thread questions...and answers alike.

Kevin! I shocked at this response from you!

Everyone know after 14 days of no weight training all muscle is lost unless you main line Glutamine

Tyrbolift · 08-08-2007, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fitnessman

Kevin! I shocked at this response from you!

Everyone know after 14 days of no weight training all muscle is lost unless you main line Glutamine

Not if you take creatine. It makes ur body make roids!

Mr. Someday · 08-08-2007, 05:46 AM

Damn.....8 to 14 days? I must be shriveling up then as I am taking a forced two week break with no gym time.

Reality_Check · 08-08-2007, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 1972girl

I now that there are other post about this but my search is not working so im just going to ask.How much time can I take of without losing muscle?I think its like 8 to 14 days but im not sure.

I'd agree with that roughly (based purely on my person experience as opposed to scientific studies).

Jules Verne · 08-08-2007, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fitnessman

Everyone know after 14 days of no weight training all muscle is lost unless you main line Glutamine

I should try the glutamine coz I start to lose muscle after 2 days and 38 seconds, so that would definitely be a significant improvement.

Where can I get glutamine? I searched like forever and found nothing. Is it legal? What about CEE? I've heard it's like creatine but without the androgenic sides?

Sorry.....

Reality_Check · 08-08-2007, 05:57 AM

Would add that that assumes you are not dieting but are well alimentated.
Speaking of which I won't be back in the gym till this weekend at which time I will have had a fortnights break myself (normaly I work out once a week). I know I won't loose anything performance wise though. Its only when I have 2 fortnight breaks in a row that my performance goes down (as in fortnights break, workout, fortnights break), even then though the loss is isn't anything I can't make up quickly. (Annoyed at the fortnights break I just had cause it means I won't be gaining but I'll have survided it OK).

muttytwist · 08-08-2007, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Someday

Damn.....8 to 14 days? I must be shriveling up then as I am taking a forced two week break with no gym time.

down to an anerexic 240?lol

Carl123 · 08-08-2007, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by domineaux

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http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/glutamine.html

Glutamine Info And Products
Build More Muscle In Less Time

1. What is it and where does it come from?

The extremely popular amino acid L-Glutamine can be found in protein powders, beans, meats, fish, poultry, dairy products, and of course, L-Glutamine supplements from Bodybuilding.com.

2. What does it do and what scientific studies give evidence to support this?

Glutamine is highly in demand throughout the body. It is used in the gut and immune system extensively to maintain optimal performance. 60% of free-form amino acids floating in skeletal muscles is L-glutamine. L-glutamine plays a very important role in protein metabolism, and it appears to be a very important nutrient for body builders. When supplemented, it may help body builders reduce the amount of muscle deterioration that occurs because other tissues that need glutamine will not rob the glutamine stored in the muscle cells.

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Carl123 - My response was to give an answer to the question of the original poster. Your response was to discredit what I said. You would do well to try to help, rather than try to annoy people.

Domineaux- This is an open forum, not Domineaux's private blog, where posters present divergent information, perspectives and opinions whether they agree or not. In addition posters are interested in obtaining different perspectives and ACCURATE, FACTUAL information regarding topics of interest. That is why they post their questions. In fact, my response was not a "discredit to what you said" BUT was directed specifically to the issue of the effectiveness of glutamine and had nothing to do with you personally! So let us stick to the topic not our egos.

The bottomline is that glutamine has not been demonstrated by clinical studies to produce the muscle enhancing effects that I and a number of other BBs have believed it did. If you wish to see the studies I will present them for all to review.

Carl123 · 08-08-2007, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dbx

This whole forum has gone to hell....with the thread questions...and answers alike.

We know one thing about your posts that they are excellent at putting down other posters. So let us review your posts, questions and answers and discuss your level of contribution to this forum that has made it more interesting and valuable or whether it has contributed to it "going to hell"!

Husky Bob · 08-08-2007, 06:27 AM

I have a minor ache in my shoulder, probably from a combo of lifting and playing tennis. I'm not sure if it's a delt muscle per se, or the rotator cuff.

So... I plan on taking 3 or 4 weeks off and not do upper body workouts, but still do the usual leg lifting, cardio on the cycle, and runnning.

The biggest concern I have is:

Will this rest help relieve/eliminate the ache I have in my shoulder?

I've tried to work around it to no avail. It's fairly minor I would say, but I don't want it to get worse and eventually lead to SURGERY!!

Once I get back into upper body lifts, I will be more diligent in doing specific rotator cuff exercises as a preventitive measure.

Thanks, Bob

Mr. Someday · 08-08-2007, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Carl123

We know one thing about your posts that they are excellent at putting down other posters. So let us review your posts, questions and answers and discuss your level of contribution to this forum that has made it more interesting and valuable or whether it has contributed to it "going to hell"!

Who let this guy out of Banned Camp?

Carl123 · 08-08-2007, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by farsscf

lol

Now this is an excellent example of a post that has added to the value of this forum. LMAO

Carl123 · 08-08-2007, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Someday

Who let this guy out of Banned Camp?

Another great post that adds something of value to this topic! LMAO

Jules Verne · 08-08-2007, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Carl123

Another great post that adds something of value to this topic! LMAO

OK, well if you really want to keep repeating stuff fine, but how about an in-depth summary article on muscle protein turnover for the OP that's a bit different than all the other info out there?

I'd be interested in reading another good summary article/paper on this topic with some references I could get my hands on (i.e. freely available)?

Might add sections on muscle types, stimulation, nutrition, supplements (including steroids and perhaps a section on natural hormone levels and influence on muscle) and training styles while you are at it.

Arlecchino · 08-08-2007, 07:51 AM

A few studies have shown under certain conditions, glutamine may have an anti-catabolic effect.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...RVAbstractPlus

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...RVAbstractPlus

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...RVAbstractPlus

While none of these studies support the role of glutamine as an anabolic agent, they do support its use as an anti-catabolic, which I believe was the concern of the OP.

Given the relatively low cost of glutamine, as well as its other nutritional benefits, I can see quite a few reasons to continue its use, and few, if any to discontinue said usage.

1972girl · 08-08-2007, 08:09 AM

So no one really knows? Im going to go with 8 to 14 days to start losing it and 4 to 6 weeks to notice.

Arlecchino · 08-08-2007, 08:12 AM

Really depends on the individual, in my experience. I can go a fair amount of time and not drop any muscle. However, the lack of exercise makes it easier for me to gain fat.

farsscf · 08-08-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Carl123

Now this is an excellent example of a post that has added to the value of this forum. LMAO

Why do you feel the need to argue or annoy everyone here? This is an open forum, not Carl's science class, if you don't like a post ignore it. Stop commenting on every post in here.

Jules Verne · 08-08-2007, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1972girl

So no one really knows? Im going to go with 8 to 14 days to start losing it and 4 to 6 weeks to notice.

Yes we do. You are losing muscle right now.

No-one can tell you when YOU will go into a net muscle loss (which will vary during every day) or when YOU will notice it.

You can not lift at all and still gain muscle. You'll just gain fat too.